The Errors of Replacement Theology

[keras]

Classic "replacement theology" as taught traditionally in the Roman Catholic Church and some Protestant denominations is not biblically accurate. But neither is the view of their main opponents who advocate Messianic Judaism. The good figs of Judah -namely, the Apostles and those Jewish Christians who followed Jesus; formed the trunk of the "tree" of New Testament Christianity. This fig tree producing good fruits, following Jesus the King of Judah, retained the right to be called by the tribal name of Judah. They are the "true Jews," as it were.

Jeremiah 24:1-10 shows that God sees the nation of Judah as a fig tree and the nation was actually divided into two groups of people-those whose fruits were very good, and those whose fruits were very bad. This is really no different from any other nation, for there is not a nation in the world that has all righteous people or all unrighteous people. But in the case of Judah it is a matter of divine separation into two distinct fig trees, because God intended to treat them differently. He intended to give Judah’s dominion mandate to those who produced good fruit, and at the same time He intended to disinherit those who produced bad fruit.

Jesus Himself produced good fruit. He was born of a Judahite mother, as proven in the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3. But as the King of Judah, He was more than just a fig branch that was producing good fruit.. He was the root of the tree, to which were attached various branches that bore good fruit. Jesus said as much when He used a slightly different motif of the vine and branches. John 15:1-6 says,

I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it, that it may bear more fruit... I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

It is clear from this that only those who abide in Christ will bear the type of fruit that God is seeking. If one claims to be in Christ, but does not produce these fruits of the Kingdom, he is cut off. And " if anyone does not abide in Me," Jesus says, " he is thrown away as a branch and dries up. " Surely He had in mind those Jews who had rejected Him as Messiah. Only a few days earlier, Jesus had cursed the fig tree, and the disciples had marveled that it had dried up by the following morning. He was saying, then, that the people who produced no fruit-or, as Jeremiah put it, those who produced only bad figs that could not be eaten-would be cut off.

This is precisely what happened. Judah split into two factions, or two "trees." Those who accepted Jesus as Messiah became the branches of the good fig tree. These were the inheritors of the dominion mandate given to Judah. Of these, Jesus said He would prune them in order that they would bring forth even more fruit.

Those who refused to accept Jesus as Messiah were cut off and are no longer inheritors of the dominion mandate. Jesus clearly said that there is no way that anyone can bear the proper fruit apart from being attached to Christ.
Ref: Stephen Jones

 

[Quasar92]

Posted in error.

 

[Quasar92]

Posted in error.

 

[Quasar92]

Predictable Zionist propaganda, with not one New Testament reference anywhere to be seen or heard.

Genetically, the Israel of the Bible was a subset of the human race.

Genetically, the Israel of today is present within the whole human race. This is a natural result of the historical scatterings that are repeatedly referenced within the video, and is today acknowledged, welcomed, and applauded by the religious and cultural Jewish community, as being a literal fulfillment of the Abrahamic promises.

Abraham lineage

DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?

Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places

But God's favor and blessing have never been based on DNA. He has always had but two criteria.

Faith and obedience.

It is also enlightening to view the video which immediately follows the forgoing, as former President Jimmy Carter describes Israeli anti-Palestinian apartheid and human rights abuses.

That the people from every race are genetically connected to Israel, is a king sized fairy tale! Where does such nonsense come from? The only connection between the Gentile and the Jews of Israel, is through the baptism by the Holy Spirit, from Jesus, making both, members of His body, the Church, as recorded in 1 Cor.12:12-13!

Other than that, Israel and t5he Church will remain separate entities, until Jn.10:16 is fulfilled during Jesus 1,000 year reign on earth, as recorded in
Rev.20:6.


Quasar92

 

[jgr]

That the people from every race are genetically connected to Israel, is a king sized fairy tale! Where does such nonsense come from?

Did you read the links?

It comes from the "Jewish" community itself, substantiated by genetic science.

Unsurprisingly, science is an alien concept to the dispensational mind obsessed with preserving the Two Peoples of God fallacy.

You've just accused your beloved earthly Chosen People of nonsense. They'll be offended.

You should apologize to them.

