The Indie Thread

[The Theory]

I say to hell with all of Belle & Sebastian's stuff.

There is no reason to be bored by them when you can listen to other stuff (better stuff!)

 

[rebel_conservative]

FYHCYWLAP wasn't that great, and DCW has just a slight edge on TBWTAS because they don't let that other guy sing as much. This is all IMHO, of course.

I never read the NME after they only gave FYHCYWLAP 2* - in the same edition as giving some awful pop-r&b album 4*

 

[rebel_conservative]

I say to hell with all of Belle & Sebastian's stuff.

There is no reason to be bored by them when you can listen to other stuff (better stuff!)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Arnold_Philips]

I never read the NME after they only gave FYHCYWLAP 2* - in the same edition as giving some awful pop-r&b album 4*

British press is so crazy...

 

[rebel_conservative]

British press is so crazy...

I can't argue with that!

 

[Arnold_Philips]

rebel_conservative:

It's really strange to have a conservative person here in the indie places. Our type of music scene isn't exactly breeding grounds for people with your idealogies.

 

[rebel_conservative]

rebel_conservative:

It's really strange to have a conservative person here in the indie places. Our type of music scene isn't exactly breeding grounds for people with your idealogies.

and what makes you say that?

 

[Alice the Sister]

indie is the new mainstream.












and i'd list my indie-music that I listen to, but i'd be wasting my keyboard skillz, you don't know them. sure it sounds ...(you know how it sounds)... but it's true.

 

[rebel_conservative]

indie is the new mainstream.

if Indie is mainstream, I will have to start listening to the Backstreet Boys and N*Sync...

 

[Alice the Sister]

i didn't mean it like that.


it just seems indie is on the charts, etc etc, and there's lots of it floating about. it's not as hard to access (Heck, you wouldn't believe all the american indie-rock i saw in japan that i never thought i'd see)

And mainstream "used" to be all that "bubblegum pop" like Nsync, BSB, Britney Spears and all that kind of thing. The new mainstream is independent music.

And if you're upset at me thinking this, you're probably just a scenester who gets mad when other people start noticing an indie band and don't give you credit for dropping their name at a party three months before they started getting popular.

 

[rebel_conservative]

i didn't mean it like that.


it just seems indie is on the charts, etc etc, and there's lots of it floating about. it's not as hard to access (Heck, you wouldn't believe all the american indie-rock i saw in japan that i never thought i'd see)

And mainstream "used" to be all that "bubblegum pop" like Nsync, BSB, Britney Spears and all that kind of thing. The new mainstream is independent music.

And if you're upset at me thinking this, you're probably just a scenester who gets mad when other people start noticing an indie band and don't give you credit for dropping their name at a party three months before they started getting popular.

I was joking...

and btw, Britney and Justin are both on Jive, which is an indie label

 

[Arnold_Philips]

I really like JT, and I can't wait for his next album comes out. Justified was really good. And I'm not being ironic either.

And Id on't think "Toxic" was escapable last year. Such a good beat...

 

[rebel_conservative]

I really like JT, and I can't wait for his next album comes out. Justified was really good. And I'm not being ironic either.

lol, I thought it was pretty good too, it was good for what it is... I think you have to accept it as it is, it is not bad

 

[Arnold_Philips]

i didn't mean it like that.


it just seems indie is on the charts, etc etc, and there's lots of it floating about. it's not as hard to access (Heck, you wouldn't believe all the american indie-rock i saw in japan that i never thought i'd see)

And mainstream "used" to be all that "bubblegum pop" like Nsync, BSB, Britney Spears and all that kind of thing. The new mainstream is independent music.

And if you're upset at me thinking this, you're probably just a scenester who gets mad when other people start noticing an indie band and don't give you credit for dropping their name at a party three months before they started getting popular.

I am a hipster that does get mad when his band blows up. And where do you see indie on the charts? Franz Ferdinand? Please.

Until I see a soccer mom eulogizing Muslimgauze or complaining that Wolf Parade is getting too big too fast, then you can save it.

 

[Arnold_Philips]

and what makes you say that?

Just that you're an anomaly in this crowd, so it's strange. A statistical outlier, if you will.

 

[rebel_conservative]

Just that you're an anomaly in this crowd, so it's strange. A statistical outlier, if you will.

you mean I think for myself...?

I am a true contrarian

 

[Alice the Sister]

I am a hipster that does get mad when his band blows up. And where do you see indie on the charts? Franz Ferdinand? Please.

Until I see a soccer mom eulogizing Muslimgauze or complaining that Wolf Parade is getting too big too fast, then you can save it.

franz ferdinand is getting lots of attention and play.


It's not about 'selling' when it comes to indie, it's about exposure. Lots of bands that used to be indie are now more mainstream (not in sound, but in acceptance/exposure)

like Modest Mouse, action action, the blood brothers, the Faint, Cursive, Bright Eyes, From Autumn to Ashes, Atreyu and lots of stuff like that. Stuff that a few years ago nobody cared about, now a lot of it is getting coverage and such. Becoming a more 'mainstream' sect of indie music.

sure, there are plenty of indie bands that are truly indie, and i respect that. But it makes sense that bands would want exposure.

What if you're favorite indie band had tons of airplay, sold a decent amount of records, and had music videos played regularly would you consider them indie even though they have the attention of the mainstream? I wouldn't, but I'd consider their 'style' to still be indie, but they're acceptence to be mainstream. There are plenty of bands who are indie that may have reached a mainstream status. Whether they've sold out or not to reach such attention is a different topic.

 

[The Theory]

Well. I think we can safely say that we are discussing the sound, not the ideology.

And I've been saying the same thing for awhile about indie being mainstream. The second Bright Eyes found his way into Spin Magazine it was all over.

However, I rather think you SHOULD share what you enjoy listening to, indie wise, just so you don't sound like a prick. ;-)

 

[Alice the Sister]

Well. I think we can safely say that we are discussing the sound, not the ideology.

And I've been saying the same thing for awhile about indie being mainstream. The second Bright Eyes found his way into Spin Magazine it was all over.

However, I rather think you SHOULD share what you enjoy listening to, indie wise, just so you don't sound like a prick. ;-)

yeah. bands 'want' to be noticed.


that's what i'm talking about. There's a certain group of people who will find out about a band, and keep the info to themselves, and their group of friends. And they get all mad when other people have heard of that band w/o the certain group of people telling them. It's weird, but these scenesters will make sure only people they know, know of the band and they want all the credit for making the band big by spreading the name.

Those kids I cannot stand.

 

[antiarte]

I burned all my Bright Eyes albums after he performed in Leno. What a sell out.