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[Apple Sky]

Do you understand that the Hebrew word translated as ‘light’ or ‘lights’ can mean ‘luminary’ or ‘luminaries’ ie something that can either give its own light or reflect light?

The moon does not reflect off the sun, as the moon has it's own light & both the sun & moon circles our sky.

 

[Hentenza]

The moon does not reflect off the sun, as the moon has it's own light & both the sun & moon circles our sky.

The moon has no light of its own. The moon is just a rock. It reflects the light of the sun. The moon circles the earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

The moon is just a rock.

The moon is a light & it's what God created to give us time.

 

[David Lamb]

The moon is a light & it's what God created to give us time.

The moon is one of the things Genesis says is a marker of time. Indeed, the very word "moon" is where we get our word "month" from.

 

[Apple Sky]

The moon is one of the things Genesis says is a marker of time. Indeed, the very word "moon" is where we get our word "month" from.

And the day Monday

 

[Kathleen30]

The moon is a light & it's what God created to give us time.

Apple I would agree with that. God does mention 2 great lights in Genesis 1:16 not just one great light . I believe the moon has its own light source too

 

[David Lamb]

And the day Monday

Agreed, but the fact that a day of the week, ands the word month, in English are both based on "moon" is not what God meant in Genesis about sun, moon and stars being for times and seasons. English as a language wasn't in existence then.

 

[d taylor]

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The raqia separating the waters below and above the raqia Genesis 1.

Is just like the space God used to separate the waters for the Red Sea (Genesis 14) crossing. It was a space that was separating and holding back waters, but it was also a space where the Hebrews could move and cross the dry land.
But the children of Israel had walked on dry land in the midst of the sea, and the waters were a wall to them on their right hand and on their left.

Also
The flood account as described in The Bible could only be on a single piece of flat stationary land. As there is not a single verse stating that the seas were covered only the land was covered by the flood waters. Which these waters came from springs below the earth and from above the raqia and earth.

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on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

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Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth. The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters. And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive. And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days.

 

[Phil G]

The moon does not reflect off the sun, as the moon has it's own light & both the sun & moon circles our sky.

I asked you two questions. You didn’t answer. You just made a statement.

Here are the questions again.

1) Do you understand that the Hebrew word translated as ‘firmament’ can mean ‘expanse’ ie something not solid?

And

2) Do you understand that the Hebrew word translated as ‘light’ or ‘lights’ can mean ‘luminary’ or ‘luminaries’ ie something that can either give its own light or reflect light?

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you understand that the Hebrew word translated as ‘firmament’ can mean ‘expanse’

Yes.

Do you understand that the Hebrew word translated as ‘light’ or ‘lights’ can mean ‘luminary’ or ‘luminaries’

yes.

 

[Hentenza]

The moon is a light & it's what God created to give us time.

Nope. Again misinterpreting symbolic language. Time is measured by the rotation of the earth which is one full rotation per 24 hours.

 

[Phil G]

Yes.



yes.

Then, at most, all you can say is that the ‘firmament’ God created in Genesis 1 may or may not be solid, and the ‘lights’ God created in Genesis 1 may or may not be self-luminous.

You cannot insist that the firmament is solid and you cannot insist that the moon gives its own light.

And you cannot insist that those of us who say the ‘firmament’ is a non-solid expanse, and the moon is not self-luminous are reading the Bible wrong or being in any away against what God is saying in Genesis 1.

Because the Bible simply does not tell us those details.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nope. Again misinterpreting symbolic language. Time is measured by the rotation of the earth which is one full rotation per 24 hours.

Time is measured by the sun & the moon, there is no rotation to the earth.

 

[Hentenza]

Time is measured by the sun & the moon, there is no rotation to the earth.

Time is measured by the rotation of the earth not by the sun and the moon. This is fact.

 

[Apple Sky]

Because the Bible simply does not tell us those details.

God gave you a brain, work it out.

How God set two great lights in the firmament & separated the waters that were under the waters from the waters that were above the firmament.

 

[Apple Sky]

Time is measured by the rotation of the earth not by the sun and the moon. This is fact.

Not in the Bible it's not.

 

[Phil G]

God gave you a brain, work it out.

How God set two great lights in the firmament & separated the waters that were under the waters from the waters that were above the firmament.

Excuse me, I have demonstrated repeatedly that I use my brain. There’s no need to be insulting.

You have just agreed that the Hebrew word for ‘lights’ can mean ‘luminaries’ as in something which is not necessarily self-luminous.

And you have just agreed that the ‘firmament’ can mean something not solid.

So again, you cannot insist that the firmament is solid nor that the lights in Genesis 1 are self-luminous. If you do insist, then you are contradicting both yourself and the meanings of the words themselves.

 

[Hentenza]

Not in the Bible it's not.

Is symbolic language in the Bible and not written to defy fact. In your interpretation you call God ignorant of His own creation.

 

[Hentenza]

@Apple Sky

People circumvent the earth every day whether by sea or by air and arrive back at the same spot. No one has found the edge of your “disc” or fallen off the end of your flat earth nonsense. No one. Why do you think that is?

 

[Apple Sky]

You have just agreed that the Hebrew word for ‘lights’ can mean ‘luminaries’ as in something which is not necessarily self-luminous.

And you have just agreed that the ‘firmament’ can mean something not solid.

I have agreed to nothing, you asked me questions to what I answed 'Yes'.