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you got 1000 years in between the 2nd coming and the end of this creation.


So you think the resurrection of the dead and the Last Saints
being "changed in a twinkling of an eye" happens 1000 before
the end of this creation?

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Here is the BOTTOM LINE:
The Last Saints preach about these things
during the "Season and Time" on earth
AFTER the Revelation Beast is destroyed
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".
This is information that remained "closed-up"
and "sealed" to all previous Saints. But the
Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand"
these Biblical mysteries [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
and the Lord PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see"
the fulfillment of ALL Great Tribulation prophecies
("signs") [Mat 24:15 and 24:33]... AND these
Last Saints would PREACH these mysteries
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound"
[Rev 10:7-11]

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Mat 25:10
And while they [foolish virgins] went to buy,
the bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that were ready
[the wise virgins] went in with him to the marriage:
and the door was shut.

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

---------------

In Revelation 18

the destruction of the Fourth Kingdom is shown [v.2]
as "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints, immediately before the destruction of Babylon,
is shown [v.4] as the Lord Commands the Last Saints
to "Come out of her, My people". And Saints are told
[v.20] to "rejoice" over the destruction of Babylon
for "God hath avenged you on her".

--------------------------

In Revelation 19
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.20] as the
False Prophet and Revelations Beast are "cast alive"
into the eternal "Lake-of-Fire". The "Final Harvest"
immediately before destruction of the "great harlot"
[v.2] is shown as the Saints are commanded [v.17]
to "gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER of
the Great God". Then again [v.9] the "Final Harvest"
is shown when the Saints are "called unto the
MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb". And once more
we see [v.2] that, when God destroys the Kingdom
of "Babylon the Great", He also "hath avenged the
blood of His servants".

------------------------------

In Revelation 11
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.13] as a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud". Again the "Final Harvest" is shown occurring
immediately before destruction of the Fourth Beast.
However, this time, the Bible reveals [v.14] the TIME
for fulfillment of this event - just before the end of
the "Second Woe"... that is important.

---------------------------------------

In Daniel 7
the destruction of the Fourth Beast is shown [v.11]
when "the Beast was slain, and his body destroyed,
and given to the Burning Flame". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints is shown [v.18] as "the Saints of the Most High
shall take the Kingdom, and possess the Kingdom forever,
even for ever and ever". Again, the "Final Harvest"
of the Great Tribulation Saints is shown [v.22] when
"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the
[eternal] Kingdom".

-------------------------------------------

Again, the POINT is the Bible gives MANY different
perspectives of the SAME people/events and these
all must be harmonized before anyone can claim to
have found more than partial-truth. In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom and God
never intended Saints in the Christian Kingdom to
understand the Great Tribulation "kings/horns/virgins"
of the Revelation Beast or the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER the Beast was destroyed and the
"wise virgins" were commanded to "Come up hither".

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"Babylon the Great"
being fulfilled throughout Daniel's Four Beasts and ENDING with
the Fourth Beast... which is the SAME as the Revelation Beast and
the SAME as the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the
SAME as experiences of the "ten virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom.

So, is Babylon fallen? Or is the Judgement of the wise virgins one and the same...and is this where we are now?

FIRST Judges the
"wise virgins"

We're here?
 
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a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud".

Cloudborne once again...

In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom

So, is the fall of Babylon the end of Judaism?
 
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you got 1000 years in between the 2nd coming and the end of this creation.


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So you think there is 1000 years on earth AFTER the
Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"?

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Are you aware that Jesus specifically NAMED
four separate and distinct "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth?

In Mat 22:2 Jesus specifically NAMED the Jewish
"Kingdom of Heaven".

In Mat 13 (in 8 verses) Jesus specifically NAMES
the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven".

In Mat 25:1 Jesus specifically NAMES the
Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"

Now, I realize this is NEW INFORMATION to most
but please TEST this by seeing who the CONTEXT
of each of these passages represents...
WHO is the subject of the passage?

In Matthew 22:2 the context is the Jewish Kingdom
In Matthew 13 the context is the Christian Kingdom
In Matthew 25:1-13 the context is the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom"

And, of course, Jesus specifically NAMES the
Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" in Matthew chapters
5 and 7 and 8 and 19.

While the previous "Kingdoms of Heaven" were
(1) temporal
(2) contained BOTH saved and unsaved

The (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" is not temporal
and contains saints from EACH of the previous Kingdoms.
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are included [Mat 8:11] when
they were NOT included in the Christian Kingdom or the
Great Tribulation Kingdom.

