THE FULFILLMENT OF BABYLON THE GREAT

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Thanks for the response Marilyn

The Day Of The Lord comes as a thief in sudden destruction, like a woman giving birth, this takes place immediately after the tribulation at the second coming if Jesys in the heavens

Jesus Is The Lord

1 Thessalonians 5:2-3KJV
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Good to discuss with you.

In Joel 2 we read of the northern army that God sends to Israel to cause them to turn to Him. God deals with them and then in Ch. 3 we read of God bringing all the world`s armies down to Jerusalem to be judged. This reveals the beginning and end of the trib.

1. The Russian Federation and allies being brought by God down to the mountains of Israel, (Golan heights) When God deals with them then the world will say, "Peace and safety." But then sudden destruction as God pours out His judgments upon the rebellious nations - trumpet judgments.

2. God brings the world`s armies down to Jerusalem and deals with them. (Joel 3)
 
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Jesus gave out authority beyond preaching the Gospel.
Matthew 18:18
18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.[a] RSVCE

Jesus is providing His disciples guidance on how to handle a situation of conflict and sin (transgression of the law) within the congregation.

First, the offended party should meet with the offender to be reconciled and for the offender to repent of his sin.

Second, If there is refusal to repent on the part of the offender, the situation is escalated to two or more faithful witnesses, following the Old Testament requirements where legal judgments were made on the testimony of two elders.

Third if there still is no repentance, the entire church congregation is involved.

If the person fails to come to his senses and does not repent of his offense, the church (believers) are to disassociate with that person; treat the offender as an unbeliever. If the offender does in fact repentant (whenever that is) he is to be welcomed back into the fold of believers.

If a person remains in their sin (transgression of the law - willful disobedience) they are bound …. if they repent they are loosed and can only be loosened by the power of Jesus through the Holy Spirit helping them to overcome their sin.

The keys to heaven is preaching the gospel to others …. by receiving Christ as ones savior and walking in His ways (following His teachings) …. unlocks the doors to heaven …. else one is bound to sin and can not enter in.

Only Jesus can forgive sin unto salvation .. no man or church has this authority.

Matthew 28:18-20 New Living Translation (NLT)

Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

All authority belongs to Jesus in heaven and on earth.

Believers are to spread the good news about Jesus that they might become disciples and loosened from their sin.

The authority given to the apostles and to us (believers) is to spread the Word of God as it is written, not to claim to have divine powers that are Christ’s alone.

John 14:6 ESV

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Not through the church … not through ANY man … through Christ alone. Thank you Jesus!!! AMEN
 
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But it does not control the world.

The papacy has been very politically active throughout history.

Everything is progressing .... how long it will take to come to full fruition .... who knows, but it will indeed happen?

Not seemingly openly or directly (at this time) rather through influence with the kings of the earth (governments) and merchants (business leaders) of the world. There is no other religious entity that does this ... this is being done under the guise of "the common good" .... who decides what the "common good" is?

The pope believes in and supports world government and that the Catholic Church is the universal (world church) the pope don't and won't change this view.

so .... will the pope bend to world government or vice versa? No, they will work together and that is exactly what we
see in the book of Revelation. Religious and governmental control on a world-wide basis.

We are being led down that road, but have not reached the end of the road yet.
 
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The papacy has been very politically active throughout history.

Everything is progressing .... how long it will take to come to full fruition .... who knows, but it will indeed happen?

Not seemingly openly or directly (at this time) rather through influence with the kings of the earth (governments) and merchants (business leaders) of the world. There is no other religious entity that does this ... this is being done under the guise of "the common good" .... who decides what the "common good" is?

The pope believes in and supports world government and that the Catholic Church is the universal (world church) the pope don't and won't change this view.

so .... will the pope bend to world government or vice versa? No, they will work together and that is exactly what we
see in the book of Revelation. Religious and governmental control on a world-wide basis.

We are being led down that road, but have not reached the end of the road yet.
However, you don`t get put in prison if you don`t believe or follow the RCC teachings. You will get fined or in prison if you don`t adhere to the United Nations moral code. This is throughout all countries, civil and business, education, media, entertainment etc. The moral code is - respect, tolerate, inclusiveness etc of all genders, sexual activity, etc.

Try and speak against `Pride month` on TV or social media and see what happens.
 
