The first resurection

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(Pastor John Otis on the Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven.)



First, Jesus specifically NAMED the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Mat 22:2. Do you REJECT what Jesus specifically NAMED?
Or do you think Jesus was lying? Was Jesus a dispensationalist?


Second, Jesus NAMED the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Mat 13 (in 8 verses). Do you REJECT what Jesus
specifically NAMED? Do you think Jesus was lying?
Was Jesus a dispensationalist?


Third, Jesus specifically NAMED the Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] Do you REJECT what
Jesus specifically NAMED? Or do you think Jesus was lying?
Was Jesus a dispensationalist?


And Jesus specifically NAMED the Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven"
in Matthew chapters 5 and 7 and 8 and 19. While the previous
Kingdoms were (a) temporal and (b) contained both saved
people and unsaved people... "wheat and tares"... the
Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven" was not temporal and
contained ONLY the Saints.


The ONLY "Kingdom of Heaven" that Jesus did NOT
specifically name is the (1st) Pre-Flood Kingdom that
contained all the Saints from Adam to Noah. But, of course
we all (should) know they are PART of the Eternal "Kingdom"



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The phrase "Kingdom of Heaven" is used thirty-three (33)
times in the Bible and every time the phrase represents
the many unsaved "tares" and/or the few saved "wheat",
associated with preaching the "Word of the Kingdom"
(the Gospel) during one of the FOUR KINGDOMS on earth...
or it represents ONLY the saved "wheat" harvested into
the (5th) Eternal "Kingdom of Heaven".

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The four "Kingdoms of Heaven" are physical and temporal
Kingdoms... and there's a "harvest" of Saints at the end of
each, with the "Final Harvest" including only the "Wise Virgins"
living during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1]

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The phrase "Kingdom of God" is used seventy (70) times
in the Bible and every time it represents the Holy Spirit of God
and/or the souls (but not the bodies) of the saved "wheat"
who have been regenerated by His "indwelling" Holy Spirit.
To be clear, the "Kingdom of God" is a SUBSET of
the "Kingdom of Heaven" since it only includes the saved
"wheat", not the unsaved "tares".


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Therefore, the Bible can use the phrases interchangeably
when it focuses only on the "wheat" within the Kingdom.
When focused only on the "wheat", the Bible can use
"Kingdom of Heaven" OR "Kingdom of God". And that

is why we have several parallel passages in the Bible
that can (and do) interchange these two phrases.


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Sir, you have said NOTHING.
Any child of 8 can cut-and-paste verses.

Let's try this again...

You posted Rev 17:14 and I asked you to tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them".

Let me explain something to you. Rev 17 is NOT
talking about people/events that are not discussed
in DOZENS of other passages. So simply tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them" and then
we can TEST your theory against other SCRIPTURES
that are talking about the SAME people/events.

See how "harmony of Scripture" works?
It is the ONLY measure of Biblical Truth.

Now... if you really KNOW who "they" and "them"
represent in Rev 17 then it is no problem for you
to simply identify them... can you do that?

Or do you only deal in abstract concepts?
Do you imagine the FULFILLMENT of prophecy
is simply an abstract concept? Or that ANY opinion
is equally valid? Is THAT what you imagine?

Tell me... WHO are "they" and "them"?


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We are talking about the people/events in Rev 17:14.
Please take the time to carefully READ post #447

Please do not ignore the post because it EXPLAINS
the people/events of Rev 17 and the FACT that it is really
a New Testament commentary on Daniel's Four Beasts.
[Dan 7]


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Sir, you have said NOTHING.
Any child of 8 can cut-and-paste verses.

Let's try this again...

You posted Rev 17:14 and I asked you to tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them".

Let me explain something to you. Rev 17 is NOT
talking about people/events that are not discussed
in DOZENS of other passages. So simply tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them" and then
we can TEST your theory against other SCRIPTURES
that are talking about the SAME people/events.

See how "harmony of Scripture" works?
It is the ONLY measure of Biblical Truth.