 

[precepts]

Classic "replacement theology" as taught traditionally in the Roman Catholic Church and some Protestant denominations is not biblically accurate. But neither is the view of their main opponents who advocate Messianic Judaism. The good figs of Judah -namely, the Apostles and those Jewish Christians who followed Jesus; formed the trunk of the "tree" of New Testament Christianity. This fig tree producing good fruits, following Jesus the King of Judah, retained the right to be called by the tribal name of Judah. They are the "true Jews," as it were.

Jeremiah 24:1-10 shows that God sees the nation of Judah as a fig tree and the nation was actually divided into two groups of people-those whose fruits were very good, and those whose fruits were very bad. This is really no different from any other nation, for there is not a nation in the world that has all righteous people or all unrighteous people. But in the case of Judah it is a matter of divine separation into two distinct fig trees, because God intended to treat them differently. He intended to give Judah’s dominion mandate to those who produced good fruit, and at the same time He intended to disinherit those who produced bad fruit.

Jesus Himself produced good fruit. He was born of a Judahite mother, as proven in the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3. But as the King of Judah, He was more than just a fig branch that was producing good fruit.. He was the root of the tree, to which were attached various branches that bore good fruit. Jesus said as much when He used a slightly different motif of the vine and branches. John 15:1-6 says,

I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it, that it may bear more fruit... I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

It is clear from this that only those who abide in Christ will bear the type of fruit that God is seeking. If one claims to be in Christ, but does not produce these fruits of the Kingdom, he is cut off. And " if anyone does not abide in Me," Jesus says, " he is thrown away as a branch and dries up. " Surely He had in mind those Jews who had rejected Him as Messiah. Only a few days earlier, Jesus had cursed the fig tree, and the disciples had marveled that it had dried up by the following morning. He was saying, then, that the people who produced no fruit-or, as Jeremiah put it, those who produced only bad figs that could not be eaten-would be cut off.

This is precisely what happened. Judah split into two factions, or two "trees." Those who accepted Jesus as Messiah became the branches of the good fig tree. These were the inheritors of the dominion mandate given to Judah. Of these, Jesus said He would prune them in order that they would bring forth even more fruit.

Those who refused to accept Jesus as Messiah were cut off and are no longer inheritors of the dominion mandate. Jesus clearly said that there is no way that anyone can bear the proper fruit apart from being attached to Christ.
Ref: Stephen Jones

Common sense dictates that if a new covenant was established, the old covenant is no more, what the scriptures specifically says. Yet you people continue to lean on your reading miscomprehensions of a book that is supposedly unread.

 

[Quasar92]

Common sense dictates that if a new covenant was established, the old covenant is no more, what the scriptures specifically says. Yet you people continue to lean on your reading miscomprehensions of a book that is supposedly unread.

Jesus holds another view:

Mt.5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."


Quasar92

 

[BABerean2]

Jesus holds another view:

Mt.5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."


Quasar92

Are you claiming that Christ did not fulfill every letter of the Old Covenant during His earthly ministry?

Are you claiming we are still under the Old Covenant, instead of the New Covenant?

Acts 15:24

Hebrews 8:13

Galatians 3:16-29

Galatians 4:24-31

Hebrews 7:12

Hebrews 12:18-24

2 Corinthians 3:6-8

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[jgr]

Jesus holds another view:

Mt.5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

And it was.

Luke 24
25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures

Acts 13
29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.

 

[precepts]

Jesus holds another view:

Mt.5:18 "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."


Quasar92

Christ fulfilled the old testament, to put it a better way.

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

- It is no more, vanished away, was fulfilled by the blood of Christ.

 

[Quasar92]

Are you claiming that Christ did not fulfill every letter of the Old Covenant during His earthly ministry?

Are you claiming we are still under the Old Covenant, instead of the New Covenant?

Acts 15:24

Hebrews 8:13

Galatians 3:16-29

Galatians 4:24-31

Hebrews 7:12

Hebrews 12:18-24

2 Corinthians 3:6-8

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The quote you responded to was from Jesus, in Mt.5:18, genius, not from me. You have an ongoing problem in the understanding of whether prophecy has been fulfilled or not. There are many who are still very much under the old covenant [Judaism], who have not accepted the tenets of the new covenant. Nor will they, until after Jesus second coming. There is nothing in the Mosaic law that has ever passed away.


