The El Paso Screed, and the Racist Doctrine Behind It

SummerMadness · Aug 7, 2019

The El Paso Screed, and the Racist Doctrine Behind It

From Pittsburgh to Christchurch, and now El Paso, white men accused of carrying out deadly mass shootings have cited the same paranoid fear: the extinction of the white race.

The threat of the "great replacement," or the idea that white people will be replaced by people of color, was cited directly in the four-page screed written by the man arrested in the killing of 22 people in El Paso over the weekend.

The phrase was coined in 2012 by the French author Renaud Camus, whose writing on white genocide echoes at least a century of white supremacist views. But some experts now fear the doctrine of replacement is being embraced more readily by lone wolf white terrorists and even some politicians, producing a particularly dangerous climate.

But we have to understand that these people do not exist in a vacuum. Many of these views are broadcast on mainstream news outlets, which compounds the problem.

How Fox News pushed the white supremacist "great replacement" theory

Constantly pushing the idea of "changing demographics" is meant to scare white people and make them feel as though they are being "replaced." And in true Southern strategy fashion, they will never explicitly say something racist, but they will push ideas that are meant to inflame racial animosity.

jayem · Aug 8, 2019

Shameful. This is exactly the same ugly defamation of Irish and German Catholic immigrants spouted by the Know-Nothings back in the early 19th century. Which led to riots in Philadelphia. Catholic churches were burned, and people on both sides were killed.

As the saying goes, those who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.

Nativist Riots of 1844 | Encyclopedia of Greater Philadelphia

SummerMadness · Aug 8, 2019

Unfortunately, too many people turn the other way or join in with dehumanizing others, and provide no response to the promotion of white supremacy. Use of terms like “changing demographics” is a winking nod to white supremacy because it purports that the only way the United States remains the United States is of the majority of the population remains white.

redleghunter · Aug 8, 2019

Was this another case of a non-White male embracing white supremacy doctrine?

Gigimo · Aug 9, 2019

You know not too many people are actually buying this sudden uptick in "popular rhetoric" about white supremacy, white nationalism and other such nonsense. For the very simple reason they don't know anybody that that is participating in these activities or even fits the profile for that matter. All it is accomplishing is making them very skeptical about anything that may flow from the mouths of the folks spreading this "popular rhetoric" now and in the future.

redleghunter · Aug 9, 2019

Gigimo said:
You know not too many people are actually buying this sudden uptick in "popular rhetoric" about white supremacy, white nationalism and other such nonsense. For the very simple reason they don't know anybody that that is participating in these activities or even fits the profile for that matter. All it is accomplishing is making them very skeptical about anything that may flow from the mouths of the folks spreading this "popular rhetoric" now and in the future.

Which is concerning because when such becomes widespread the populace will be numb to the outcry. Kind of like the boy who cried wolf.

SummerMadness · Aug 9, 2019

Gigimo said:
You know not too many people are actually buying this sudden uptick in "popular rhetoric" about white supremacy, white nationalism and other such nonsense. For the very simple reason they don't know anybody that that is participating in these activities or even fits the profile for that matter. All it is accomplishing is making them very skeptical about anything that may flow from the mouths of the folks spreading this "popular rhetoric" now and in the future.

They don't buy it because either they're normalized to white supremacist views or ignore the victims, something you see often by complaining about the statistics showing more white supremacist terrorism and hate crimes or government reports demonstrating a clear increase. And when a white supremacist yet again commits an act of terrorism, complain that it is nonsense.

redleghunter · Aug 9, 2019

SummerMadness said:
They don't buy it because either they're normalized to white supremacist views or ignore the victims, something you see often by complaining about the statistics showing more white supremacist terrorism and hate crimes or government reports demonstrating a clear increase. And when a white supremacist yet again commits an act of terrorism, complain that it is nonsense.

There are similarities between the lone domestic terrorist attacks attributed to ISIS and these white supremacist domestic attacks.

If I remember correctly, many on these boards kept telling us that the ISIS related attacks did not reflect on the larger Muslim community at large. That these were extremists who had a personal axe to grind.

Yet with these recent attacks, one being attributed to white supremacy and one to a disturbed Warren supporter, there is a widespread problem.