Now... if you really KNOW who "they" and "them"
represent in Rev 17 then it is no problem for you
to simply identify them... can you do that?

Or do you only deal in abstract concepts?
Do you imagine the FULFILLMENT of prophecy
is simply an abstract concept? Or that ANY opinion
is equally valid? Is THAT what you imagine?

Tell me... WHO are "they" and "them"?


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We are talking about the people/events in Rev 17:14.
Please take the time to carefully READ post #447

Please do not ignore the post because it EXPLAINS
the people/events of Rev 17 and the FACT that it is really
a New Testament commentary on Daniel's Four Beasts.
[Dan 7]


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Sir, you have said NOTHING.
Any child of 8 can cut-and-paste verses.

Let's try this again...

You posted Rev 17:14 and I asked you to tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them".

Let me explain something to you. Rev 17 is NOT
talking about people/events that are not discussed
in DOZENS of other passages. So simply tell me
WHO is represented by "they" and "them" and then
we can TEST your theory against other SCRIPTURES
that are talking about the SAME people/events.

See how "harmony of Scripture" works?
It is the ONLY measure of Biblical Truth.

Now... if you really KNOW who "they" and "them"
represent in Rev 17 then it is no problem for you
to simply identify them... can you do that?

Or do you only deal in abstract concepts?
Do you imagine the FULFILLMENT of prophecy
is simply an abstract concept? Or that ANY opinion
is equally valid? Is THAT what you imagine?

Tell me... WHO are "they" and "them"?


/


Here are are some of my thoughts on some of this, right or wrong. These events and the way they connect with each other are far more involved that what I threw together below, though. This is just a rough outline, then.


Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.



Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


These shall make war with the Lamb---the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse---and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings---And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth----and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful----his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints---the armies which were in heaven---clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

What I have underlined all of that is referring to the wife that has made herself ready.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming


And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming----And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The Wicked is not meaning satan like some allege. The Wicked are meaning the ones who shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, they are meaning the remnant in Revelation 19:21.
 
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Here are are some of my thoughts on some of this, right or wrong. These events and the way they connect with each other are far more involved that what I threw together below, though. This is just a rough outline, then.


Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.



Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


These shall make war with the Lamb---the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse---and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings---And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth----and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful----his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints---the armies which were in heaven---clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

What I have underlined all of that is referring to the wife that has made herself ready.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming


And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming----And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

The Wicked is not meaning satan like some allege. The Wicked are meaning the ones who shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, they are meaning the remnant in Revelation 19:21.


I only have a minute here so let me

(a) Encourage you to read Post #447 because
it deals with the CONTEXT of Rev 17.

(b) Explain the Context of Rev 19 tomorrow.
I don't have much free time today. Essentially it's
the saved saints (shown as birds) eating the
"supper" as promised.

(c) Remind you that the CONTEXT of the Revelation Beast
is the same people/events of the "ten virgins"... which
represents the LAST "wheat and tares" on earth.
The people of the Great Tribulation Kingdom.

And they are the same people/events of the "ten kings"
and the "ten horns" of BOTH Daniel 7 and Revelation 17

And they are the same people/events as those during
the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
[Mat 25:1-13]

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So when you look for "harmony of Scripture"
about EACH perspective on the Last "wheat and tares"
you find a precise understanding of WHAT was happening
during the (4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"

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Here are are some of my thoughts on some of this, right or wrong. These events and the way they connect with each other are far more involved that what I threw together below, though. This is just a rough outline, then.


Revelation 17:14
These [who are these people?] shall make war with the Lamb,
and the Lamb shall overcome them [the "ten virgins"]: for he is
Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him
[all the saints] are called, and chosen, and faithful.


I could not encourage you enough to read
Post #447 because it EXPLAINS clearly
the CONTEXT of the passage.