Quasar92

 

[Quasar92]

The quote you responded to was from Jesus, in Mt.5:18, genius, not from me. You have an ongoing problem in the understanding of whether prophecy has been fulfilled or not. There are many who are still very much under the old covenant [Judaism], who have not accepted the tenets of the new covenant. Nor will they, until after Jesus second coming. There is nothing in the Mosaic law that has ever passed away.


Quasar92

What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

In Matthew’s record of what is commonly called the Sermon on the Mount, these words of Jesus are recorded: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” ([URL='https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Matt%205.17-18']Matthew 5:17-18).

It is frequently argued that if Jesus did not “abolish” the law, then it must still be binding. Accordingly, such components as the Sabbath-day requirement must be operative still, along with perhaps numerous other elements of the Mosaic Law. This assumption is grounded in a misunderstanding of the words and intent of this passage. Christ did not suggest here that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the balance of the New Testament (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

Of special significance in this study is the word rendered “abolish.” It translates the Greek term kataluo, literally meaning “to loosen down.” The word is found seventeen times in the New Testament. It is used, for example, of the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans (Matthew 26:61; 27:40; Acts 6:14), and of the dissolving of the human body at death (2 Corinthians 5:1). The term can carry the extended meaning of “to overthrow,” i.e., “to render vain, deprive of success.” In classical Greek, it was used in connection with institutions, laws, etc., to convey the idea of “to invalidate.”

It is especially important to note how the word is used in Matthew 5:17. In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, He revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.

If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ—and thus remains as a binding legal system for today—then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it. What Jesus' death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the other aspects of the law.

Recommended Resource:

The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology by Jason Meyer

Source: gotquestions.org


Quasar92[/URL]

 

[BABerean2]

The quote you responded to was from Jesus, in Mt.5:18, genius, not from me. You have an ongoing problem in the understanding of whether prophecy has been fulfilled or not. There are many who are still very much under the old covenant [Judaism], who have not accepted the tenets of the new covenant. Nor will they, until after Jesus second coming. There is nothing in the Mosaic law that has ever passed away.


Quasar92

If you think nothing in the Mosaic law has ever passed away, then you may want to explain why God ripped the temple veil in half at the moment His Son died at Calvary.

It sounds like you may attempting to promote the same idea of "Dual Covenant" theology as Pastor John Hagee, who claims that Jews do not need Jesus because they are under a different covenant.
Paul warned against this error in Galatians 1:6-9.

Either you are confused or the writer of the Book of Hebrews is confused.

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

The battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant of Christ began in Acts chapter 15 and continues to this day.
During most of that time the Judaisers have won the day.


Based on Galatians 3:16-29 the Sinai Covenant was temporary in nature.

It was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.


Pastor John Hagee (CUFI), let my people go!! - ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

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[BABerean2]

What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

In Matthew’s record of what is commonly called the Sermon on the Mount, these words of Jesus are recorded: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17-18).

It is frequently argued that if Jesus did not “abolish” the law, then it must still be binding. Accordingly, such components as the Sabbath-day requirement must be operative still, along with perhaps numerous other elements of the Mosaic Law. This assumption is grounded in a misunderstanding of the words and intent of this passage. Christ did not suggest here that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the balance of the New Testament (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

Of special significance in this study is the word rendered “abolish.” It translates the Greek term kataluo, literally meaning “to loosen down.” The word is found seventeen times in the New Testament. It is used, for example, of the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans (Matthew 26:61; 27:40; Acts 6:14), and of the dissolving of the human body at death (2 Corinthians 5:1). The term can carry the extended meaning of “to overthrow,” i.e., “to render vain, deprive of success.” In classical Greek, it was used in connection with institutions, laws, etc., to convey the idea of “to invalidate.”

It is especially important to note how the word is used in Matthew 5:17. In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, He revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law, which called for perfect obedience under threat of a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10, 13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.

If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came to do. On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish His goal, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ—and thus remains as a binding legal system for today—then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it. What Jesus' death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the other aspects of the law.

