The kingdom of heaven

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Same as it was in the days of Noah.
The earth was destroyed with water, after the flood subsided, there was a new sin free earth.
If God cleansed the earth as he did in the days of Noah would you still call it a rotten sin filled earth which God cleansed?

Keep in mind we are talking about earth. Not another planet. If God can make you a new then he can make the earth new too.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Put some salt in water and "dissolve" it to see what will happen to this planet.


Do you think Paul was confused about the location of our future home in the passage below?

Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

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2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Put some salt in water and "dissolve" it to see what will happen to this planet.


Do you think Paul was confused about the location of our future home in the passage below?

Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

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It's a shame you won't be here to enjoy it.

Revelation 21:2 I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
 
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No, it doesn't indicate loosed from the bottomless pit in Revelation 20:7. Instead, Revelation 9:1 indicates he fell from heaven.

In Revelation 12:7-9, Satan and his angels are cast down to earth from the second heaven, and have a time, times, half time left afterward.

Revelation 9:1 is Satan on his way down to earth, and tossed to key to open the bottomless pit, because the time has come for the judgment of them held there had come as well. A time, times, half time left in the 7 years.

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First off... you have this misconception that Revelation is written
in a chronological order. That is WRONG. This is easily proven by
seeing the destruction of the Revelation Beast in chapter 6 and
chapter 11 and chapter 18 and chapter 19. The SAME EVENT
is shown from several different perspectives. So, whenever
you pretend that events are shown in chronological order you
are only demonstrating a lack of understanding.


BTW... did you notice you said Satan "fell from heaven" in v9:1
and then you said Satan was cast down in Rev 12:79
You cannot even harmonize your OWN gospel.



So yes, Revelation 12 does show Satan being cast down
and the start of the Revelation period... but so does Rev 9.
You need to understand the Three Woes before you can
even PRETEND to understand the Revelation Beast.


Rev 8:13
And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst
of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the
inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the
trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!


Try to remember this:
The START of the Revelation Beast is shown as the 1st Woe
(Rev 9) and as the Fifth Trumpet (Rev 9) and as the "Locusts"
tormenting people (Rev 9), and as the Seventh "Head".

These same "Locusts" are mentioned in Rev 11... again
showing that Revelation is NOT written in chronological
order - a fact KNOWN by Saints for almost 2000 years...
why is it "news" to you? These "Locusts" of Rev 9 which
"tormented" those in the church [Rev 9:5] are shown
again in Rev 11


Rev 11:9-10
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations
shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall
not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that
dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry,
and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.


The END of the First Beast and the START of the Second Beast
is shown as the 2nd Woe and the Sixth Trumpet and the eighth
"head".



Rev 9:13-14
And the sixth angel sounded
, and I heard a voice from the
four horns of the golden altar which is before God, Saying to
the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels
which are bound in the great river Euphrates.


So you can see the Revelation Beast included the 1st Woe
(Fifth Trumpet) during the FIRST BEAST and the 2nd Woe
(Sixth Trumpet) during the SECOND BEAST.


Again,anyone who does not understand these most basic and
essential elements of the chronology of the Revelation period
cannot even PRETEND to offer an informed opinion.

Satan is "loosened" from the Pit in Rev 9:1
at the BEGINNING of the 1st Woe or Fifth Trumpet.
If you do not understand that you do not understand
anything about the TWO Revelation Beasts.

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But let me ask you this very simple question:


You say:
Revelation 9:1 is Satan on his way down to earth, and tossed
to key to open the bottomless pit, because the time has come
for the judgment of them held there had come as well.
A time, times, half time left in the 7 years.



Who exactly do you think is the "them held there"
in the Bottomless Pit? And please show SCRIPPTURE
(not your feelings).

BTW... your delusion that Satan was "tossed the key"
to the Bottomless Pit is just hilarious. You ADD so much
to Scripture that I can see WHY you are so confused.


Revelation 9 shows Satan being "loosened" at the start
of the Revelation Beast (the 1st Woe and Fifth Trumpet)

The First Beast is destroyed and the Saints are "killed" on
the pre-appointed year/month/day/hour. The First Beast
is shown in verses 1-11... the period before the Last Saints
are "killed", as God promised in Rev 6:9-11.


Rev 9:12
One woe is past; and, behold, there come
two woes more hereafter.


Revelation 9:1 shows the START of the FIRST Beast at the
1st Woe (Fifth Trumpet)

Then Rev 9:13 shows the START of the SECOND Beast
at the 2nd Woe (Sixth Trumpet)

It is beyond my comprehension that anyone would pretend
to understand the Revelation Beast(s) when they do not even
understand the 1st Woe and the 2nd Woe... or the Fifth Trumpet
and the Sixth Trumpet.