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The papacy has been very politically active throughout history.
Rome persecuted Catholics before Constantine's reign, many popes were martyred before that time from Peter on down. After Peter was martyred then came martyrs Linus, Cletus, Clement, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Anicetus, Soter, Eleuterus, Victor,Calixtus, Urban, Pontian, Anterus, Fabisn, cornelisu, Lucius,Stephen, Sixtus II, Donysius,Felix, Eutychain, Caius, Marcellinus, ,Marcellus, and Pope Eusebius. So as to politics, before Constantine Catholics were very much underground.
 
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Rome persecuted Catholics before Constantine's reign, many popes were martyred before that time from Peter on down. After Peter was martyred then came martyrs Linus, Cletus, Clement, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Anicetus, Soter, Eleuterus, Victor,Calixtus, Urban, Pontian, Anterus, Fabisn, cornelisu, Lucius,Stephen, Sixtus II, Donysius,Felix, Eutychain, Caius, Marcellinus, ,Marcellus, and Pope Eusebius. So as to politics, before Constantine Catholics were very much underground.
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
 
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The papacy has been very politically active throughout history.

Everything is progressing .... how long it will take to come to full fruition .... who knows, but it will indeed happen?

Not seemingly openly or directly (at this time) rather through influence with the kings of the earth (governments) and merchants (business leaders) of the world. There is no other religious entity that does this ... this is being done under the guise of "the common good" .... who decides what the "common good" is?

The pope believes in and supports world government and that the Catholic Church is the universal (world church) the pope don't and won't change this view.

so .... will the pope bend to world government or vice versa? No, they will work together and that is exactly what we
see in the book of Revelation. Religious and governmental control on a world-wide basis.

We are being led down that road, but have not reached the end of the road yet.
Popes are men who have been given a job to do like everyone else. There are good popes and bad popes, popes can go to Heaven or hell.
 
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However, you don`t get put in prison if you don`t believe or follow the RCC teachings. You will get fined or in prison if you don`t adhere to the United Nations moral code. This is throughout all countries, civil and business, education, media, entertainment etc. The moral code is - respect, tolerate, inclusiveness etc of all genders, sexual activity, etc.

Try and speak against `Pride month` on TV or social media and see what happens.
Like I said .... things have not come to full fruition yet .... global government is in the works and the papacy is on board fully with this (the common good, ecumenism , largely being driven by climate change (something that presents itself to effect the entire world). In the book of Revelation it speaks of financial collapse and civil unrest .... the entire world is at this point. The book of Revelation also says the entire world will follow the beast .... (follow) this will be by deception not by force. There are two components (religion/government) .... ultimately they will mingle with one another on a global basis. The catholic belief is that they are the "universal church" .... it is what the word catholic means ... universal.

The main focus of the book of Revelation is about worship .... the "war" is between God and satan .... and that war has been won by Jesus .. we are just waiting until the Lord returns and picks up all the survivors (first resurrection) ... but there are some things that will take place until that happens. We do not know when it will come to full fruition .... but no doubt it will happen and we are seeing definite signs of going down that "road".

The moral code is - respect, tolerate, inclusiveness etc of all genders, sexual activity, etc.

The above is secular "moral code" not God's moral code. We know what His word says about "sexual activity" and states clearly ... He made them male and female. This is how satan works .... twists around the Word of God. God says he made them male and female and called them man and woman. Satan says ... you can be anything you want (deception) and the kings and merchants are promoting this and along with the papacy welcoming everyone universally into the catholic church. Fine .... but then change needs to take place .... if change does not take place (repentance - turning away from sin) .... then what? What does the church look like? The church becomes totally corrupt or will force its beliefs to certain degrees though the governmental powers ... the "common good" as defined/agreed by the two entities.

We are not to be mean to others who have different beliefs ... but we are called to separate ourselves from sin ...

1 Corinthians 5:11

But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.

“We are all brothers and sisters” says Pope Francis in Christmas message

no .... brotherhood of BELIEVERS ... one can become a brother/sister through Christ. To some there is no such thing as sin ... because of the belief there is no such thing as God .... some believe in different and/or many gods ... and/or diminishes the supremacy and divinity of Jesus.

"fraternity" (is not the brotherhood of believers)

fraternity a group of people sharing a common profession or interests.

There is nothing about this in the Bible (fraternity) this is a secular viewpoint .... and the world views vary greatly especially regarding worship ... there are many "gods" ... for christians there is one God ... one mediator ... Christ Jesus. We christians can not worship with those who have other gods.

