The Establishment, Propaganda Media Really Don't Want You to See 'Sound of Freedom

[Pommer]

Who attaches it to the movie? I haven't seen any of those references in the marketing.

I’ve seen TikTok’s where people visit “sold out showings” (according to online ticket sellers), but the theaters were completely or near empty.
Not a good strategy if the producers would like folks to “trust them” over other things.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Who attaches it to the movie? I haven't seen any of those references in the marketing.

Maybe “associated with” would’ve been a better description than “attached.”

If, during the theatrical run of Top Gun Maverick, Tom Cruise had made posts, gone on podcasts, etc espousing weird theories about the navy and fighter pilots, then I imagine most folks would have associated those ideas with the film, even if they weren’t contained within the film and he pushed those views “on his own time” so to speak.

I’ve seen TikTok’s where people visit “sold out showings” (according to online ticket sellers), but the theaters were completely or near empty.
Not a good strategy if the producers would like folks to “trust them” over other things.

oh that’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that.

 

[RDKirk]

Who attaches it to the movie?

Maybe “associated with” would’ve been a better description than “attached.”

If, during the theatrical run of Top Gun Maverick, Tom Cruise had made posts, gone on podcasts, etc espousing weird theories about the navy and fighter pilots, then I imagine most folks would have associated those ideas with the film, even if they weren’t contained within the film and he pushed those views “on his own time” so to speak.


oh that’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that.

Are you one of those "most folks?" If not, why are you arguing from that position?

 

[RDKirk]

I’ve seen TikTok’s where people visit “sold out showings” (according to online ticket sellers), but the theaters were completely or near empty.
Not a good strategy if the producers would like folks to “trust them” over other things.

I remember the same thing happening with "Hidden Figures" (a great movie) and "The Woman King" (a not-great movie).

 

[iluvatar5150]

Are you one of those "most folks?"

I'm not sure tbh.

 

[durangodawood]

I have some revulsion to overcome before seeing films where the star is associated with truly destructive beliefs like Q, or scientology.

...especially when the destructive belief dovetails with themes in the move.

 

[dzheremi]

Conspiratorial claptrap. Would that this nonsense be banned from CF forever. I hate having my religion and country aligned in the minds of millions around the world (Christian and non) with such naked insanity. Stop it. Stop imputing motives to those who don't buy into this garbage that better fit those who believe in it (read: the only brainwashing or propaganda going on with regard to Q-related stuff is affecting those who believe in it, not those who don't). It's not that I don't want to see the QAnon movie because the "establishment propaganda media" tells me not to (I've never even visited Rotten Tomatoes, and don't pay attention to what's hot one way or another); I don't want to see it because QAnon is dangerous, radicalizing junk for people with Trump cult brain worms, and I need to live in a world where things like Futurama stay satire, for the sake of my own sanity.

 

[Belk]

Unless the movie claims that's how most kids are being trafficked, that's a fake complaint.

I'm going to guess the people who fight sex trafficking who are making the complaint will not find your opinion convincing, but I do not speak for them so ... <shrug>

This is supposedly a movie about one particular true sequences of events.

Compare this movie to any other "based on a true story" movie...and your only complaint is "that's not how most abductions happen?"

That's like complaining about "Blackhawk Down" "That's now how most combat extractions happen."

Where were the liberal complaints about "The Woman King?"

I remember hearing some but I can't point to them specifically.

 

[essentialsaltes]

oh that’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that.

The film literally ends with Caviezel as Caviezel directly addressing the audience and a plug for people to pay it forward: buy future movie tickets that can be 'donated' to people. These tickets are being bought, but there isn't as much demand for people to claim them.

‘I’m not going to make $1’: The director of ‘Sound of Freedom’ breaks his silence​

[He gave up his 'points' when it didn't look like the film would ever see the light of day.]

Q There’s a direct message to theater audiences after the credits roll, delivered by Caviezel inside an emotional monologue about human trafficking. It asks viewers to scan a code on the screen to pay it forward by purchasing more tickets to the film. Why do that?

... Angel Studios came, saying, “We have a plan.” For me, as a storyteller, anything you put inside my movie that’s not mine is going to hurt me. It doesn’t matter what it is. So this was a matter of trust. They said, “Let us test it, and if the audience doesn’t like it, it’s out.”