Recommended Resource:

The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology by Jason Meyer

Source: gotquestions.org


Quasar92

Make up your mind.
This post shows the complete error of the post that you made before it.
Either the Mosaic Law has passed away, or it has not.

Look at the title of the book you recommended and then read the review of the book.

The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology

Christ fulfilled every letter of the Old Covenant with the words, "It is finished."


In 2 Corinthians 3:6-8 Paul calls the Sinai Covenant "the ministry of death" engraved on stones.

In Galatians 4:24-31 Paul compels the Galatians believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage".

You made a statement in Post #31 and then proved it wrong in Post #32.

Did you change your mind in between the two posts?

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[Quasar92]

If you think nothing in the Mosaic law has ever passed away, then you may want to explain why God ripped the temple veil in half at the moment His Son died at Calvary.

It sounds like you may attempting to promote the same idea of "Dual Covenant" theology as Pastor John Hagee, who claims that Jews do not need Jesus because they are under a different covenant.
Paul warned against this error in Galatians 1:6-9.

Either you are confused or the writer of the Book of Hebrews is confused.

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

The battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant of Christ began in Acts chapter 15 and continues to this day.
During most of that time the Judaisers have won the day.


Based on Galatians 3:16-29 the Sinai Covenant was temporary in nature.

It was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.


Pastor John Hagee (CUFI), let my people go!! - ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

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As I previously told you, it was Jesus who told us nothing has been abrogated from the Law whatever, in my posts #31 and #32. All of your argument is with Jesus, not with me. I can only be the instrument to refute you by what He has said! Capiche?!


Quasar92

 

[Quasar92]

Make up your mind.
This post shows the complete error of the post that you made before it.
Either the Mosaic Law has passed away, or it has not.

Look at the title of the book you recommended and then read the review of the book.

The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology

Christ fulfilled every letter of the Old Covenant with the words, "It is finished."


In 2 Corinthians 3:6-8 Paul calls the Sinai Covenant "the ministry of death" engraved on stones.

In Galatians 4:24-31 Paul compels the Galatians believers to "cast out" the Sinai Covenant of "bondage".

You made a statement in Post #31 and then proved it wrong in Post #32.

Did you change your mind in between the two posts?

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You have had my response to your ongoing pointless arguing with Jesus over the Law. Why don't you try finding something to contribute to the site instead of arguing with others with added imaginations of your own as to what they have said!


Quasar92

 

[BABerean2]

As I previously told you, it was Jesus who told us nothing has been abrogated from the Law whatever, in my posts #31 and #32. All of your argument is with Jesus, not with me. I can only be the instrument to refute you by what He has said! Capiche?!


Quasar92

For someone who claims to be a Bible scholar and who berates others without the same training, you should notice that Christ made that statement before Calvary.


Mat_5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Did you notice that little word "till" in the verse above?
That same word is found in Galatians 3:19.

Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

The Law of Moses was to serve "until" the seed could come to whom the Abrahamic promise was made.
The Apostle Paul clarifies the meaning of Matthew 5:18, for any who are willing to read the text.


Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.


A person with your many degrees should know well the consequences of taking one verse out of its context in relationship to the rest of the New Testament.
That is exactly what you have done with Matthew 5:18.
You must ignore Paul's words in Galatians 3:19 to make your interpretation work.

It is no wonder that most modern Christians are totally confused over the relationship between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant.
As you have just demonstrated, modern Dispensational Theology is a part of the problem.

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[TribulationSigns]

The quote you responded to was from Jesus, in Mt.5:18, genius, not from me. You have an ongoing problem in the understanding of whether prophecy has been fulfilled or not. There are many who are still very much under the old covenant [Judaism], who have not accepted the tenets of the new covenant. Nor will they, until after Jesus second coming. There is nothing in the Mosaic law that has ever passed away.

Christ lived on earth as a man the Old Testament side of the cross to be an example of obedience, and as keeping the law fully He satisfied it. By His life, death, and Resurrection, He fulfilled all the requirements of the law perfectly, so that we now live perfect, without any transgression of the law before God because of His obedience and His sacrifice. The Scriptures don't teach that we follow the law of the Old Testament ceremonies, as if that was the case the Apostle wouldn't have told the Disciples that circumcision is not required to be a follower of Christ, rather that Christ satisfied those laws that you address that the children of Israel had to keep.

