Memorial Tower would have been more fitting, since some of the people's bodies disintergrated into dust there. Freedom Tower...who thinks of these names??? How is it a symbol of freedom?
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The Freedom Tower
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What you guys think of the design? I personally think the design is just not ambitious enough, it is only 70 floors of occupied space, hardly close to the standards of being the tallest building. I think the open latticework on the top will look out of place too, althought the idea is cool, environmentally safe and provides 20% of the structure power. But men, it's a see through, what they going to do, light it up at night?
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Yobi said:
I'd prefer to see two towers again, but linked in some way. I don't really care for height, that's just askin for trouble.
Who cares if it isn't the highest? Size isn't everythin, ya know.
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Ikaria said:I'd prefer to see two towers again, but linked in some way. I don't really care for height, that's just askin for trouble.
Who cares if it isn't the highest? Size isn't everythin, ya know.
Well, given the size of the old World Trade, it would be funny if we build something that's half of it's previous height.
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Ikaria said:Why?Forget "funny", what happened to "sensible"?
There's nothing intelligent about building a bigger one "just because we can." It sure doesn't prove anything.
It will look like we lost to the terrorists, like "look, Americans are so scared of the terrorists they are scared to build buildings that's as tall as before"
Besides, what's so not sensible of building tall buildings? There ain't that much free space in downtown manhattan you know, they need to squeeze out all that they have to make it the biggest, baddest, the most advanced to make the area what it was once before. They need to attract all the big companies to move their offices back in there. Retailers needs those traffics of working people to boost their economies as well, while residents demands more residential avalibilities.
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Oh please!
Since when did some kinda caveman macho attitude take precedence over common sense? When a guy slugs you in the face so hard that he almost takes your head off, the correct response is to shield yourself before goin back in again, or back up and wait for a better time to re-enter the fight.
The incorrect response is to stick your jaw out and ask for another smack in the chops, claiming that "I can take it!!!"
Ya don't need a monstrously tall building to do that.
The replacement doesn't hafta be 2 million stories high to do what the Twin Towers did.
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Ikaria said:Oh please!
When a guy slugs you in the face so hard that he almost takes your head off, the correct response is to shield yourself before goin back in again, or back up and wait for a better time to re-enter the fight.
The incorrect response is to stick your jaw out and ask for another smack in the chops, claiming that "I can take it!!!"
The correct response will be checking our safty procedures and infastruture design, how it went down although it could've standed the impact. Also how the airplane manage to sqeeze through all our security detections. The priority should be improve the security checking at our airports, add protections for the cockpits and for the pilots. Better air traffic controls and early emergency detections. Hunt down terrorists groups and cut off their financial sources. Reduce our culture conflicts in the Middle East regions as well. All those will be a good things to do.
There's no point in saying "[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], we have to make the buildings smaller and harder to hit" They have plenty of other targets in nyc or any other cities.
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Oh yes you do, unless you want to revamp the map or the city planning.
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Yobi said:
That's not what I'm sayin, I just think it doesn't make sense to go lookin for trouble.
Smaller buildings does not equate to "we'll be OK next time" (the attack on the Pentagon proved that) but it does mean that there's less reason to target them and a lot more hassle involved for those who wanna try. (Easier to hit a massive skyscraper with a plane then to hit a supermarket? Well, yeah!)
A big, tall building that everyone looks up to and worships as a symbol of American power is an obvious target.
Somethin that's no larger than a medium size apartment block and performs the same function, just doesn't make the same statement.
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"The name Freedom Tower sounds horribly cliched to me."
i kinda agree. they changed Newark airport to "Liberty" airport, and it's just not the same...i mean, its kind of a concession because ill always remember why they changed the name...cuz we got whooped one day.
...how bout victory tower?
i kinda agree. they changed Newark airport to "Liberty" airport, and it's just not the same...i mean, its kind of a concession because ill always remember why they changed the name...cuz we got whooped one day.
...how bout victory tower?
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I'm a little concerned about this new building.
Now dont get me wrong there was absolutley NO justification for the 9/11 attacks at all!!
But cant America see that it is this 'bigger and better' attitude which irritates the rest of the world and causes resentment against the States. Of course we need to show the terrorists that they can not destroy our liberty, but this new tower is going to do nothing more than incite people against the US.
I would have gone for something more humble, to remember the dead and to hope for a world of peace and freedom. Another way of putting it is that you wouldnt build a Freedom Tower on the spot where Austwitz concentration camp once stood?
I am concerned for America because their relationship with the world has seriously deteritiated since 9/11, when the US should have been doing some relationship building.
Now dont get me wrong there was absolutley NO justification for the 9/11 attacks at all!!
But cant America see that it is this 'bigger and better' attitude which irritates the rest of the world and causes resentment against the States. Of course we need to show the terrorists that they can not destroy our liberty, but this new tower is going to do nothing more than incite people against the US.
I would have gone for something more humble, to remember the dead and to hope for a world of peace and freedom. Another way of putting it is that you wouldnt build a Freedom Tower on the spot where Austwitz concentration camp once stood?
I am concerned for America because their relationship with the world has seriously deteritiated since 9/11, when the US should have been doing some relationship building.
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I think they should have built 2 towers as well, a waste of space building those tiny buildings (or whatever) on the rest of the former WTC area.
They could have built the memorial(s) inside the two towers instead and gotten more use of the space. Two shorter wider towers would have given more office space.
They could have built the memorial(s) inside the two towers instead and gotten more use of the space. Two shorter wider towers would have given more office space.
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