Then I saw Jim’s conviction. His delivery was matching the spirit of the film. It really has an impact when you are right there, boom, and you send the ticket to a friend. That is action. Now, if you ask me, “Alejandro, if it was your [move], would you have that?” I will say no. But that’s why I’m not a distributor. If I was a distributor, I’d surely collapse the company because I’d be all about the art. So I respect and admire the work that Angel Studios does, because it’s not an easy movie to market. I’m so grateful to them.

Q Wouldn’t it have been more in line with the intent of the film to send donations to antitrafficking organizations rather than box-office sales?

What’s better? To raise mass awareness or send it to one organization? The problem is that internationally, there’s thousands of nonprofits doing this work. Do you send it to Guatemala? Somewhere here? But once people watch that film, they are so moved, we’re seeing their desire to want to do something about it. The more awareness you create, the better. To me, awareness creates change more than sending $20 to one [organization].

 

[Aldebaran]

I’m lost now…I don’t think that the film is controversial because how the “true-story” parts are portrayed but that there is a movement pushing this narrative that hordes of children are being abducted for nefarious purposes. If this is the “evidence” maybe a movie isn’t the best venue to broach the subject?

Why wouldn't it be? Hollywood has quite a public influence on public opinion. Al Gore went that route to promote his "global warming" opinions. Anti-gun themes are often promoted in movies. Many actors have made their political views obvious through the films they have starred in.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Perhaps you’ve glossed over my point?
Yes, we must all be aware of the dangers of unscrupulous people who think nothing of preying on our children; but we should also realize that most people will not harm or exploit children and [we] could do more damage by waging an unending war on the few.

Seriously? Nah, bro....let's save the few from trafficking and get the predators out of the way, as many as possible.

 

[Pommer]

Why wouldn't it be? Hollywood has quite a public influence on public opinion. Al Gore went that route to promote his "global warming" opinions. Anti-gun themes are often promoted in movies. Many actors have made their political views obvious through the films they have starred in.

You saw “An Inconvenient Truth”?

 

[Aldebaran]

You saw “An Inconvenient Truth”?

I see them all the time. I usually get called a conspiracy theorist for pointing them out though.

 

[Pommer]

I see them all the time. I usually get called a conspiracy theorist for pointing them out though.

I was asking about the real, actual movie that Albert Gore Jr caused to be released, not a vague solipsism of one type or another.

 

[FireDragon76]

Conservative Evangelical movies are almost uniformly bad. The last great religious film I saw was was Silence, a film by Martin Scorsese, a Catholic. Machine Gun Preacher also was OK, even though it took liberties with the subject matter.

 

[RDKirk]

Conservative Evangelical movies are almost uniformly bad. The last great religious film I saw was was Silence, a film by Martin Scorsese, a Catholic. Machine Gun Preacher also was OK, even though it took liberties with the subject matter.

When the message gets in the way of the story, message movies whether liberal or conservative are (except, of course, to the people who uncritically endorse the message).

 

[RDKirk]

Do you remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare of the 1980s-1990s?
That’s what I was thinking about; people were zealously prosecuted for heinous crimes that never occurred all in the name of “protecting the children”.

Oh, you're talking about a "Future Crimes Bureau" like the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report"?

Nobody is talking about something like that.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes. The worry (as I understand it) is that the vast majority of trafficking is not being abducted from a stranger as portrayed in this film. This is the exact same complaint that is against the real life protagonist from the movie. That he concentrates on high publicity "stunts" and ignores the hard work that comes in fighting trafficking as it is normally prosecuted.

So does every war movie. So does every cop movie. So, essentially, does every movie, even when they say "based on a true story." Well, especially when they say "based on a true story," because most true stories aren't exciting enough for a movie.

Everybody in the US Intelligence community laughs at the derring-do of Jack Ryan as a CIA intelligence officer, even though it was also clear someone in the Intelligence community was giving Clancey some background information.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Oh, you're talking about a "Future Crimes Bureau" like the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report"?

Nobody is talking about something like that.

No, I think he is referring to the hysteria about day cares and Satanic abuse in the 1980s and early 1990s. Many wild claims of abuse were made about various day care workers who were eventually found to be innocent. There were bizarre stories of animal sacrifices in churches and all sorts of tales that were not true.

 

[Belk]

So does every war movie. So does every cop movie. So, essentially, does every movie, even when they say "based on a true story." Well, especially when they say "based on a true story," because most true stories aren't exciting enough for a movie.

And every war has its real world detractors. Their point of view is valid and if they claimed war movies furthered stereotypes that are damaging to efforts at peace they would not be wrong. Just because the movie does not track to the real world does not mean it can not be damaging to a cause.