The flood is impossible.

[Targ]

I'd like to point out that amongst Bible scholars, there is considerable dispute about the meaning of the big numbers. Some people believe the numbers (e.g. 600,000) are accurate, whereas others believe that 'thousand' should in some cases be translated as 'families', for example 22,600 people would become '22 families of 600 people'. I don't have all of the details of the dispute, and therefore can't comment either way, but I'm just throwing it out there that it's not absolutely rock solid that there were 600,000 or so involved in the Exodus. I am not persuaded either way, so I'm not going to defend either view.

 

[driewerf]

I'd like to point out that amongst Bible scholars, there is considerable dispute about the meaning of the big numbers. Some people believe the numbers (e.g. 600,000) are accurate, whereas others believe that 'thousand' should in some cases be translated as 'families', for example 22,600 people would become '22 families of 600 people'. I don't have all of the details of the dispute, and therefore can't comment either way, but I'm just throwing it out there that it's not absolutely rock solid that there were 600,000 or so involved in the Exodus. I am not persuaded either way, so I'm not going to defend either view.

Don't spoil the fun, will ya?

I want to see biblical literalists struggle with this. Aspecially people like AV1611VET who think the KJV translation is more acurate than the hebrew original.

 

[AV1611VET]

You just repeated the claim, you didn't explain it.

But again, if we work with the math Vatis provided (and used by creationists!) the we get

400/150=2.666667 (let us take 3)
70*2^3=560.

After 400 years, the 70 jews that went to Egypt should be only 560. We are very far from 600.000

God can multiply too:

Genesis 16:10 ¶ And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

Genesis 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

Genesis 26:24 And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't spoil the fun, will ya?

I want to see biblical literalists struggle with this. Aspecially people like AV1611VET who think the KJV translation is more acurate than the hebrew original.

No struggle at all if you're using the right Calculator.

 

[driewerf]

God can multiply too:

Genesis 16:10 ¶ And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

Genesis 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

Genesis 26:24 And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake.

So, three quotes taken completely out of context will save the day?

After looking up the quotes, it seems the three have to do with Abraham and his family, nothing with the jews being in Egypt.

So, haven't yet explained how 8 survivors of the Flood can have an offsping of 600.000 in less than 1000 years.
Neither have you explained how the 70 jews that went to Egypt growed untill 600.000 in 400 years.

But you have showed a huge direspect for your own holy book by quote mining it and you have showed a huge intellectual dishonnesty by presenting an answer that is clearly inadequat.

You're losing this debate, AV1611VET.

edit: I think about something: these verses are just god promessing something, not actually doing something.

 

[driewerf]

No struggle at all if you're using the right Calculator.

No, sir, no.
The outcome will be the same, what ever the calculator you use.

Again, you 're losing the debate.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're losing this debate, AV1611VET.

Oh, well -- it won't be the first time, will it?

 

[driewerf]

Oh, well -- it won't be the first time, will it?

No, indeed.
Pitty it doesn't make a bell ring, that your literal interpretation of the bible is clearly not tenable.