The Grand Canyon Supergroup

[AV1611VET]

Rejecting what one knows nothing about, thinking a quick glance is adequate study, putting conclusion despite / regardless of evidence is the opposite of any kind of honesty intellectual or otherwise. May those who promote such behaviour as reasonable- still less holy and righteous - find themselves before a kangaroo court so constituted.

Wow.

In other words, make it a crime to put the Bible above science?

And then, of all things, try them in a kangaroo court?

Well, for the record, this Rosa Parks isn't going to sit in the back of any science bus.

Guilty as charged, we don't need no stinkin' evidence.

With luck, it will just be a traffic ticket, not a capital offense like say disrespecting the koran.

What? no lampstands around?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Well, for the record, this Rosa Parks isn't going to sit in the back of any science bus.

Like it or not, flood-cleanup science belongs in the back of the science bus, alongside Astrology, Gasoline pills, Faith healing , Tin foil hats, etc. If you want to be in the leading edge of science, adopt techniques that work rather than relying on pseudoscience.

 

[AV1611VET]

Like it or not, flood-cleanup science belongs in the back of the science bus, alongside Astrology, Gasoline pills, Faith healing , Tin foil hats, etc. If you want to be in the leading edge of science, adopt techniques that work rather than relying on pseudoscience.

Science can take a hike.

 

[doubtingmerle]

Science can take a hike.

I don't understand how you can say this and still claim that you should have a front seat in the science bus. If that's your attitude, be glad they let you in the back of the bus.

 

[Estrid]

I don't understand how you can say this and still claim that you should have a front seat in the science bus. If that's your attitude, be glad they let you in the back of the bus.

Back of the bus?

Why should antiscience attitude, and
profound ignorance be given a place
to vent their insensible talk?

I doubt churches provide pews for
Satan worshippers to be taking part,

 

[AV1611VET]

Why should antiscience attitude, and profound ignorance be given a place to vent their insensible talk?

You mean like on a Christian website?

Welcome to Christian forums.

And I don't know what they do over there in Hong Kong, but over here, we have this thing called the Bill of Rights, which insures that no pogrom will occur legally on U.S. soil.

 

[doubtingmerle]

You mean like on a Christian website?

Welcome to Christian forums.

And I don't know what they do over there in Hong Kong, but over here, we have this thing called the Bill of Rights, which insures that no pogrom will occur legally on U.S. soil.

Yes, if you want to spread pseudoscience, this forum might be a good forum for you.

But if you want that pseudoscience in the front of the science bus, then no, pseudoscience belongs in the back of that bus.

Why would you tell science to take a hike and then ask to be considered science? Are you asking to take a hike?

 

[Estrid]

Yes, if you want to spread pseudoscience, this forum might be a good forum for you.

But if you want that pseudoscience in the front of the science bus, then no, pseudoscience belongs in the back of that bus.

Why would you tell science to take a hike and then ask to be considered science? Are you asking to take a hike?

Wouldn't that be nice.

 

[dlamberth]

Science can take a hike.

Even when God is using Science to update our understanding of His creation process?

 

[AV1611VET]

Even when God is using Science to update our understanding of His creation process?

What creation process?

 

[dlamberth]

What creation process?

The process that the window of Science is opening into the billion years of changing geological landscape and the evolutionary changes of the biosphere.

 

[AV1611VET]

The process that the window of Science is opening into the billion years of changing geological landscape and the evolutionary changes of the biosphere.

And when He's done making all those changes, what then?

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Like pulling a sheet of paper out of a typewriter, wading it up, and throwing it in the fire?

 

[dlamberth]

And when He's done making all those changes, what then?

An essence of the Creator is that He Creates and never stops Creating. Why, because it's an aspect of His essence.

 

[AV1611VET]

An essence of the Creator is that He Creates and never stops Creating. Why, because it's an aspect of His essence.

Does science contradict your doctrine?

 

[dlamberth]

Does science contradict your doctrine?

The only doctrine I subscribe to is Love, Compassion, Empathy and Service. These are pretty important in making us a more human, Human Being. They are also critical in serving God.

 

[AV1611VET]

The only doctrine I subscribe to is Love, Compassion, Empathy and Service. These are pretty important in making us a more human, Human Being. They are also critical in serving God.

I think you know what I meant.

You know when I'm about to make a good point, don't you?

You talk about God telling you He's still creating a beautiful universe, and using science as His spokesmen, while at the same time you know good and well that science is saying the universe is heading toward "heat death," thermal equilibrium, maximum entropy.

A time when the universe is at 0°K, where even Brownian Motion ceases.

 

[dlamberth]

I think you know what I meant.

You know when I'm about to make a good point, don't you?

You talk about God telling you He's still creating a beautiful universe, and using science as His spokesmen, while at the same time you know good and well that science is saying the universe is heading toward "heat death," thermal equilibrium, maximum entropy.

A time when the universe is at 0°K, where even Brownian Motion ceases.

I think your mistaken. I've never said that God is "telling" me anything.

What I know good and well is that science has opened a window into an on going creating process that never ends. Even "IF" heading towards a hypothesis "heat death," thermal equilibrium, maximum entropy trajectory, new stuff is brought forward in the process, the creating process never ends as something will be birthed afterwards.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think your mistaken. I've never said that God is "telling" me anything.

What's this then?

God does tell us just that through His Creation, as Created by God and signed off with His own signature. You just don't want to listen.

 

[dlamberth]

What's this then?

Just listening to life, the earth and the cosmos. That's what Panenthest do as that's where they find God.

 

[Estrid]

No, that would be your problem.

Uniformitarianism has evidential support. Catastrophism by Miracles has literally zero. i.e. You can not demonstrate your position. I can.

As if there is not a continuum from
gradual through catastrophic.