The human ear. Product of Intelligent Design or mindless evolution?

[BCP1928]

All this obsfucation away from the fact that none have yet to adequately challenge the OP. Seems unrelated, but I think this Scripture is spot on. Folks' problem is not with God's weak vessels - but with God Himself. What should be obvious to the "scientific mind", as with the "philosophical" and every other discipline, is not - and again - there is a reason.

"Humble thyself in the sight of the Lord, and He shall lift you up!"

Join the weak and foolish, friends, and His awe will bring you daily joy!

1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NIV

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength."

biblegateway.com

I did challenge the OP in specific terms and you ignored it. And here we are, still trying to disabuse you of your inane notions about what the theory of evolution actually is and what it actually claims (including, much to HB's disappointment I'm sure) that it denies the existence of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

All this obsfucation away from the fact that none have yet to adequately challenge the OP.

Here -- I'll do it:

Evolution is supposed to be a mindless, random process that takes place over millions of years. If this is the case, how did the human hearing system arise, with its five separate components that don’t function without the others?

God did it.

Case closed.

Any other questions?

 

[Zaha Torte]

No, but it would be on topic.

Genesis is very on topic in terms of where everything comes from. Even the human ear.

 

[Zaha Torte]

That would depend on how the evidence which formed the basis of the description was gathered and evaluated..

Genesis claims that God made Man in His image - after His likeness - so we know where the human ear comes from.

 

[trophy33]

Genesis claims that God made Man in His image - after His likeness - so we know where the human ear comes from.

Where do you think it comes from?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Where do you think it comes from?

God formed Man from the dust of the ground. He formed Man in His own image and likeness. Man looks like God. God looks like Man.

 

[trophy33]

God formed Man from the dust of the ground. He formed Man in His own image and likeness. Man looks like God. God looks like Man.

God has physical ears?

 

[AV1611VET]

God formed Man from the dust of the ground. He formed Man in His own image and likeness. Man looks like God. God looks like Man.

Theistic evolutionists would -- (if you press them hard enough) -- have to admit that man is a "mutant, copy-error, made in the image & likeness of God).

 

[trophy33]

Theistic evolutionists would -- (if you press them hard enough) -- have to admit that man is a "mutant, copy-error, made in the image & likeness of God).

Press me hard enough and we will see.

 

[AV1611VET]

Press me hard enough and we will see.

Are you threatening to disrespect a major scientific template?

According to evolution, we are mutant, copy-errors.

Are you denying this?

 

[trophy33]

Are you threatening to disrespect a major scientific template?

According to evolution, we are mutant, copy-errors.

Are you denying this?

Try to make your question more sensible, I have no idea what you mean.

 

[AV1611VET]

Try to make your question more sensible, I have no idea what you mean.

This is what comes up on the AI Overview, when you Google it:

Yes, humans are the result of mutations, or errors that occur when DNA is copied during cell division.

 

[trophy33]

This is what comes up on the AI Overview, when you Google it:

Yes, humans are the result of mutations, or errors that occur when DNA is copied during cell division.

You are too messy in your posts, mixing everything together and not separating thoughts properly.

1. mutations and copy errors happen in your body right now and on many places, as you are reading this post. So denying or affirming it is nonsensical, its a fact of life.

2. We are not copy errors, we are humans. In the theistic evolution view, we are spirits living in physical bodies. Therefore, not only bodies. And bodies are not copy errors, but the results of evolution. Evolution is a process, in which copy errors also play a role, but according to predetermined God's plan, so the word "error" is vague, depending on from which point of view you want to judge it (mechanical or teleological).

3. Our likeness to God has hardly much to do with our physical shape, but rather with our intellectual, spiritual and cultural capability which makes us different from animals - we are able to reshape and rule over our environment, to render our thoughts in words, to build things, to be rational rather than emotional. Animals have some traces of these things too, but not on our level.
Its silly to think it means things like "I have intestines, therefore God has them too".

 

[AV1611VET]

2. We are not copy errors, we are humans.

Okay ... we're done.

And the fact that no evolutionist here is stepping up to the plate to tell you you are wrong speaks volumes.

 

[trophy33]

Okay ... we're done.

And the fact that no evolutionist here is stepping up to the plate to tell you you are wrong speaks volumes.

If you separated your single thoughts to their proper places and contexts, we could agree on something. But you try to present more complex ideas as belonging together in their simplest forms, using various semantic and logical errors.

For example, you ignore the difference between "our bodies are the result of copy errors" and "we are copy errors". Because you want to make it as unlovable as possible, at the expense of truth.

 

[Zaha Torte]

God has physical ears?

Sure does.

 

[trophy33]

Sure does.

How do physical ears stick to a spirit? And what is their function?

 

[Zaha Torte]

Theistic evolutionists would -- (if you press them hard enough) -- have to admit that man is a "mutant, copy-error, made in the image & likeness of God).

I do not believe that Man when they were first created - the male and female - Adam and his wife - had any physical errors.

It was by partaking of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that they inherited the conditions of mortality.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And the fact that no evolutionist here is stepping up to the plate to tell you you are wrong speaks volumes.

Humans are multicellular organisms.
A mutation is a change in the DNA within an organism.
An organism is not a change in the DNA within an organism.

 

[AV1611VET]

I do not believe that Man when they were first created - the male and female - Adam and his wife - had any physical errors.

Neither do I.

It was by partaking of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that they inherited the conditions of mortality.

Correct.