Let's see if we can provide a little perspective here:


Rev 17:12-17
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
[these are the same people as the "ten virgins" of the
Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" and the "ten kings"
and "the horns" of Daniel 7... so the Bible provides TONS
of CONTEXT on these people]
which have received
no kingdom as yet
[because the "ten virgins" did not
have a "kingdom" until Satan is "loosened" and the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" begins.
That is when the "ten virgins" actually "went forth"
from the Christian Kingdom and FOLLOWED the
"Little Horn" [Dan 7] or the Anti-Christ... during the
Revelation Beast. In fact, these SAME PEOPLE helped
the Little Horn/Anti-Christ "set-up" or "place" Daniel's
"Abomination of Desolation" [Dan 7, 8, 12] AND these
same "ten kings" and "ten horns" all "agree to give their
kingdom to the Beast" in Rev 17:12-13 and 17:17].
So AGAIN the Bible provides TONS of CONTEXT on
these ten "kings/horns/virgins"... the Last Saints.]

but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
[Again, the ten "horns/kings/virgins" only RULE the
(4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom. They do not RULE
in the (3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven"]

These [ten "kings/horns/virgins"] have one mind,
and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
These [ten "kings/horns/virgins"] shall make war with the
Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord
of lords, and King of kings:
and they that are with him
are called, and chosen, and faithful [all the saints].
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest,
where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes,
and nations, and tongues. [both Jew and Gentile... they
are the people in EACH of the "Kingdoms of Heaven". The
Pre-Flood Saints, the Jewish Saints, the Christian Saints and
the ten "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom... who
are the Last Saints]
And the ten horns which thou sawest
upon the beast [the ten "kings/horns/virgins"], these shall

hate the harlot [Satan's kingdom in the church or the
Christian Beast], and shall make her desolate and naked,
and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.[the Gospel
of the Anti-Christ and the ten "kings/horns/virgins" during the
Revelation Beast was that the church was corrupt and that
salvation was found with the Anti-Christ and NOT the church]

For God hath put in their hearts [the "kings/horns/virgins"]
to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom
unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

[The ten virgins supported the Anti-Christ during the FIRST
Revelation Beast - then they were "killed" at the appointed
year/month/day/hour [Rev 9:15-18]. While the unsaved
"foolish virgins" continued following the Anti-Christ during
the SECOND Beast [Rev 9:20-21], the "wise virgins"
did NOT follow the Second Beast. God had "forsaken"
them during the First Woe but gathered them during
the Second Woe and "harvested" them BEFORE the
end of the Revelation Beast [Rev 18:, 11:12]


So THAT is the CONTEXT of the "they" and "them"
of Rev 17:14... it is the ten "kings/horns/virgins"
who RULED the (4th) Great Tribulation Kingdom
or Daniel's Fourth Beast or the Revelation Beast...
(as they "gave" their Kingdom to the Beast).

The CONTEXT of the (4th) Great Tribulation
"Kingdom of Heaven" is EXCLUSIVE to the
"ten virgins" that "went forth" from the
(3rd) Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" into the
(4th) Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven".

And the POINT (purpose) of the Fourth Beast
was to bring Judgment on the "ten virgins".
As Judgment BEGINS at the "House of God".


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The CONTEXT of 1 Peter 4:17
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For the time is come that Judgment must BEGIN
at the House of God [both the "wheat and Tares"]:
and if it [God's Judgment] FIRST begin with us
[begins with the saved "wheat"], what shall the end
be of them that obey not the Gospel of God
[the unsaved "tares"] 18 And if the righteous
[the saved "wheat"] scarcely be saved, where
shall the ungodly and the sinner [unsaved "tares"]
appear?

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The purpose of Daniel's Fourth "Kingdom of Heaven"
was to (first) bring Judgment on the "Wise Virgins",
or all the living Saints. This is shown in 1 Pe
4 as being both the "us" [in verse 17] and then as
"the righteous" [in verse 18]. Then, after Judgment
on the Saints is finished, God separates the
"wheat and tares" and brings Judgment on the
"Anti-Christ" and "Foolish Virgins" (the Beast)...
which are represented by "them that obey not
the Gospel of God
" [in verse 17] and then by
"the ungodly and and the sinner" [in verse 18].