For those who have not studied this issue carefully
there is a tendency to think there is no difference
between the "Kingdoms of Heaven" and the
one (1) "Kingdom of God".

The difference is explained below.

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The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

-------------------------------------------------------------

The four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are physical and temporal
Kingdoms... and there's a "harvest" of Saints at the end of
each, with the "Final Harvest" including only the "Wise Virgins"
living during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1]

---------------------------------------------------------

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God
and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", not the unsaved "tares".

---------------------------------

Therefore, the Bible can use the phrases interchangeably
when it focuses only on the "wheat" within the Kingdom.
When focused only on the "wheat", the Bible can use
"Kingdom of Heaven" OR "Kingdom of God". And that
is why we have several parallel passages in the Bible
that can (and do) interchange these two phrases.


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Uh oh, I'm wondering...


You said:
Really, John was the head?



No... there were FOUR "heads" to the Fourth Beast
or the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven". John was the LAST
"head" when Revelation was written.


Five "heads/kings" were fallen:
One from the (1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom of Heaven"
One from the (2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
Three from the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
The LAST "head/king" was the Anti-Christ of the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"


John was the FOURTH of three "heads/kings"
of the Christian Kingdom:


Gal_2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John,
who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was
given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right
hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen,
and they unto the circumcision.


You said:
What specifically is so wrong with this? (Arminianism)



From a Reformed or Traditional Protestant theology,
Arminianism is a FALSE GOSPEL (as was Semi-Pelagianism)
because God is not Sovereign... salvation is a combination
of the Grace of God and the "works" of men.

If man has to say a "sinner's prayer" or make an alter call,
or be water baptized, or "trust" or "believe" or "accept"
Jesus (before regeneration) than salvation is the result
of God's Grace PLUS the "works" of man.

A Reformed or Traditional Protestant Gospel would say
that only those "ordained" believe... only those "chosen"
are saved... only those "elected" receive eternal life.

Of course this means a "particular Atonement" instead
of a "universal Atonement".

Only one (at best) can be the True Gospel and the other
must be a false gospel or heresy.

Gal 1:8-9
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again,
If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye
have received, let him be accursed.


You said:
Is this Rome?


No...

(1st) Pre-Flood "Kingdom"
(2nd) Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 22:2]
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 13... 8 verses]
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1]
(5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 5, 7, 8, 19]

Daniel 7:11-12... which is the SAME EVENT as Rev 19:20
shows each Kingdom is a spiritual Kingdom because NO GOSPEL
teaches men/governments of the first THREE Kingdoms
continue to exist on earth for a "Season and Time"
AFTER the (people living in the) Fourth Kingdom
are "cast alive into the Lake of Fire"

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So, is Babylon fallen? Or is the Judgement of the wise virgins one and the same...and is this where we are now?


Yes, Babylon has fallen.
Judgment on the last "wheat and tares" was the BEGINNING
of God's Judgment:

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The CONTEXT of 1 Peter 4:17
------------------------------------

For the time is come that Judgment must BEGIN at
the House of God [both the "wheat and Tares"]:
and if it [God's Judgment] FIRST begin with us
[begins with the saved "wheat"], what shall the end be
of them that obey not the Gospel of God [the unsaved "tares"]

18 And if the righteous [the saved "wheat"]
scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and
the sinner [the unsaved "tares"] appear?

-------------------------

The purpose of Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"
was to (first) bring Judgment on the "Wise Virgins",
or all the living Saints. This is shown in 1 Peter 4 as
being both the "us" [in verse 17] and then as
"the righteous" [in verse 18]. Then, after Judgment
on the Saints is finished, God separates the
"wheat and tares" and brings Judgment on the
"Anti-Christ" and "Foolish Virgins" (the Beast)...

which are represented by "them that obey not
the Gospel of God
" [in verse 17] and then by
"the ungodly and and the sinner" [in verse 18].

--------------------------

You must remember that "Babylon" represented
Satan's Kingdom in EACH of the four temporal
"Kingdoms of Heaven" on earth. When the
Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" was finished then
"Babylon the Great" was finished.

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So, is Babylon fallen? Or is the Judgement of the wise virgins one and the same...and is this where we are now? We're here?


Yes, Babylon has fallen.
We are now in the time when the Last Saints "prophecy again"
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound". [Rev 10:7-11]
This is AFTER the "Final Harvest"

------------------------------------------

Here is the BOTTOM LINE:
The Last Saints preach about these things
during the "Season and Time" on earth
AFTER the Revelation Beast is destroyed
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".
This is information that remained "closed-up"
and "sealed" to all previous Saints. But the
Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand"
these Biblical mysteries [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
and the Lord PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see"
the fulfillment of ALL Great Tribulation prophecies
("signs") [Mat 24:15 and 24:33]... AND these
Last Saints would PREACH these mysteries
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound"
[Rev 10:7-11]

---------------------------

Mat 25:10
And while they [foolish virgins] went to buy,
the bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that were ready
[the wise virgins] went in with him to the marriage:
and the door was shut.

