The fossil record explained

[DogmaHunter]

But that's what it suggests.

No. It makes no mention of "all life" at all.

 

[AV1611VET]

But surely then you can answer this because it's no challenge for you:

I sure can.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry dude, none of the things I wrote in my OP are addressed here.

I'll address it.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Don't you think it had a profound effect on the evolution of those species that survived, if indeed they did survive?

Off course. A heavily changed environment and eco-system means radical change to selection parameters. Loads of new niches to fill. Both new niches created by the "new reality" after the event, as well as now empty niches left behind by those that didn't make it.

Nothing provides more evolutionary change then relatively sudden and radical changes in selection parameters.

But just to be clear about the point: at no point in life's minimum of 3.8 billion year history, did evolution ever need to start over "from scratch".

 

[AV1611VET]

Here is the challenge:

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here is the challenge you have to address in this thread:

Gladly.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[AV1611VET]

HERE on this thread it's about the 3 points above mentioned.

Fair enough.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

In others words each destruction event killed all the life in those formations, and evolution had to start over from scratch.

Oh no, the brand new life forms that continued on (that just can’t be found in the previous layer) miraculously survived the event that killed off all the other creatures..... in great enough numbers no bottleneck occurred.

That and some that didn’t go extinct evolved almost instantly into all new creatures, so can’t be found in the later layers is all.

Not when you consider ruin/restoration theory.

A very good theory I am partial to. Mainly because of “hayah” the second word in the second verse of Genesis. Showing the earth “became” desolate and waste, and darkness “became” upon the surface of the deep. Hence the dinosaurs died out and the creation of man began....

I agree there have been five destructions and six creations, with man being part of the sixth. Soon there will be a sixth destruction and a seventh and final creation. Hence the 666 in the Bible. Man being part of the sixth creation on the sixth day of it and the cause of the sixth destruction to come..... only then will there be a seventh creation, with all new life forms created, like a lion-like creature that eats straw......

 

[Jimmy D]

Thank you for making my point: There are no Dodo fossils, only subfossils.

I was providing an example of fossils forming today - I am aware what sub-fossils are by the way.

What is your point exactly? And what has it got to do with the OP?

 

[AV1611VET]

But, anyway, back to the thread's topic, shall we?

Sure thing.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[AV1611VET]

But, cut the crap, in the meantime you better stay on topic:

Gladly.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Fair enough.

Here's an answer to part of your challenge:

Your fossil record doesn't "unambiguously depict a change in biodiversity" -- except on paper.

All it does is show what fossils settled where.

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

So, god put tubes in the earth and crammed dino's in it?
Did he do that Last Thursday by any chance?

;-)

 

[AV1611VET]

Did he do that Last Thursday by any chance?

Are you saying Last Thursday can be emulated with marshmallows, an inner tube, and a swimming pool?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Are you saying Last Thursday can be emulated with marshmallows, an inner tube, and a swimming pool?

I'm saying your objections are senseless.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm saying your objections are senseless.

It's not an objection.

It's a natural way to explain the fossil record as an aftermath of the Flood.

 

[DogmaHunter]

It's not an objection.

It's a natural way to explain the fossil record as an aftermath of the Flood.

No. It's an ad hoc fantasy that only serves as a rather desperate attempt to clinge to a faith based story.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. It's an ad hoc fantasy that only serves as a rather desperate attempt to clinge to a faith based story.

Oh ... so that scenario can't be tested under controlled conditions?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Oh ... so that scenario can't be tested under controlled conditions?

what scenario?

 

[AV1611VET]

what scenario?

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

 

[DogmaHunter]

1. Put an inner tube into a swimming pool.
2. Now pour in some marshmallows.
3. Now dump some dirt into the pool.

What's going to happen?

The dirt will take the marshmallows to the bottom with it first.

IF the dirt takes the inner tube with it, it will eventually break free and resurface.

4. Now saturate the pool with dirt and allow it to solidify.

What does your record show?

Marshmallows on the bottom; inner tube halfway down.

And that's supposed to be analogous to the fossilization process?