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The Greatest Struggle

Discussion in 'Struggles by Non-Christians' started by primarymay, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. primarymay

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    Lousy Christian's don't go to heaven, where in the world do you get that idea?
     
  2. primarymay

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    Because Atheism is a stance, not a faith.
     
  3. MyGivenNameIsKeith

    MyGivenNameIsKeith Well-Known Member

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    As I'm confused, let me just ask, what is your beliefs and stances on the spiritual matters here? What of a soul, God, where do we go when we die, etc.?
     
  4. Galatea

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    Yes they do. I get that from Jesus. He said that He will not lose any that God has given Him. Annas and Sapphira were lousy Christians and went to Heaven.
     
  5. primarymay

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    You would know as much as I do.
     
  6. Galatea

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    Why? Is religion only for betterment? Or is it a philosophical belief. Plus, one can have a profound change in one’s soul with no corresponding change in behavior.
     
  7. MyGivenNameIsKeith

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    I don't propose to know about your personal viewpoints, other than that you state next to your name "atheist". For the sake of good conversation, I figured I would ask in that I might help. I personally have beliefs and stances and can attest to God being real in my life. I have no doubt as to where I will go when I die, and have had reassurances concerning afterwards what it will be like, though I don't know the true scope of it altogether by any means, as some of it will always be a mystery until that appointed time.
     
  8. primarymay

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    Has your god not got a voice, does he really need you or anyone to get through to me.
     
  9. Galatea

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    He doesn’t need me to get through to anyone. I’m awful at witnessing. I don’t do it, because I am more likely to turn people off God than on Him.
     
  10. ToBeLoved

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    Well it is and then there is again free will.

    Walking with Jesus is still free will every day. But in Christ, CHOOSING with that free-will to ALLOW God to transform you.

    Did you follow what Jesus said is the most important commandment, love the Lord your God with ALL your heart, soul and mind?

    Do you know it takes a lifetime to do that, because loving God is also loving others and not self.

    So did you follow Christ or did you sit back for 6 months and wait for the magic to happen? Did you love your neighbor as yourself? Did you desire and store for yourself treasures in heaven or on earth?
     
  11. ToBeLoved

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    Because God created you, gets to decide and said that He redeems those who believe in Him and that His Son died for the sins of all mankind.

    God gets to decide.
     
  12. ToBeLoved

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    Why don't you wait until you see what the afterlife is about to judge.

    Maybe if your burning in hell and he is with Christ, you'll think he was a smart Christian.

    Every atheist berates Christians because we are not in the afterlife.
     
  13. primarymay

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    No, I'm talking about god worship in general.
     
  14. primarymay

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    You can't possibly know there's a afterlife, it's ridiculous you think you know.
     
  15. primarymay

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    Considering the suffering Jesus has caused by those who follow his teachings, one could think his ideas are dangerous.
     
  16. primarymay

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    Blame Jesus, he gave you a unrealistic sin complex.
     
  17. ToBeLoved

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    Well if I’m wrong so what?

    If your wrong, your a little screwed.

    Sounds like the risk is in your belief system not mine.
     
  18. ToBeLoved

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    God, coming to earth of Hos choice to save His Children is a beautiful thing.
     
  19. primarymay

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    It is foolish to stake something so mind alterering to just belief.

    You can screw yourself up badly by believing in invisible concepts. Our mind's are adapted to sensory information.
     
  20. primarymay

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    No comment.
     
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