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

---------------

In Revelation 18

the destruction of the Fourth Kingdom is shown [v.2]
as "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints, immediately before the destruction of Babylon,
is shown [v.4] as the Lord Commands the Last Saints
to "Come out of her, My people". And Saints are told
[v.20] to "rejoice" over the destruction of Babylon
for "God hath avenged you on her".

--------------------------

In Revelation 19
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.20] as the
False Prophet and Revelations Beast are "cast alive"
into the eternal "Lake-of-Fire". The "Final Harvest"
immediately before destruction of the "great harlot"
[v.2] is shown as the Saints are commanded [v.17]
to "gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER of
the Great God". Then again [v.9] the "Final Harvest"
is shown when the Saints are "called unto the
MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb". And once more
we see [v.2] that, when God destroys the Kingdom
of "Babylon the Great", He also "hath avenged the
blood of His servants".

------------------------------

In Revelation 11
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.13] as a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud". Again the "Final Harvest" is shown occurring
immediately before destruction of the Fourth Beast.
However, this time, the Bible reveals [v.14] the TIME
for fulfillment of this event - just before the end of
the "Second Woe"... that is important.

---------------------------------------

In Daniel 7
the destruction of the Fourth Beast is shown [v.11]
when "the Beast was slain, and his body destroyed,
and given to the Burning Flame". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints is shown [v.18] as "the Saints of the Most High
shall take the Kingdom, and possess the Kingdom forever,
even for ever and ever". Again, the "Final Harvest"
of the Great Tribulation Saints is shown [v.22] when
"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the
[eternal] Kingdom".

-------------------------------------------

Again, the POINT is the Bible gives MANY different
perspectives of the SAME people/events and these
all must be harmonized before anyone can claim to
have found more than partial-truth. In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom and God
never intended Saints in the Christian Kingdom to
understand the Great Tribulation "kings/horns/virgins"
of the Revelation Beast or the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER the Beast was destroyed and the
"wise virgins" were commanded to "Come up hither".

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was the Anti-Christ of the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"

"Was"...so, already past?

Yes, Babylon has fallen

So, what did you do to come out of her?

God separates the
"wheat and tares"

Is this what is happening now?

When the
Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" was finished then
"Babylon the Great" was finished.

How long ago and how can you describe it in layman's terms, did this happen?
 
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So, is the fall of Babylon the end of Judaism?


No, the end of the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" is shown
in Mat 22:2 and it is shown here:


Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God
shall be taken from you [the Jews], and given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof. [the Christians]

Mat 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard
his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.



The fall of "Babylon the Great" occurred just before the END
of the Second Woe (or Sixth Trumpet) when the Fourth
"Kingdom of Heaven" was destroyed.

The "Kingdom of Babylon" represents Satan's Kingdom
throughout the FOUR (temporal) "Kingdoms of Heaven"
on earth... which Daniel calls the Four Beasts/Kingdoms.

Satan's Kingdom (Beast) existed in the Pre-Flood Kingdom
and in the Jewish Kingdom and in the Christian Kingdom and
in the Great Tribulation Kingdom (aka the Revelation Beast)

When the FOURTH KINGDOM is destroyed, then "Babylon"
is destroyed.

See the verses quoted in the post BEFORE this post...
in post #127

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the Revelation Beast is destroyed

How so, will you describe it so I can understand?

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

So, is the door shut now?

"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the
[eternal] Kingdom"

Do you possess the Kingdom right now? Are you reigning from behind a closed door?
 
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Can you find ONE VERSE in the Bible that contradict
ANYTHING said here? Send Chapter and verse please:

And God said,

"All of the son's of Adam will have opinions, just as all will have Belly Buttons!"
 
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How so, will you describe it so I can understand?

The Revelation Beast = Daniel's Fourth Beast = the Great
Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" = the reign of the Anti-Christ
during Satan's "Little Season" = the experiences of the
"ten virgins" [Mat 25] and the ten "kings/horns"
[Dan 7 and Rev 17] and the ten "horns" of Dan 2:44

When the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" ended
(at the end of the Second Woe... see Rev 11:14]
then Babylon was fallen.


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Do you possess the Kingdom right now? Are you reigning from behind a closed door?