Matthew 5:17

• "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Christ is explaining that He didn't come to destroy the system of commandments or law revealed in the books of the Old Testament, but to fulfill (satisfy) them. In other words, Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws in respect to their requirements because they all actually pertained to Him and His effectual work as the deliverer of Israel from bondage to the law. Christ brought the true meaning of these ordinances into view and confirmed the Covenant/Promise with Israel by doing what the laws could never do--which is take away sins. When Christ fulfilled the law, He revealed and enforced their true spiritual meaning and intent.

Thus for the New Covenant saints to continue on in those Old Covenant ceremonial laws of the nation of Israel, would in effect be a denial that Christ has come and fulfilled (satisfied) them, as He claimed He did.

There is no obligation to do as Christ did, else we'd be practicing circumcision and sacrificing animals. The reason we do not do this is because Christ satisfied those laws, the true intent of them. Christ kept the Old Covenant ceremonial laws as an example because He lived on the Old Covenant side of the cross and was a model of the faithful Jew obedient to the law, even unto death. After the cross is the New Covenant economy where old things are become new, and the revelation of the hidden things of God concerning Israel, the Gentiles, the Promise, the seed, the restoration and Kingdom were revealed. No, there is now no obligation to sacrifice a Lamb, since Christ is our never ending or eternal sacrifice Lamb. There is no need for having a High Priest and a Holy of Holies in a Tabernacle within a physical temple for him, because Christ is our High Priest and the true way into the Holiest of Holies. There is no need to burn incense, for Christ is our burnt offering, a sweet smell unto God. And so on and so forth. Those old Testament ceremonial laws or ordinances were merely for a shadow, a picture foretelling of the coming of Christ, an illustration that "He" was the only one who could truly take away sin, not the ceremonies of burning incense, not water ablutions and not the shedding the blood of a goat. The laws were to bring man closer to the knowledge of the coming Redeemer, the Messiah, Christ Jesus. The "only" way to take away sin in Israel.

Hebrews 10:3-6

• "But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year."
• For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
• Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
  
• In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure."

These laws only brought a remembrance or recalling to mind by the high priest of Israel's former sins every year, illustrating the blood of animals neither took away their sins nor made anything clean, but merely foreshadowed Christ who would. Clearly, this is illustrating to all that the sins of those who offered sacrifices had not yet received a true expiation in their own personal attempts at obedience to those laws. That would only come in Christ Jesus. Today, with the coming of Christ fulfilled, there is no further obligation to remember our sins by High Priests, since those sins were truly purged and our transgressions removed by the ultimate High Priest. The only High Priest that actually could shed His blood and take away sins.

The Kingdom of Heaven representation on earth was indeed taken from the "nation" Israel, and given to the church, who now represents that Kingdom of Heaven on earth. That much cannot be "reasonably" denied by any faithful Christian. It's not politically correct to say the church replaced Israel, but since the kingdom was taken from them and given to the church, I really can't "honestly" argue with that wording. But we have really been joined into the Covenant, not replace, with Israel along with the Apostles and other Jews who are naturally covenanted children. As illustrated in the symbolism of the olive tree and gentiles being grafted in with them. Nevertheless, the Kingdom being taken away from national Israel is seen in Matthew chapter 21.

Matthew 21:42-43

• "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
• Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

People like Quasar opened a can of worms with by labeling it as "replacement theology", we can call it whatever we like, but the New Covenant with Israel is with the church, for it is NOW the representation of the kingdom of heaven on earth, ever since the Cross. Which is the position that the nation of Israel once held. That doesn't mean that we should continue to take up the Old Testament laws to practice, because those laws were satisfied or fulfilled in Christ. In other words, we're not going to sacrifice a Lamb on an altar because Christ has come and satisfied that condition of faithfulness to that law.

Christ came as the true fulfillment of those Old Testament Feasts/Observances, which merely served as a shadow or projection of the true thing or object that was coming, which was Christ. As the shadow comes first, and then the true comes that it was merely a silhouette of, one cannot go back to the shadow. It is the thing that is past.