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Note: After the Great Commission is finished
(when all the "sheep" are found and saved)
Then God brings Judgment on the world,
but it's a process which follows this pattern:

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(1) First God brings Judgment on "the House of God"

(2) The Last Saints (wise virgins of Mat 25:1-13)
are Judged during the First Beast/First Woe

(3) The Last of the unsaved "tares" (foolish virgins)
are Judged during the Second Beast/Second Woe

(4) The Last Saints are called to "Come-up Here"
BEFORE the Second Woe is finished (important)

(5) God brings Judgment on those OUTSIDE of
"the House of God" (the world)

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While there are MANY passages that talk about
the EVENTS occurring AFTER the end of the
Great Commission of the Christian "Kingdom"
and MANY passages about the Fourth Kingdom
ruled by the ten "kings/horns/virgins" that all
"agree to give their Kingdom to the Beast"...
there are FEW passages about Judgment on
those OUTSIDE of the "House of God".

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Here is the BOTTOM LINE:
The Last Saints preach about these things
during the "Season and Time" on earth
AFTER the Revelation Beast is destroyed
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound".
This is information that remained "closed-up"
and "sealed" to all previous Saints. But the
Bible PROMISED the Last Saints "shall understand"
these Biblical mysteries [Dan 12:4 and 12:8-10]
and the Lord PROMISED the Last Saints "shall see"
the fulfillment of ALL Great Tribulation prophecies
("signs") [Mat 24:15 and 24:33]... AND these
Last Saints would PREACH these mysteries
as the Seventh Trumpet "begins to sound"
[Rev 10:7-11]

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These shall make war with the Lamb---the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse---and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings---And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth----and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful----his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints---the armies which were in heaven---clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

What I have underlined all of that is referring to the wife that has made herself ready.


Yes, as we saw above the "Bride" is the LAST FIRST...
the ten "kings/horns/virgins" are commanded to
"Come up Here" [Rev 11:12] and they are TAKEN
into the "marriage" before the "Door was Shut"

Mat 25:10
And while they [foolish virgins] went to buy,
the bridegroom [Jesus] came; and they that were ready
[the wise virgins] went in with him to the marriage:
and the door was shut.

Obviously the "Door was Shut" after the "Final Harvest"
of the "kings/horns/virgins" of the Fourth Kingdom and
the "marriage" is finished.

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In Revelation 18

the destruction of the Fourth Kingdom is shown [v.2]
as "Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints, immediately before the destruction of Babylon,
is shown [v.4] as the Lord Commands the Last Saints
to "Come out of her, My people". And Saints are told
[v.20] to "rejoice" over the destruction of Babylon
for "God hath avenged you on her".

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In Revelation 19
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.20] as the
False Prophet and Revelations Beast are "cast alive"
into the eternal "Lake-of-Fire". The "Final Harvest"
immediately before destruction of the "great harlot"
[v.2] is shown as the Saints are commanded [v.17]
to "gather yourselves together unto the SUPPER of
the Great God
". Then again [v.9] the "Final Harvest"
is shown when the Saints are "called unto the
MARRIAGE SUPPER of the Lamb
". And once more
we see [v.2] that, when God destroys the Kingdom
of "Babylon the Great", He also "hath avenged the
blood of His servants
".

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In Revelation 11
the destruction of Babylon is shown [v.13] as a
"great earthquake", and the "Final Harvest" is shown
[v.12] as the Last Saints are commanded to
"Come up hither". And they "ascended up to heaven
in a cloud
". Again the "Final Harvest" is shown occurring
immediately before destruction of the Fourth Beast.
However, this time, the Bible reveals [v.14] the TIME
for fulfillment of this event - just before the end of
the "Second Woe"... that is important.