When the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" is destroyed
the Last Saints "possess the (5th) kingdom"
That is clear in Daniel 7


In Daniel 7
the destruction of the Fourth Beast is shown [v.11]
when "the Beast was slain, and his body destroyed,
and given to the Burning Flame
". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints is shown [v.18] as "the Saints of the Most High
shall take the Kingdom, and possess the Kingdom forever,
even for ever and ever
". Again, the "Final Harvest"
of the Great Tribulation Saints is shown [v.22] when
"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the
[eternal] Kingdom
".



Dan 7:26
But the judgment [of God] shall sit [rule], and
they [the Last Saints] shall take away his ["Little Horn's"]
dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
[unto the end = remember there is a period of time
AFTER Rev 19:20 and BEFORE Rev 20:10]



As I have ALREADY SHOWN YOU... this EVENT is shown
in several different passages:

---------------------------

Mat 25:10
And while they [foolish virgins] went to buy,
the bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that were ready
[the wise virgins] went in with him to the marriage:
and the door was shut.

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

---------------

In Revelation 18

the destruction of the Fourth Kingdom is shown [v.2]
as "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints, immediately before the destruction of Babylon,
is shown [v.4] as the Lord Commands the Last Saints
to "Come out of her, My people". And Saints are told
[v.20] to "rejoice" over the destruction of Babylon
for "God hath avenged you on her".

--------------------------

In Revelation 19
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.20] as the
False Prophet and Revelations Beast are "cast alive"
into the eternal "Lake-of-Fire". The "Final Harvest"
immediately before destruction of the "great harlot"
[v.2] is shown as the Saints are commanded [v.17]
to "gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER of
the Great God". Then again [v.9] the "Final Harvest"
is shown when the Saints are "called unto the
MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb". And once more
we see [v.2] that, when God destroys the Kingdom
of "Babylon the Great", He also "hath avenged the
blood of His servants".

------------------------------

In Revelation 11
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.13] as a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud". Again the "Final Harvest" is shown occurring
immediately before destruction of the Fourth Beast.
However, this time, the Bible reveals [v.14] the TIME
for fulfillment of this event - just before the end of
the "Second Woe"... that is important.

---------------------------------------

Again, the POINT is the Bible gives MANY different
perspectives of the SAME people/events and these
all must be harmonized before anyone can claim to
have found more than partial-truth. In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom and God
never intended Saints in the Christian Kingdom to
understand the Great Tribulation "kings/horns/virgins"
of the Revelation Beast or the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER the Beast was destroyed and the
"wise virgins" were commanded to "Come up hither".

--------------------------------------------

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The Revelation Beast = Daniel's Fourth Beast = the Great
Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" = the reign of the Anti-Christ
during Satan's "Little Season" = the experiences of the
"ten virgins" [Mat 25] and the ten "kings/horns"
[Dan 7 and Rev 17] and the ten "horns" of Dan 2:44

When the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" ended
(at the end of the Second Woe... see Rev 11:14]
then Babylon was fallen.


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What occurred historically...like the Reformation or the rise of Armenianism...or what?
 
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As I have ALREADY SHOWN YOU... this EVENT is shown
in several different passages


TRANSLATE IT INTO TODAY'S TERMS, SHOWING WHAT IS WHAT IN THE WORLD AROUND ME!!!!!!!!!








*Please...thank you.
 
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Do you possess the Kingdom right now? Are you reigning from behind a closed door?


Remember... you have to be able to DEFINE what "the kingdom"
represents in history. It's the (4th) Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1-13]


The "Kingdom" is the Revelation Beast or Daniel's Fourth Beast.
You cannot hope to understand the MEANING of any Bible passage
when you cannot even DEFINE the CONTEXT of that passage.


In this case the "Kingdom" is EXCLUSIVE to the PEOPLE
who "went forth" from the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
ass we went into the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".


The Jewish "Kingdom" was SEPARATE from the Christian.
The Christian "Kingdom" was SEPARATE from the Great Tribulation
The Great Tribulation "Kingdom" was SEPARATE from the period
called the "Season and Time" before the Seventh Trumpet.


Again... EACH of the passages below show the "Final Harvest"
FROM the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" and the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER that Final Harvest.

