The Laws of the Universe

[Jazer]

Meanwhile, let's all go read a bronze age storybook that's well over 3000 years old.

If your interested in history then why not read it? The Bible talks about "bronze" so you have a written record of how they were using bronze and other metals back then. That is as good or prehaps better then what you can dig up out of the ground.

That's why those crusaders, may God bless their souls, burned down the Alexandrian library. All that evidence-based knowledge. Can't be having with that!

The library was sold to pay for war debt long before the crusaders came along. A lot of it ended up in monasteries for safe keeping. Even today there are people working to put the old books out on the internet to make them available to everyone.

 

[Nabobalis]

Meanwhile, let's all go read a bronze age storybook that's well over 3000 years old.

Everyone knows available evidence is inversely proportionate to the knowledge of a society.

That's why those crusaders, may God bless their souls, burned down the Alexandrian library. All that evidence-based knowledge. Can't be having with that!

Now, then, I'ma go find some witches to kill, and after I might take a holiday inside the belly of a whale that's actually a fish.

Witch burning, now that is a hobby I can get behind!

*graps pitchfork*

 

[mzungu]

Witch burning, now that is a hobby I can get behind!

*graps pitchfork*

Join the club "She turned me into a Newt..............Got better.....":
YouTube - ‪monty python-witch scene‬‏

 

[sandwiches]

Lie. You have not provide any.

We have evidence that has been provided multiple times. You have luke warm air coming out your mouth.

I just calls 'em like I sees 'em, chief.

 

[sandwiches]

Oh no, the horror in revising ideas when new evidence comes to light, won't someone please think of the children?!

Where dogma thrives, progress withers...

 

[Hespera]

Where dogma thrives, progress withers...

thsts why them dirty dogmatic scientists never make any progress.

 

[dad]

We have evidence that has been provided multiple times. .

Lie, as any lurker will know.

 

[dad]

That's right. We make an assumption, and then we go to see if reality fits in with that assumption. If reality agrees with the assumption, then we say, "Hey, this could be right!" The more things in reality support the assumption, the more we are convinced that the assumption is, in fact, how reality really is.

You see if an imagined same state past would fit. Meaningless. You have no real clue.

But if reality does NOT agree with the assumtion, then we toss the assumption away. it doesn't work, and it's easy to change our point of view than it is to change reality.

Toss anything away that doesn't fit with thee present? Told ya.

Ah, but he's right. You HAVE failed to show us any reason to believe your claims. Your claims have no merit, and no reason to accept them. You have failed. All you;ve ever provided is the weak old "Well, you can't prove I'm wrong," excuse, even though you have been proven wrong many times.

My ideas have ALL evidence agreeing and ALL bible and history agreeing. Yours have zero.

We do have evidence. Your ignorance of and refusal to look at that evidence does not remove it, nor does it invalidate that evidence.

Lie.

of course, if you reject a same-state past and an old universe, then you must also reject the findings of those scientists, because they assume a same state past and an ancient universe.

No. Any findings agree with a different state. If they also fit a same state past, then we are talking belief.

Of course, it's typical of you to accept things or dismiss things based on whether they agree with you instead of on their actual merit.

No. Either they have merit or are same state religion.

And the fact that science doesn't presently have the answers doesn't equate to you being right.

Not that they'd know, having no answers! Thanks for that.

It just means that science doesn't have all the answers yet.

Amen. So move one.

 

[dad]

If scientists keep doubting themselves like this, then we have every reason to doubt scientists too.

They have no confidence in their own ideas, so why should we.

Those of us that are honest and sane should not.

 

[dad]

Why are you assuming we live in your reality, where the moon contained a Caribbean-sized volume of water? The news is bad for your "same reality" fables and ridiculous assumptions. Why can't you get this truly simple piece of information into your head?

So you deny the moon water? Oh...sorry, the article was before last Thursday.

 

[Ar Cosc]

So you deny the moon water? Oh...sorry, the article was before last Thursday.

Of course not, it just only exists in your reality, not mine. You're assuming I live in the same reality as you, which is ridiculous.

 

[mzungu]

The moon does contain water but in the form of ICE. This came to be on the moon from comets that impacted the moon. Water is abundant in the solar system albeit in the form of ICE!

 

[Biker Angel]

This thread has been an interesting read so far, but I still don't know who is right, Tiberious or Dad. New information in the physics world may help answer these questions.

 

[mzungu]

This thread has been an interesting read so far, but I still don't know who is right, Tiberious or Dad. New information in the physics world may help answer these questions.

No need! Dad uses cartoon physics to make up whatever suits his claims. So your choice is between:

Tiberius who uses Physics.
&
DAD who makes things up!

Your call!

 

[dad]

Of course not, it just only exists in your reality, not mine. You're assuming I live in the same reality as you, which is ridiculous.

So nothing is real?

 

[dad]

This thread has been an interesting read so far, but I still don't know who is right, Tiberious or Dad. New information in the physics world may help answer these questions.

I am

 

[dad]

The moon does contain water but in the form of ICE. This came to be on the moon from comets that impacted the moon. Water is abundant in the solar system albeit in the form of ICE!

Now it would be ice....before the nature change, as half a planetful may have escaped earth...no, it would be water I would think. How long would a 'drop' of water as big as a lake, say, leaving earth, take to reach the moon? Even with our present space, how long would it take to freeze? Now, if some water and stuff never impacted a physical body for a long time, maybe we could talk about a big blob of 'ice'

 

[Ar Cosc]

So nothing is real?

No, on the contrary, everything is real, just not everything in each reality is real.

 

[Nathan Poe]

So nothing is real?

That's your world, not ours.

 

[AV1611VET]

This thread has been an interesting read so far, but I still don't know who is right, Tiberious or Dad. New information in the physics world may help answer these questions.

Why not let God break the tie?

Read your Bible and see if It doesn't convince you that things were much different in the past than today; e.g., in the area of longevity.