The Fossil Record Proves Speciation, Not Evolution of Lifeforms Observed

[DogmaHunter]

Because you do not lose a genetic trait!

Chickens have inactive DNA to build teeth. Their ancestors used to have teeth.
Moles have non-functioning eyes hidden away behind a layer of skin. Their ancestors lived above ground and had a use for eyes. Today's moles don't.

Species lose (and gain) traits all the time.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Your physiology is the genetic design, weak legs, two legs, slow movement.

Slow animals are slaughtered by lions, hyenas, and every other predator.

Then why do primitive tribes that "live in the wild" in mud huts still exist?
Shouldn't they be "slaughtered" by fast, strong predators?

 

[tas8831]

"The Fossil Record Proves Speciation, Not Evolution of Lifeforms Observed "



LOL!

The irony is staggeringly hilarious...

 

[tas8831]

Yes, the point in the OP stands.

Yes, it stands as a great example of an illogical argument.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I did not say that. I only say rock has cell. Don't think too much.

Have some integrity - you equated rock 'cells' to the cells that are part of the criteria for life when you said, "by those conditions, a rock is alive." This is a clear fallacy of equivocation.

You also said, "A rock cell has similar function to a biological cell." This too is false - and, I suspect, deliberately disingenuous.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Sorry Speedwell, but the world record high jump is a little over 8 FEET, not 8 meters. In meters, the record is 2.45.

I think he meant long jump...

 

[USincognito]

Juvenissum what are you talking about . That makes absolutely no sense

Get used to that.

 

[klutedavid]

We LOST the trait to catabolise ascorbic acid.

I showed you what you said couldn’t happen had happened.

It would be nice if you had the good grace to acknowledge that.

If you could expand on the vitamin C aspect of your claim, then I can reply?

 

[PsychoSarah]

You are brainwashed in the style of thinking. Your example could also indicate:

Shakespeare's book --> Has Shakespeare's pages
Harry Potter book --> Has Harry Potter's pages
The third book --> (of course) Has both types of pages.

Noticed that the arrows are going toward right, not toward left. The third book may NOT be the mixture of the other two.

-_- no one in their right mind would think that two people could independently write 30 identical pages of text by chance.

 

[klutedavid]

This comment of yours is pointless.

You’ve never seen turtles drowned because they have got lost in submerged tunnels?

We are talking about navigation across oceans and land, not finding your way through a maze. These are very different environments.

 

[klutedavid]

Then you have no business on a debate forum on this topic.

You have made up your mind and by your own admission, nothing will every convince you of being wrong - not even if you are indeed wrong.

This means that you have taken up the intellectually dishonest position of accepting unquestionable dogma.

So any "debate" with you on the topic, is an exercise in futily and a waste of time.

Then I would assume, that you have likewise do not have a fixed viewpoint on this topic.

 

[juvenissun]

You also said, "A rock cell has similar function to a biological cell." This too is false - and, I suspect, deliberately disingenuous.

Why is it false? Want a bet?

 

[bhsmte]

Man did not evolve from any creature.

And we should believe you are correct, why exactly?

 

[klutedavid]

Euh.... how do you think humans survived and hunted during prehistoric times??



First, we no longer live "in the wild".
Second, we would manage just fine (as a species). Go see some tibes in africa, latin america, etc... they live in jungles surrounded by dangerous predators and nasty insects.
They survive, don't they?

In terms of predators, Africa is a far more dangerous environment for humans, than south America. I would expect the expansion of human settlement in Africa, to be very slow.

Human settlement in Africa should extend from the Nile, across the top of Africa. This is what I expect to see in the archaeology of Africa. If you can furnish evidence of human settlements in the middle or even in the south of Africa. Then I will consider that evidence and any possible hypothesis, to explain that evidence.

Humans are an extremely social animals and towns rapidly develop where ever they travel. I just need abundant evidence, not speculative arguments from scant evidence.

We have some evidence from prehistory of human settlement, but that evidence is mainly outside of Africa.

 

[Larniavc]

If you could expand on the vitamin C aspect of your claim, then I can reply?

Humans need to ingest ascorbic acid. We cannot synthesise it due to a mutation in the GULO gene. Normally GULO is an enzyme that catalyses the reaction of D-glucuronolactone with oxygen to L-xylo-hex-3-gulonolactone. Our non human primate ancestors lost the ability to do so about 61 million years ago.

This is undergraduate biology stuff. If you don’t have at least some understanding of it you’re not really in a good position to debate it.

 

[Larniavc]

This comment of yours is pointless.

We are talking about navigation across oceans and land, not finding your way through a maze. These are very different environments.

Your saying you can’t navigate by the sun, the stars, the moon or geography?

That’s weird: I can.

 

[klutedavid]

Chickens have inactive DNA to build teeth. Their ancestors used to have teeth.
Moles have non-functioning eyes hidden away behind a layer of skin. Their ancestors lived above ground and had a use for eyes. Today's moles don't.

Species lose (and gain) traits all the time.

Is inactive DNA a lost trait or is inactive DNA a dormant trait?

 

[klutedavid]

Your saying you can’t navigate by the sun, the stars, the moon or geography?

That’s weird: I can.

I am claiming that human navigation is the result of conscious mental thought processes.
No markers and we will always walk in arcs and circles.

Whereas as animals instinctively navigate. Infant eels can navigate thousands of miles of open ocean, without ever being taught to navigate. They migrate from the Coral Sea down to the bottom of Australia, up a river and into a lake. These eels are born with an extraordinary ability to navigate (instinct).

 

[juvenissun]

-_- no one in their right mind would think that two people could independently write 30 identical pages of text by chance.

The existence of the book [has a 30-page chapter]. Notice it is NOT: [makes the 30-page existed, or the other way around]. This chapter can also appear in any other book when it sees fit.

Use another example:

Computer codes a --> does job A
Computer codes b --> does job B
Computer codes (ab) --> does job C.
Job C does not have to have any relationship with job A or job B.

 

[klutedavid]

Humans need to ingest ascorbic acid. We cannot synthesise it due to a mutation in the GULO gene. Normally GULO is an enzyme that catalyses the reaction of D-glucuronolactone with oxygen to L-xylo-hex-3-gulonolactone. Our non human primate ancestors lost the ability to do so about 61 million years ago.

This is undergraduate biology stuff. If you don’t have at least some understanding of it you’re not really in a good position to debate it.

Is this inability to ingest ascorbic acid indemic in all omnivores?