Always REMEMBER you have to deal with the period of time
AFTER the 2nd Woe... but BEFORE the 3rd Woe [Rev 11:14]

And REMEMBER you have to deal with the period of time
AFTER Rev 19:20.... but BEFORE Rev 20:10

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(1) First God brings Judgment on "the House of God"

(2) The Last Saints (wise virgins of Mat 25:1-13)
are Judged during the First Beast/First Woe

(3) The Last of the unsaved "tares" (foolish virgins)
are Judged during the Second Beast/Second Woe

(4) The Last Saints are called to "Come-up Here"
BEFORE the Second Woe is finished (important)

(5) God brings Judgment on those OUTSIDE of
"the House of God" (Satan and the world)

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While there are MANY passages that talk about
the EVENTS occurring AFTER the end of the
Great Commission of the Christian "Kingdom"
and MANY passages about the Fourth Kingdom
ruled by the ten "kings/horns/virgins" that all
"agree to give their Kingdom to the Beast"...
there are FEW passages about Judgment on
those OUTSIDE of the "House of God".

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Here is the BOTTOM LINE:
The Last Saints preach about these things
during the "Season and Time" on earth
AFTER the Revelation Beast is destroyed
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".
This is information that remained "closed-up"
and "sealed" to all previous Saints. But the
Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand"
these Biblical mysteries [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
and the Lord PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see"
the fulfillment of ALL Great Tribulation prophecies
("signs") [Mat 24:15 and 24:33]... AND these
Last Saints would PREACH these mysteries
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound"
[Rev 10:7-11]

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In Mat 25:10
And while they [foolish virgins] went to buy,
the bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that were ready
[the wise virgins] went in with him to the marriage:
and the door was shut.

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

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In Revelation 18

the destruction of the Fourth Kingdom is shown [v.2]
as "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints, immediately before the destruction of Babylon,
is shown [v.4] as the Lord Commands the Last Saints
to "Come out of her, My people". And Saints are told
[v.20] to "rejoice" over the destruction of Babylon
for "God hath avenged you on her".

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In Revelation 19
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.20] as the
False Prophet and Revelations Beast are "cast alive"
into the eternal "Lake-of-Fire"
. The "Final Harvest"
immediately before destruction of the "great harlot"
[v.2] is shown as the Saints are commanded [v.17]
to "gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER of
the Great God
". Then again [v.9] the "Final Harvest"
is shown when the Saints are "called unto the
MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb
". And once more
we see [v.2] that, when God destroys the Kingdom
of "Babylon the Great", He also "hath avenged the
blood of His servants
".

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In Revelation 11
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.13] as a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud
". Again the "Final Harvest" is shown occurring
immediately before destruction of the Fourth Beast.
However, this time, the Bible reveals [v.14] the TIME
for fulfillment of this event - just before the end of
the "Second Woe"... that is important.

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In Daniel 7
the destruction of the Fourth Beast is shown [v.11]
when "the Beast was slain, and his body destroyed,
and given to the Burning Flame
". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints is shown [v.18] as "the Saints of the Most High
shall take the Kingdom, and possess the Kingdom forever,
even for ever and ever
". Again, the "Final Harvest"
of the Great Tribulation Saints is shown [v.22] when
"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the
[eternal] Kingdom
".

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Again, the POINT is the Bible gives MANY different
perspectives of the SAME people/events and these
all must be harmonized before anyone can claim to
have found more than partial-truth. In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom and God
never intended Saints in the Christian Kingdom to
understand the Great Tribulation "kings/horns/virgins"
of the Revelation Beast or the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER the Beast was destroyed and the
"wise virgins" were commanded to "Come up hither".

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TRANSLATE IT INTO TODAY'S TERMS, SHOWING WHAT IS WHAT IN THE WORLD AROUND ME!!!!!!!!! *Please...thank you.


I have already translated it into today's terms.
I have said it as plainly as possible and given you a website
that provides many more "unsealed" mysteries and much more
detail on the issues we are discussing.


The prophecy of the Last Saints is not meant to be understood
by those who are not part of the Last Saints.


Dan 12:8-10
And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord,
what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way,
Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of
the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but
the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall
understand; but the wise shall understand.


Only the "wise virgins" of the Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"...
only the Last Saints... "shall understand" the Biblical mysteries
God kept "closed-up" and "sealed" till the "time-of-the-end" or
the "Season and Time" after the Revelation Beast is destroyed.


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"people on earth preaching the Gospel of the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven",

and there are approximately SEVEN MILLION people on earth preaching the Gospel of the (2nd) Jewish 'Kingdom of Heaven'"
https://www.5thkingdomofheaven.com/chapter-1


Okay, so it's not these two gospels, so which is it?
 
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I have already translated it into today's terms.
I have said it as plainly as possible and given you a website
that provides many more "unsealed" mysteries and much more
detail on the issues we are discussing.

I think you could be more clear, but I am reading through your link. Thanks.
 
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