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In Daniel 7
the destruction of the Fourth Beast is shown [v.11]
when "the Beast was slain, and his body destroyed,
and given to the Burning Flame". The "Final Harvest"
of Saints is shown [v.18] as "the Saints of the Most High
shall take the Kingdom, and possess the Kingdom forever,
even for ever and ever
". Again, the "Final Harvest"
of the Great Tribulation Saints is shown [v.22] when
"Judgment was given to the Saints of the Most High;
and the time came that the Saints possessed the

[eternal] Kingdom".

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Again, the POINT is the Bible gives MANY different
perspectives of the SAME people/events and these
all must be harmonized before anyone can claim to
have found more than partial-truth. In fact, God
never intended Saints in the Jewish Kingdom to
understand the END of their Kingdom and God
never intended Saints in the Christian Kingdom to
understand the Great Tribulation "kings/horns/virgins"
of the Revelation Beast or the "Season and Time"
on earth AFTER the Beast was destroyed and the
"wise virgins" were commanded to "Come up hither".

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The Bible teaches we have been raised "with Christ", whom the Bible also teaches is the firsfruits of the bodily resurrection to come.

This is because all (except Christ) who are born into the world, are in Adam, and Adam in them. Adam died spiritually, so we are born dead spiritually, because we are born into Adam.

Those who are born of the Spirit are in Christ, the last Adam, and He in them (John 14:20 and John 15:5). And so it is written, "The first man, Adam, was made a living soul (psuche)," the last Adam was a life-giving Spirit (pneuma). 1 Corinthians 15:45.

Therefore all who are in Christ are in Christ because they are born of the Spirit, and so are now in Him who was raised, and are therefore raised with Him.

With Him.

With Him.

We are only raised with Him because He is risen and we are in Him and He in us, therefore we now live in hope of our own resurrection, the redemption of our own bodies:

"In Him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by the putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised with Him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our trespasses," - Colossians 2:11-13

It is because we are born of the Spirit (not "resurrected spiritually" but born of the Spirit) that we are now found in Him and He in us.

But A-millennial theology has muddied it.

The scripture does not say that our being raised with Christ is "the first resurrection" at all - not even once. It says Christ is the firstfruits of the resurrection, and because He is risen, we will be raised by Him and through His resurrection - because we are in Him and He in us through our birth by His Spirit, which is the Spirit of the Son of Man who is the last Adam, who is risen.

We are only raised with Him because He is risen and we are in Him and He in us, therefore we now live in hope of our resurrection, the redemption of our bodies:

And not only so, but ourselves also, who have the firstfruit of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, awaiting adoption, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen is not hope; for what anyone sees, why does he also hope for it? But if we hope for that which we do not see, then we wait for it with patience. (Romans 8:23-25).

We are waiting in hope for our resurrection because we are in Him who is raised and who is become the firstfruits of the resurrection from the dead.

The A-milennial understanding has been muddied by the fact that A-millenialists have read "first resurrection" into the phrase "born again"
 
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Let's take a look at the following two Greek words used in the New Testament which mean "to be raised up":

1. Egeiro

Firstly, there are quite a few verses containing the Greek word egeiro where the context of the verse is clearly not referring to any resurrection, for example:

Acts 13:21-22 "And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.

And when he had removed him, he raised up (Greek egeiro) unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."

Note: The word egeiro in Acts 13:22 is not speaking of the resurrection. Neither is it referring to the resurrection when used in the verse which follows it, even though it's speaking of Christ:

Acts 13:23 "Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised (egeiro) unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:"

It is clear by the context that the above verse is not referring to the resurrection of Jesus.

Neither is the Greek word egeiro referring to the resurrection when used in the verses below:

Acts 12:7 "And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised (egeiro) him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands."

Acts 3:6-7 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up (egeiro) and walk. And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up (egeiro): and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

Acts 10:25-26 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up (egeiro), saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man."

Again, the word egeiro is not referring to the resurrection in any of the above verses.

The context of the verse always shows whether or not egeiro is referring to the resurrection.