Isn’t this the same type of hype we saw against Muslims when we had those attacks under Obama?

redleghunter · Aug 9, 2019

SummerMadness said:
They don't buy it because either they're normalized to white supremacist views or ignore the victims, something you see often by complaining about the statistics showing more white supremacist terrorism and hate crimes or government reports demonstrating a clear increase. And when a white supremacist yet again commits an act of terrorism, complain that it is nonsense.

On post #4 I asked a question and showed the mugshot of the shooter. His last name is either Hispanic or Portuguese. Is this a case of a non-white male embracing white supremacist doctrine and is this something that is spreading?

SummerMadness · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
On post #4 I asked a question and showed the mugshot of the shooter. His last name is either Hispanic or Portuguese. Is this a case of a non-white male embracing white supremacist doctrine and is this something that is spreading?

Hispanic is not a race. Having a Spanish or Portuguese name does not mean one is not white. For instance, people from Spain are European descent, they are white. The terrorist arrested in El Paso is a white male.

redleghunter · Aug 9, 2019

SummerMadness said:
Hispanic is not a race. Having a Spanish or Portuguese name does not mean one is not white. For instance, people from Spain are European descent, they are white. The terrorist arrested in El Paso is a white male.

He sure does not fit the physical descriptions. He’s not white.

SummerMadness · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
He sure does not fit the physical descriptions. He’s not white.

You posted the picture of a white man with a German surname. He is a white male.

Aldebaran · Aug 9, 2019

SummerMadness said:
You posted the picture of a white man with a German surname. He is a white male.

The gunman in the Missouri Walmart incident is Russian. Does that count for anything?

comana · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
He sure does not fit the physical descriptions. He’s not white.

That picture sure looks like a white male to me.

Gigimo · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
Which is concerning because when such becomes widespread the populace will be numb to the outcry. Kind of like the boy who cried wolf.

The other thing nobody believes is how many of these people that some are claiming exist, and who they are being "projected" to be affiliated with politically

GOD Shines Forth! · Aug 9, 2019

Gigimo said:
You know not too many people are actually buying this sudden uptick in "popular rhetoric" about white supremacy, white nationalism and other such nonsense. For the very simple reason they don't know anybody that that is participating in these activities or even fits the profile for that matter. All it is accomplishing is making them very skeptical about anything that may flow from the mouths of the folks spreading this "popular rhetoric" now and in the future.

Nailed it.

FreeinChrist · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
Was this another case of a non-White male embracing white supremacy doctrine?

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He is white, redleghunter.

FreeinChrist · Aug 9, 2019

redleghunter said:
He sure does not fit the physical descriptions. He’s not white.

He is white, redleghunter. Your comments are not acceptable.

FreeinChrist · Aug 9, 2019

SummerMadness said:
Hispanic is not a race. Having a Spanish or Portuguese name does not mean one is not white. For instance, people from Spain are European descent, they are white. The terrorist arrested in El Paso is a white male.

QFT

FreeinChrist · Aug 9, 2019

Gigimo said:
You know not too many people are actually buying this sudden uptick in "popular rhetoric" about white supremacy, white nationalism and other such nonsense. For the very simple reason they don't know anybody that that is participating in these activities or even fits the profile for that matter. All it is accomplishing is making them very skeptical about anything that may flow from the mouths of the folks spreading this "popular rhetoric" now and in the future.

Actually many are recognizing that white nationalism (supremacy) is a growing problem in the US. They have eyes and hears. They saw the marching at Charlottesville and the 'Unite the Right" march - remember "Jews will not replace us"?
More US voters see white nationalism as a threat: poll

Forty-seven percent of voters said they perceive white nationalism as a threat, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll released Wednesday and taken in the days after a mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, last weekend. It’s a 10-point increase from March, when 37 percent of voters said white nationalism was a threat in poll that followed the New Zealand mosque shootings. ......

Voters now view white nationalism as a threat on statistically similar levels as Islamic extremism, at 49 percent, based on the poll.

The uptick in viewing white nationalism as a threat was larger among Democrats and independents than it was amongst Republicans. The poll found an 11-point increase among Democrats, from 58 percent to 69 percent, and a 12-point jump among independents, from 33 percent to 45 percent.

The perceived white nationalist threat among Republicans increased from 17 percent to 22 percent.

One-third of voters said they blame Trump “a lot” for mass shootings, which is an 11-point increase from a poll last year. The majority of Democrats, 59 percent, blame Trump, and just four percent of Republicans blame Trump “a lot” for mass shootings, according to the poll.

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