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Like I said, any interaction with something external to the system counts.
Obviously it does for experiments observed by man; but observation by man is not a requirement in general.
Yes, meaning is a human attribution. We know what the experimental results mean in terms of the behaviour of the world at large. But there is no consensus as to the deeper meaning of QM effects (i.e. why they are what they are).
It's easy enough to devise an experiment that is performed automatically and unobserved and whose results only become known after they have had real-world effects (automatically triggering investments, for example).
Not exactly flexible - the wave function of the system can be used to predict the probability of each possible outcome of an interaction more precisely than anything else in physics, but for any particular interaction, the outcome is random. Anything that interacts can be an observer for the purposes of QM.
It doesn't work like that. The probabilities are solely determined by the wave function, regardless of how the measurement or observation occurs.
Sorry to disappoint you, but no. Quantum mechanics doesn't help you with that. It may seem weird and counter-intuitive, but it follows strictly mathematical rules.
Not in this universe. In this universe spacetime is a thing, and time only stops at black holes (for someone outside looking in). Sorry 'bout that.
No, the quantum level is atomic and sub atomic. Name one cat pair that were entangled, showing spooky action at a distance!!?
And those who doubted with no reason or proof may have found their baseless doubts inspiring.
Name ONE experiment where man is not involved than!? The quantum level is atomic and subatomic, and cats and worms are not that. They are big.
Not by godless science, how could they know when they limit all their range of vision so severely??
Cute misconception. No experiment can be done without man setting it up etc! Not a one.
It is the application that is the problem here, because they way the apply things is a godless way. Also, when they apply the quantum strangeness to cats and such, they are dreaming. Name one experiment that evidences that living things would be subject to the quantum level rules?
Not really. What environment exactly are you talking about? You claim that atoms and such are 'observed' by the front lawn?
Part of what is probable is what gets observed. I suggest that man can affect things also, not just by looking at or observing atoms, but by making a choice to pray and change the outcome! Maybe the reason it is unclear and variable and subject to probability, is because the outcome depends on God and man! Science could never see that. So it gropes in the dark.
The strict rules follow our choices! That may seem counter intuitive to science because they omit reality and God from all their little equations. The equations they do see, they interpret wrongly.
The universe obeying laws set up by the creator is not magic..except to bat blind science.
You are not in an area that prayer affected in a way that the sun stopped now are you?
False. Space time is a fishbowl thing! It can be bent, folded, mutilated, and dismissed, or smacked around in a heartbeat.
Er, yes... [this reminds me of an episode of 'Father Ted'].
There are a number of interpretations that are consistent with the QM formalism. You can pick one, or you can construct your own. It makes no difference (for now) - the maths is what matters, hence the popular "Shut up and Calculate" view that simply ignores interpretations.
Quite often nature sets it up and man just has to record the results; for example, the experiments that tested General Relativity - bending of light around the sun during an eclipse, precession of Mercury, gravitational red-shift. The only involvement man had in 'setting up' the experiment was being in the right place at the right time with a telescope and a camera.
How would you do it in a godful(?) way?
That was the whole point of Shrodinger's Cat - it was pointing out the absurd implications of the conscious collapse version of the Copenhagen interpretation by a reductio ad absurdum.
Just about everything is the result of quantum processes unobserved by man - we can't see events at that scale. But how about the processes fusing hydrogen to helium deep inside the sun, and the fusion processes in other stars and supernovae that produced the heavier elements such as the stuff we're made of...
The surroundings; whatever is in the immediate vicinity of the quantum system in question.
Not exactly. There is some ambiguity in the semantics of measurement, observation, and observer in quantum physics. In lab work, measurement is done by macroscopic equipment and the results are generally observed by people. But quantum events generally occur at the quantum scale and their immediate effects are not observed - lab equipment is specially configured to make their effects visible at macro scales. At the quantum scale, one can visualise the particle interactions with the quantum system as measurements or observations, and the particles as observers (as in thought experiments). Such interactions (that can, for example, disrupt entanglement) could come from, for example, air molecules, i.e. the local environment.
You can pray all you like - praying to influence the outcome of a quantum event is as likely to succeed as praying for the two-times table to contain some odd numbers.
It really is this weird. Numerous careful experiments (e.g. testing for Bell's inequalities) have confirmed that there is no way hidden variables can explain the results, and it is not due to our imperfect knowledge of the quantum system.
That's the teaser; if you read further on in the article, you'll find this:
This reinforces the results of the tests of Bell's inequalities.New York Times said:
Notice they don't use cats in double slit experiments? There is a reason.
No it doesn't! One interprets the numbers. Having a godless interpretation merely shows that one has translated their religion into numbers!
You would not start off assuming that we need some other explanation for the universe than creation! Then, you would not assume you know it all regarding the unknown far universe, or quantum level. Need more?
I don't believe the sun works like that, sorry. Nor can you prove it. Total belief based theory.
In every case and every experiment man is involved. One can't sit around imagining that some photon will travel the universe merrily on it's way, and that you know what it encounters.
OK, so you can talk about the LOCAL environment where man is then. Even here it is a mystery to you!
Not to a believer. It is like making a phone call!
Right, so it is not pre determined, but subject to some sort of different possibility. Our choice is like that!