2. Anastasis

In contrast to the above, every single time the Greek word anastasis is used in the verses below, it is clear by the context that it's referring specifically and unambiguously to the bodily resurrection of the dead. The verses are:

Matthew 22:31; Luke 20:35-36; Acts 1:22; Acts 2:31; Acts 4:33; Romans 6:5; Philippians 3:10.

There is no "spiritual resurrection" in that.
 
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Let's take a look at the following two Greek words used in the New Testament which mean "to be raised up":

1. Egeiro

Firstly, there are quite a few verses containing the Greek word egeiro where the context of the verse is clearly not referring to any resurrection, for example:

Acts 13:21-22 "And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.

And when he had removed him, he raised up (Greek egeiro) unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."

Note: The word egeiro in Acts 13:22 is not speaking of the resurrection. Neither is it referring to the resurrection when used in the verse which follows it, even though it's speaking of Christ:

Acts 13:23 "Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised (egeiro) unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:"

It is clear by the context that the above verse is not referring to the resurrection of Jesus.

Neither is the Greek word egeiro referring to the resurrection when used in the verses below:

Acts 12:7 "And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised (egeiro) him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands."

Acts 3:6-7 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up (egeiro) and walk. And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up (egeiro): and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

Acts 10:25-26 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up (egeiro), saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man."

Again, the word egeiro is not referring to the resurrection in any of the above verses.

The context of the verse always shows whether or not egeiro is referring to the resurrection.

2. Anastasis

In contrast to the above, every single time the Greek word anastasis is used in the verses below, it is clear by the context that it's referring specifically and unambiguously to the bodily resurrection of the dead. The verses are:

Matthew 22:31; Luke 20:35-36; Acts 1:22; Acts 2:31; Acts 4:33; Romans 6:5; Philippians 3:10.

There is no "spiritual resurrection" in that.

I've come to learn who these blessed people are in the first resurrection after I learned who the beast is. I truly think it's as beautiful ending to a very long love story. Though I do not partake in this first resurrection, I'm still thankful to have known the Lord. I expect after the first resurrection has taken place, few people would understand it.
 
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I've come to learn who these blessed people are in the first resurrection after I learned who the beast is. I truly think it's as beautiful ending to a very long love story. Though I do not partake in this first resurrection, I'm still thankful to have known the Lord. I expect after the first resurrection has taken place, few people would understand it.
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Let's take a look at the following two Greek words used in the New Testament which mean "to be raised up":

1. Egeiro

Firstly, there are quite a few verses containing the Greek word egeiro where the context of the verse is clearly not referring to any resurrection, for example:

Acts 13:21-22 "And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.

And when he had removed him, he raised up (Greek egeiro) unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."

Note: The word egeiro in Acts 13:22 is not speaking of the resurrection. Neither is it referring to the resurrection when used in the verse which follows it, even though it's speaking of Christ:

Acts 13:23 "Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised (egeiro) unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:"

It is clear by the context that the above verse is not referring to the resurrection of Jesus.

Neither is the Greek word egeiro referring to the resurrection when used in the verses below:

Acts 12:7 "And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised (egeiro) him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands."

Acts 3:6-7 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up (egeiro) and walk. And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up (egeiro): and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

Acts 10:25-26 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up (egeiro), saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man."

Again, the word egeiro is not referring to the resurrection in any of the above verses.

The context of the verse always shows whether or not egeiro is referring to the resurrection.

2. Anastasis

In contrast to the above, every single time the Greek word anastasis is used in the verses below, it is clear by the context that it's referring specifically and unambiguously to the bodily resurrection of the dead. The verses are:

Matthew 22:31; Luke 20:35-36; Acts 1:22; Acts 2:31; Acts 4:33; Romans 6:5; Philippians 3:10.

There is no "spiritual resurrection" in that.

