The Elven-speaking thread

[morvaltur]

Ohhhh!!! Computer disasters! Yay! What happened?

 

[Eponine]

We found out that a bunch of the new computers we sent out to teachers with old computers may have been the wrong kind and intended to go other places.

 

[morvaltur]

Oh boy, so there was not anything wrong with them, they just went to the wrong places?

 

[Eponine]

Yeah. Although we've got 1 or 2 that do actually have things wrong with them too.

 

[morvaltur]

It sounds as though you all are have loads of fun over there.

 

[Eponine]

It sounds as though you all are have loads of fun over there.

*Shrugs* Hey, it keeps us busy.

 

[morvaltur]

Sith! I started school again and I have no computer classes!

 

[Eponine]

Sith! I started school again and I have no computer classes!

*Laughs* I would be grateful for that. The computer people at my school are fanatic about their "No games on school computers" rule. Perhaps a reason why I didn't get along with them when I was working this summer...

 

[morvaltur]

I just post on CF at school, which does not count as a game for them. Cheers to that.

Happy Birthday. Or, I should say, Mara Nosta!

 

[Eponine]

I just post on CF at school, which does not count as a game for them. Cheers to that.

Happy Birthday. Or, I should say, Mara Nosta!

((Lucky! It does to the people at my school))

*Bows slightly* Hannon le.

It was indeed a happy birthday. I had fun with my friends and got some great gifts.

 

[morvaltur]

Awesomeness. Seriously though, now being three weeks into school, I have discovered that, in reality, none of my classes are really fun. Their overwhelming workloads make up for any enjoyment that might have been derived from them. So instead, since my school only offers one foreign language (Spanish) I decided to start a German group on campus.

 

[wanderphilos]

As a lover of Tolkien and frequent visiter of Middle Earth has anyone found any after Tolkien books that visit middle earth worth reading...Also where is the best site for learning elven.

 

[morvaltur]

As a lover of Tolkien and frequent visiter of Middle Earth has anyone found any after Tolkien books that visit middle earth worth reading...Also where is the best site for learning elven.

Well, I assume that you have read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Have you read the Silmarillion or the History of Middle Earth Series? Also, perhaps you would enjoy the Unfinished Tales: Volume I and Volume II. All of these are excellent works.
As for a site for learning any of the Elven tongues, I would recommend visiting Ardalambion. They have an incredible amount of resources and the like. You should be able to find virtually anything there. Their website can be found at this URL: http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/
If there are more specific things that you need that you cannot find on that website, post a request here or PM me and I can certainly assist you in acquiring them, as I have access to many resources for many of Tolkien's languages.

 

[Wormie]

Hi all.. Morv, Laurelin, wanderphilos.... how are you all? Sorry I haven't been around CF much lately - I've been so busy lately (gotten a lot more work etc...) Hope it's all going well for you!

sorry I missed your birthday, Laurelin Hope you had a good day!!

 

[Eponine]

Awesomeness. Seriously though, now being three weeks into school, I have discovered that, in reality, none of my classes are really fun. Their overwhelming workloads make up for any enjoyment that might have been derived from them. So instead, since my school only offers one foreign language (Spanish) I decided to start a German group on campus.

Fun.

Don´t worry about it, Wormie. Yeah, my day was great.

And now here I am in Spain!

 

[morvaltur]

SPAIN!?! That is so cool! I wish I was in Spain, but instead, I am just mowing the lawn for a neighbor in who is currently visiting Spain.

 

[Eponine]

SPAIN!?! That is so cool! I wish I was in Spain, but instead, I am just mowing the lawn for a neighbor in who is currently visiting Spain.

Yeah. Did I totally forget to mention that I'm spending a year in Zaragoza, Spain with a school year abroad program?

 

[Nakiah4Yeshua]

This is an excellent article that I found on Quenya vowel pronunciation. It helps alot to differentiate between the sounds of accented vowels and unaccented.


Quenya presents few problems in pronunciation; for native English speakers, the main point to watch is the vowels.
Vowels

The vowels of Quenya will be pronounced more or less correctly by a native speaker of practically any mainland European language (well, OK, not Danish!). For English and American speakers, a little care is required: pronounce the vowels as you would in, say, Spanish. They are all pure sounds, rather than the diphthongs frequent in English. Quenya (and the other languages) distinguish short and long vowels (traditionally marked by an acute accent). Unlike in English, where so-called short and long vowels have distinct sounds as well as distinct lengths, in Quenya the length is the only distinction between i and í, a and á, u and ú. (e and o do have some difference in quality.) The short vowels are pronounced thus:

• a is pronounced by most people as in Spanish or French, although for all we know it could be as in Dutch or English. So pronounce as in French patte, or German man. (This sound doesn't exist in Received Pronunciation English, but is roughly the a of northern English dialects in words such as bath.)
• e is pronounced as English pet, French fait, or German denn.
• i is pronounced with the same sound as English peat, but shorter; French lit; German vital.
• o is roughly English (but not American!) pot; French comme; German Topf.
• u is the sound of boot, but shorter; French ou; German Uran.

Examples: a, e, i, o, u.
alta, elen, Isil, osto, undu.

The long vowels are pronounced thus:

• á, í, ú: just like the short vowels, but longer! (About twice as long, if you want a guide figure, but just do whatever your own language does.)
• é is pronounced a little `closer' than e. The first part of the diphthong in English may; a long version of French é; or german Tee.
• ó is similarly pronounced closer than o. English paw (but closer); French hôte; German Sohn.

Examples: á, é, í, ó, ú.
fána, nése, hísie, onóne, untúpa.

Quenya also has a set of six diphthongs (note that all other pairs of vowels should be pronounced separately). They are ai, oi, ui, au, eu, iu. In each case, pronounce the first vowel strongly, and glide into the second (except for iu, where is it also acceptable to glide from a weak i to a strong u -- that is a Third Age pronunciation).
Examples: ai, oi, ui, au, eu, iu (old), iu (3rd Age)
Ainu, coimas, cuivie, Laurelin, leuca, miule Finally, a note on the diaeresis. Tolkien used this sign in order to remind English speakers that e should be pronounced at the end of words, and that combinations such as ea are two sounds, not a diphthong, as in Aldëa, Atalantë, hísië. Since this is completely unnecessary, it's usual not to use it in articles on Tolkienian linguistics.

THANKS THAT IS A GREAT TOOL!!

Americans like me need some help.

v4J

 

[morvaltur]

Yeah. Did I totally forget to mention that I'm spending a year in Zaragoza, Spain with a school year abroad program?

What? How? Are you not only in high school? Tell me more about it!

No problem, virginia4jesus. If we can be of any more assistance to you, just tell us!

 

[Eponine]

What? How? Are you not only in high school? Tell me more about it!

No problem, virginia4jesus. If we can be of any more assistance to you, just tell us!

Yes, I am just a Junior in high school. There's a program called School Year Abroad run by some of the big-name boarding schools, and they send about 60-65 11th and 12th grade students every year to Spain, and the same amount to China, France, and Italy. Their website is www.sya.org.