What verses are you particularly referring to where Jesus tells those with a dispute to listen to the church? Please list the verses and I will check them out.
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What verses are you particularly referring to where Jesus tells those with a dispute to listen to the church? Please list the verses and I will check them out.When Jesus told those of us with a dispute to listen to the Church, was he telling us to listen to ourselves?
The truth does impact salvation. If you reject those sent by Jesus, are you rejecting him?
When Jesus told those of us with a dispute to listen to the Church, was he telling us to listen to ourselves?
The truth does impact salvation. If you reject those sent by Jesus, are you rejecting him?
The context of that verse is not that we need to follow the church.Matt 18:17
The context of that verse is not that we need to follow the church.
The context of that verse is if someone in Christ has an issue or been wronged by another the steps that one takes to resolve that conflict with another believer. The last resort of trying to mend that conflict is to go to the church body.
I don't see how that makes sense. You said earlier that the church will always lead us and be right.Exactly.
I don't see how that makes sense. You said earlier that the church will always lead us and be right.
Now you are saying that you agree that the church is the last resort for sin between believers?
I'm not understanding you. Two different contexts.
So your saying Catholicism is the only true church and that denominations are not? It seems that is what you are saying, but correct me if I am wrong.The Church is a single authority, not multiple competing authorities.
So your saying Catholicism is the only true church and that denominations are not? It seems that is what you are saying, but correct me if I am wrong.
In a way, yes. He was saying to take it to the other people of the church.When Jesus told those of us with a dispute to listen to the Church, was he telling us to listen to ourselves?
I hate to break it to you but the two sheep that are in different sheep pens that need to both be brought into the fold together are the Jews and the Gentiles. Not a specific Christian church.You are correct. Jesus starting a single Church. He has followers who are not in full communion with his Church, but only one Church because there is only one Ttuth.
John 10:16
And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
I hate to break it to you but the two sheep that are in different sheep pens that need to both be brought into the fold together are the Jews and the Gentiles. Not a specific Christian church.
In a way, yes. He was saying to take it to the other people of the church.
What 'important aspects of Christianity' are you referring to?Which people? Calvinists, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Adventists, or Anglicans?
You are mistaken. Jesus started a single Church with a unified authority. Anything else leads to a departure from the truth, which is what you have in protestantism as it teaches polar opposite "truths" regarding many important aspects of Christianity.
What 'important aspects of Christianity' are you referring to?
Which people? Calvinists, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Adventists, or Anglicans?
You are mistaken. Jesus started a single Church with a unified authority. Anything else leads to a departure from the truth, which is what you have in protestantism as it teaches polar opposite "truths" regarding many important aspects of Christianity.
Your saying that departure from a unified authority has created these misunderstandings yet the misunderstanding of your church has also come directly from the unified authority proclaiming things that are unbiblical.Some examples:
1) Salvation by faith alone?
2) Necessity of Baptism?
3) Validity of Infant Baptism?
4) Some men are predestined to Hell?
5) Salvation is by faith and works?
6) God is three persons?
7) Failure to keep the Sabbath is dangerous sin?
etc.
This whole protestism teaches polar opposite truths is such a lame classification. People in your church need to be told what to do by some higher authority and would rather sit back and let someone tell them who to be than ask God what He wants them to be.Which people? Calvinists, Mormons, Baptists, Pentecostals, Adventists, or Anglicans?
You are mistaken. Jesus started a single Church with a unified authority. Anything else leads to a departure from the truth, which is what you have in protestantism as it teaches polar opposite "truths" regarding many important aspects of Christianity.
Your saying that departure from a unified authority has created these misunderstandings yet the misunderstanding of your church has also come directly from the unified authority proclaiming things that are unbiblical.
Different interpretations of scriptures is not the same as bringing in unscriptural teachings.
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