Because Premillennialism, by its very nature, requires a hyper-literal approach to Revelation 20, they do not have the luxury of approaching that chapter objectively. They cannot take context into consideration. They cannot take genre into consideration. They cannot take apocalyptic language into consideration. They cannot take figurative language into consideration. They cannot let the rest of Scripture interprets that chapter, because to do so would negate its very existence. They must force a hyper-literal interpretation on a highly-figurative passage. The result of their faulty hermeneutics is that they end up inventing a brand new age in between "this age" and "the age to come" that is unknown to the rest of Scripture. The reality is it does not exist. It is imaginary. It is fanciful.

I have showed you clear, compelling and consistent Scripture above that shows a figurative resurrection of God's people pertaining to their spiritual translation from death unto life. This is an explicit teaching for those who do not have a theological agenda. Premillennialist have to deny the obvious in order for their doctrine to survive.

This spiritual resurrection occurs to all those who identify with Christ in His first resurrection when He conquered sin, death, Hades and Satan. His sinless life, His atoning death and His glorious resurrection secured the full and eternal freedom of all His elect. This union with Christ raises us from the grave of our sin and allows us to be currently seated in heavenly places in Christ. Through this majesty work, Christ emptied Hades and led captivity captive taking them to heaven to reign with Him until the physical resurrection at His coming.

Who is "the first resurrection" in Acts 26:23?
Who is "the firstborn from the dead" in Colossians 1:18?
Who is "the firstfruits of them that slept" in 1 Corinthians 15:20?
Who is "first begotten of the dead" in Revelation 1:5
 
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But A-millennial theology has muddied it.

The scripture does not say that our being raised with Christ is "the first resurrection" at all - not even once.


First... what would you call it when the BIBLE claims that
all the saints are translated from DEATH into LIFE?
Sounds like a "resurrection" to me.

Second... Understand this:
Revelation 20:4 and 20:6 are BOTH talking about the
Christian Saints (those who are "born again").


Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment
was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were
beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their
hands
; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


Rev 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:
on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be
priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a
thousand years.



Can you NOT SEE that the PEOPLE in v4 are the SAME PEOPLE
in v6? Is this a mystery to you?



Question #1:
WHEN does the second death hath no power over the saints?

Answer #1;
When they are "born again" or experience the first resurrection
of having their soul translated from DEATH into LIFE


Question #2
WHEN do the saints REIGN WITH CHRIST for 1000 years?
(a) Is it during the church age of the Christian Kingdom
(b) Is it AFTER Satan is "loosened" from the Bottomless Pit.

Scripture is VERY CLEAR that the END of Satan's "Little Season"
sees the Revelation Beast "cast alive into the Lake of Fire"



Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that
had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped
his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning
with brimstone
.


Question #3
Are you SURPRISED to learn the CHRISTIAN saints had to
reject the "Beast" and the "image" and the "mark" of the
Beast. Are you not aware there were FOUR BEASTS
on earth... and the saints of EACH Beast had to reject
the Beast (Kingdom of Satan) and the "image" and the
"mark" of that "Kingdom of Satan".

Answer #3
You should NOT be surprised to learn there are FOUR BEASTS
throughout history and EACH TIME the saints had to reject
the "Beast" and his "image" and his "mark"... but then,
you cannot DEFINE "Beast" or "image" or "mark".

So WHY do you talk like you can?


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Similar to SG, I hold that Christ is reigning now; The 1000 years being an expression of the completeness of that reign. However I have a different understanding of what 'the first resurrection' term means to the writer in this instance.

I'm familiar with how this expression is held by some to mean it occurs at conversion. However I feel the word-play used in this text -the phrase, 'the second death'- should point one to seeing 'the first resurrection' used here as being synonymous with that individual's violent death and their immediate entrance into heaven, to be with Christ, in victory.

One thing I'd like to point out is, if the Dispensationalist is consistent in their literal-thought rule that there are two physical resurrections of two different groups in view in this wider Rev. text, then there must also be two similar last-judgement-type deaths of two different groups of people at two different times.

i.e. the first death (being the contrast to 'the second death') of their body is the/their 'first resurrection'.
 
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