Hebrews 10:1-10

• "For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things.."

Those laws prefigured Israel's eternal festival or feast that could only be completed in the coming Christ. To go back to the shadow would be a confession that the true which it is a shadow of has not come yet! Which of course the nation of Israel most assuredly does. Thus, they keep those old Testament feasts "as if" the Messiah their prince has not come. But this is something that true Christians should never do, whether Jews or Gentiles!

Of course, what you do is your own business, Quasar, but don't try and support Christians observing Old Testament feasts days with the nation of Israel, because it is contrary to the doctrines of Christ and the acceptance of His fulfillment. Selah!

 

[Erik Nelson]

Red Herring Alert!

A "red herring" in this instance is an expression or idiom that refers to any logical irrelevant fallacy that is put forth to distract from the actual point or issue that is at hand. It comes from the old practice of the foul-smelling red fish that used to be drawn across the trail where there was a scent, to mislead hunting dogs. In other words, it's a tactic used to put one off the scent. To draw them away from the actual point or objective of truth. So that is why the phrase is used when someone tries to mislead or detract from the actual issue.

Vis-à-vis, Antisemitism in Amillennialism is a particularly stinky "Red Herring" in that it is simply a dishonest extraneous and unconnected topic used to sidetrack, distract or divert from the actual truth of the doctrine itself.

It seems Quasar is prone to be discombobulated. In the real sense, Israel was never replaced, because Israel "is" Christ! The congregation bearing His name merely represents Him in His people. The honor of representation of His dominion was "taken" from that old testament congregation of Israel, and given to the New Testament Congregation of Israel, the Church. As an analogy, the Hope Diamond is a treasure that cannot replaced. You can take it from someone and give it to another, but it cannot be replaced. Because if it is replaced it, then by definition it is no longer the Hope Diamond, but something else. Again, an imperfect analogy, but this is the portrait God paints. Not I:

Matthew 21:42-43

• "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
• Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

So then, we don't even have to speculate, we know for sure that God took the Kingdom Representation from that nation or body, and gave it to the Gentiles. A fact which is confirmed all throughout the New Testament. So the Red Herring of "Replacement Theology" is misleading and irrelevant to the issue at hand. Israel is the Church, representing Christ on earth. Israel "was" the congregation of Jews in the Old Testament, but that title was taken from them along with the kingdom for which it stood.

"Replacement Theology" is not "anti-Semitic".

Christians don't hate the ancient patriarch Shem, forefather of Abraham.

And true Christians basically don't hate, period. They pray for all sinners, which (according to Christianity) includes all who do not acknowledge Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah of God in heaven.

As you observed, numerous parables describe wedding invitations & blessing being taken away from unfaithful natural Israel, and given to faithful not-natural-but-spiritual Israel.

Natural descendants of Abraham ("Jews") were replaced for lack of faith.

Matthew 7:15-20 warns that the very same will happen to spiritual descendants of Abraham ("Christians") who lack faith.

According to Christianity, God in heaven applies the same standard of judgement (faith vs. otherwise) to all humans on earth.

There is nothing biased, nothing anti-Jewish or anti-any-other-singular-particular-ethnic-group.

Christianity is just "pro Faith" (in Jesus of Nazareth, the 1st century Jew from Galilee, as the Messiah of all humanity, according to the wondrous workings of God the Father in heaven).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Errors of Replacement Theology

TribulationSigns said: ↑
Red Herring Alert!

Lol.......

The only biblical RT that I see in the Bible is the replacing of the OC Mosaic Priesthood with the NC Melchizedek Priesthood.

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus

LUKE 16:26
" 'And besides all this, between us[NC/spirit/life] and ye[OC/flesh/death] there is a great gulf fixed,
so that those who want to crossover from here to ye cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' "

Hebrews 7:
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12
For being translated/changed<3346> the Priesthood,
out of necessity also, of Law a translation/change<3331> is becoming<1096>,

1 Peter 2:
5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

Revelation 1:6
and has made us kings[fn] and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 5:10
And have made us[fn] kings[fn] and priests to our God;
And we[fn] shall reign on the earth.”
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with Him a thousand years.