1 Corinthians 8:6

Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

brothers and sisters in Him .... the brotherhood of believers.

.... no christians are not a fraternity .... christians are followers of the teachings of Christ and are those who have accepted Christ as their Lord and savior ,,, those are brothers and sisters (brotherhood of believers)

We are to promote (spread the good news) to all to come to Jesus and adhere to His teachings ... it's up to the individual to decide to do that or not .... some will ... some won't. God don't force himself on anyone .... people need to and will make a decision in that regard.

It's all about Jesus ...

not humanism

an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. Humanist beliefs stress the potential value and goodness of human beings, emphasize common human needs (common good), and seek rational ways of solving human problems (world government). This is what the papacy, and many of the kings (governmental entities) and merchants of the earth are promoting ... humanism.

Jesus did not come to bring peace.

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).


1 Thessalonians 5:3
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3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Lots of things to think about ... consider ... there is a "shaking" going on and it will escalate (like brith pangs) until Jesus returns and ends this mess.

Hebrews 12:26-27

And His voice shook the earth then, but now He has promised, saying, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heaven.” This expression, “Yet once more,” denotes the removing of those things which can be shaken, as of created things, so that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Even so .... come Lord Jesus. Amen. I look forward to His return.
 
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Popes are men who have been given a job to do like everyone else. There are good popes and bad popes, popes can go to Heaven or hell.
We are talking about who goes to heaven in hell .... we are talking about signs of the end times.
 
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Mystery Babylon the Great, was the city ruling at the time John wrote, Rome.
(Jerusalem) Is The harlot, Mystery Babylon The Great.

The Levitical High Priest Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below

(Revelation) 17:4KJV

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Yes "The Woman", The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones

(Exodus) 28:15-20KJV
15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it.
16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof.
17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row.
18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings.

(Jerusalem) is the seven Mount city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

(Revelation) 17:9KJV

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

(Revelation) 18:24KJV

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

(Matthew) 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Jerusalem (The Woman) that (Great City) as seen below, Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified

(Revelation) 17:18AKJV

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

(Revelation) 11:8AKJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jews/Hebrews cast dust upon their heads, weeping for the (Great City) Jerusalem

(Revelation) 18:19 AKJV

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
 
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No, the United States is not Babylon the great because....

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

The first person slain upon the earth was Abel. The United States was not around then. Nor during the days of the old testament prophets. Nor of all the saints down through the years.

Mystery, Babylon the great is the mystical (i.e. not geographic) kingdom of Satan and his angels.

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The sudden fall of a great trading city in Revelation 18 is an analogy of how quickly Satan and his angels kingdom will come to an end. Satan deals in the merchandise of violence - as all that were slain upon the earth.

Ezkiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Babylon the great or to be more correct Mystery Babylon the Great, is plainly explained in the text itself. It was the city ruling at the time ov John. It was alco sitting on seven hills. It is the fourth kingdom in Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. It still rules over a quarter of the worlds citizens. It is ROME.
 
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Babylon the great or to be more correct Mystery Babylon the Great, is plainly explained in the text itself. It was the city ruling at the time ov John. It was alco sitting on seven hills. It is the fourth kingdom in Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. It still rules over a quarter of the worlds citizens. It is ROME.
The woman turned harlot is located in Rome.

But the woman herself is not Mystery Babylon the Great. She has an inscription on her forehead indicating that she is one of the harlots of Mystery Babylon the Great, Mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.

Revelation 18:24 indicates that Babylon the Great is responsible for all slain upon the earth. The first to be slain was Abel. Rome was not around at that time. Neither was the woman turned harlot.

Mystery, Babylon the Great is the mystical kingdom of Satan and his angels.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

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The mystery of God in Revelation 10:7 is His plan on how He is going to destroy the kingdom of Satan and his angels - who have caused all the ills not only of man kind, but all of creation.

We all, heaven and earth, should rejoice for God's sovereignty for His great and Holy plan - for He alone has the power to execute it. Let the angels in heaven sing and men's hearts rejoice and praise God's Holy Name !
 
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Babylon the great or to be more correct Mystery Babylon the Great, is plainly explained in the text itself. It was the city ruling at the time ov John. It was alco sitting on seven hills. It is the fourth kingdom in Daniel 2 and Daniel 7. It still rules over a quarter of the worlds citizens. It is ROME.
Rome is but a city now, but at the time the NT was written Rome was persecuting Catholics.
 
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