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Take Jesus as being the creator of your dispensationalism-like system completely out of it. It is you who invented the 5 Kingdom of Heaven periods of man's history. And you who put the prefix label (name) to each period.



(1) You think I should "Take Jesus Out" of this verse:
about the Jewish
"Kingdom of Heaven"

Mat 22:2
The kingdom of heaven
is like unto a certain king,
which made a marriage for his son,



(2) You think I should "Take Jesus Out" of this verse
about the Christian
"Kingdom of Heaven"

Mat 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:



(3) You think I should "Take Jesus Out" of this verse
about the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"

Mat 25:1
Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins,
which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.



(4) You think I should "Take Jesus Out" of this verse
about the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"

Mat 8:11

And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east
and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and
Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.


Please tell me (I am DYING TO KNOW)
How many verses of Scripture do you recommend
that people INTENTIONALLY IGNORE?

Seriously, how bad is it when your entire "gospel"
is threatened with destruction by SCRIPTURE?


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If it is the Kingdom of heaven and only one way to enter it, that means Christians go to heaven after leaving this world via the rapture or by dying.

In the Lord's prayer, "may your Kingdom come" - from where ?

May your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.


Douggg... sometimes you embarrass yourself because you
do not read... or do not comprehend what I said to you.
You have only CONFIRMED what I have said...


But do you know when the term "Kingdom of Heaven"
is interchangeable with the term "Kingdom of God".
(Read the answer below... AGAIN)

What is your problem with comprehension?
Are you being intentionally deceptive - or just overwhelmed
with reading four paragraphs? Do you have a reading problem?
PAY ATTENTION NOW:


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The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

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The four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are physical and temporal
Kingdoms... and there's a "harvest" of Saints at the end of
each, with the "Final Harvest" including only the "Wise Virgins"
living during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1]

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The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God

and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", not the unsaved "tares".

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Therefore, the Bible can use the phrases interchangeably
when it focuses only on the "wheat" within the Kingdom.

When focused only on the "wheat", the Bible can use
"Kingdom of Heaven" OR "Kingdom of God". And that

is why we have several parallel passages in the Bible
that can (and do) interchange these two phrases.


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Take Jesus as being the creator of your dispensationalism-like system completely out of it. It is you who invented the 5 Kingdom of Heaven periods of man's history. And you who put the prefix label (name) to each period.


Hey Doggg...
Ever read this verse before?
Is this one of the verses you say to IGNORE



Mat 21:43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God
shall be TAKEN from you, and GIVEN to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof.


Mat 21:45
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables,
they perceived that he spake of them.


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Do you believe everything God creates is rotten sin cursed or just your community?


You seriously do not know that, after Adam rebelled,
God cursed the earth? This is Christian theology 101.



Gen 3:17
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto
the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which
I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it:
cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt
thou eat of it all the days of thy life;


Gen 5:29
And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort
us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of
the ground which the LORD hath cursed.


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The Last Saints (the "wise virgins") no longer to to any church...
since the Christian churches were left-behind when the
Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven" started.

Very much like the Jewish Temple was left-behind when
Jesus and His disciples started Christian churches as the
Last Jewish saints were "harvested" into the church age.


So, I have been sharing the 5th Kingdom of Heaven revelation with people. Please keep me in prayer as I am alone (no church) and I am on the streets.

I have went through various trials and I have seen the truth you have presented, so I have incorporated it into my belief system. I have been on a long journey through the realms of churchianity and I have always been blessed with the ability to see when I am presented with truth and I take it along with me, into what Yah has for me to accomplish.

Is there anywhere that I can get tracts or other material to distribute the unsealed mystery?

Thank you and Yah bless.
 
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God made a promise to Abraham to give to him and his seed a certain property in the middle east. There are boundaries to this property. Thus far Abraham nor his seed have received this property. Now there are some who say Abraham no longer wanted the land promised to him. There are others who say Abraham lives in the clouds and therefore wouldn't want to live on the earth. But there's one problem with this thinking. It's not Abraham's decision to make. It's God's word and it's God's promise. If God says he will give Abraham and his seed the land between the Euphrates river and the red sea for an everlasting possession. Then you better believe Abraham and his seed will be in that land forever. God's not going to go back on his word for a few confused people on this board.

Genesis 17:8 KJV: And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.


--------------------------------------------------------

The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

-------------------------------------------------------------

The four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are physical and temporal
Kingdoms... and there's a "harvest" of Saints at the end of
each, with the "Final Harvest" including only the "Wise Virgins"
living during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1]

---------------------------------------------------------

The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God
and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", not the unsaved "tares".

---------------------------------

Therefore, the Bible can use the phrases interchangeably
when it focuses only on the "wheat" within the Kingdom.
When focused only on the "wheat", the Bible can use
"Kingdom of Heaven" OR "Kingdom of God". And that
is why we have several parallel passages in the Bible
that can (and do) interchange these two phrases.

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