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That would certainly explain why the earth is flat. The earth is flat and the sea is curved. I think I see now why scientists are confused.

"And God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas." -- (Gen 1:10).

The earth is distinct and separate from the sea, but scientists are lumping them all together.
 
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As we substitute "was" for the Hebrew word that means "became" in Genesis. Hayah. The earth wasn't created formless and void, but "became" that way during the catastrophe that killed the dinosaurs and left the earth desolate and waste, with darkness enveloping it. Then heat penetrated and separated the waters above from the waters below, and dry land appeared.

It all depends on words, whether we use the correct meanings, or an incorrect meaning.
 
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So were the dinosaurs given names by Adam?
Or are they not animals?
 
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I can't argue with that.

If the Bible said the earth was round, then I'm sure scientists would be harping that It should have said "spherical;" and if the Bible said the earth was a sphere, I'm sure scientists would be harping It should have said "oblate spheroid."
 
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If the Bible said the earth was round, then I'm sure scientists would be harping that It should have said "spherical;" and if the Bible said the earth was a sphere, I'm sure scientists would be harping It should have said "oblate spheroid."

I doubt scientists spend a considerable amount of time in their fields considering what interpretation should be taken from a translation of a book of myths.
 
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I doubt scientists spend a considerable amount of time in their fields considering what interpretation should be taken from a translation of a book of myths.

Why then are they so quick to tell us that even basic doctrine is wrong?
 
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I doubt scientists spend a considerable amount of time in their fields considering what interpretation should be taken from a translation of a book of myths.

The founders of modern science spent years on the issue.
 
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I doubt scientists spend a considerable amount of time in their fields considering what interpretation should be taken from a translation of a book of myths.

Why then are they so quick to tell us that even basic doctrine is wrong?

As the poster you quoted stated, it's not the doctrine, it's the interpretation. In other words, if a scientist says you're wrong, it's has nothing to do with doctrine.
 
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As the poster you quoted stated, it's not the doctrine, it's the interpretation. In other words, if a scientist says you're wrong, it's has nothing to do with doctrine.

So as long as one believes the antithesis of something, it's okay to say it's wrong ... correct?

For example, if Joe believes the Flood was local, based on evidence, then it's okay for Joe to tell someone who believes the Flood was worldwide that he is wrong?

That's basically my style as well.

Since I believe in a literal Genesis 1, I don't mind telling scientists who believe in cosmic evolution that they are wrong.

Why?

Because they are.
 
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Interesting thread.

Scripture does not say the Earth is Round as in ball. Isaiah used the Hebrew Word chug, so did proverbs. It means as a complete circuit. Dur would mean a spherical ball.

All stars spin in a circle when viewed with time lapse photography no matter where your at on the Earth. This would be impossible on a rotating ball but at the poles.

Scripture does not say the Earth is flat, but it does say it has ends, and is stationary.

All views from above Earth, even in a plane are flat unless a fish eye lense is used in which the earth goes from convex, to concave, to flat.

We have no photograph of Earth, they simply do not exist. We have no idea what it looks like from far above. Only two rockets have ever seen a little above not controlled by NASA or the governments, which also has NASA involved. They show a very close sun, no stars like most of NASA photo's above Earth. NASA gave up on putting Stars in their photo's when on the moon or low earth orbit.

Flat earth, concave earth, Alien hunters, hollow earth, all gain firepower by proving our only source of credibility wrong. We only have what NASA tells us, they are the only ones who have the money to prove ideas that were around before we could reach low Earth orbit.

I can't find one thing NASA claims that is true. NOTHING....................... from ISS, to the Apollo moon landings.
NASA is not even on Mars, never sent a blessed thing to this so called MARS.

It would be funny every time someone post a picture of Earth to prove the nut jobs wrong. It's not funny though, the person posting the picture is deeply deceived. There are no pictures of Earth.

NASA gets away with this by several tactics.

1) Create large groups of conspiracy people through main media, then prove them wrong to make the small majority who have real evidence seem less credible. We see them doing this with Fox and their so called Apollo hoax broad cast. Fox refused to air the one video that proved Apollo 11 never made it to the moon.

2) NASA knows that the earth is filled with Evolutionist. They will hold onto that idea, no matter the evidence. All that is left to deceive is Christians and the remaining nut cases.

3) When Busted, NASA comes clean with a reasonable explanation. Instead of claiming their Earth Photo's are real as they had, they now say they are all composites of many images and data, then put together. Then tell us why it's impossible to get a full picture of the Earth, but they only can get sections and put them together as they see fit.

4) NASA sent the discovr Epic Satellite 1 million miles away to take real time photo's of Earth. The system they say is comprised of 10 lenses that combine a photo for a real picture of Earth. Problem with this is that this Epic satellite sends back pictures from known other images, like the Goes 13 Weather Satellite, recolored and things added in with photoshop. When busted, the picture simply vanishes off their website. Why not place something on the moon 239,000 miles away? They can't get there is one reason.

5) NASA sends pictures back from Mars taken in Greenland "Devon Island" when busted, they set up a website in 2013 and proclaimed to the Word they are on Devon Island to study it because it's so much like Mars. Now they send pictures from there with no shame and tell us it's Mars. Pictures that have the occasional shopping cart that got in the way blured out. Not only that, many mars pictures have rock formations clone stamped in. They were never good at using photoshop.
It's very convenient that you can't tell the difference between mars and Devon Island. The terrain is exactly the same.
NASA is also not very bright, on Mars photo has a Arctic Lemming in the picture. A fury animal native to Devon Island. I guess they also live on Mars.

6) NASA now claims it can't get past low Earth Orbit. Col Terry Virts (ISS) tells us this. This is backed by a article published by MIT, there are now these evil plasma bands that surround Earth. This is also said again by NASA's video on the SLS and Orion project Congress has been grilling NASA about the tremendous cost. This new system is suppose to survive the plasma belts, which Col Terry Virts claim we can now go to the moon.
I doubt these belts are real, NASA's own 1973 Report on radiation only had concerns about the radiation from operation fishbowl. This is the radiation left above Earth because we exploded many nuclear weapons above earth orbit along with Russia.

Astronaut Allen Bean the 4th man to walk on the moon said He knew nothing of any radiation belt, citing they had yet been discovered.

7) NASA Neil Armstrong and Buzz gave out 100 fake moon rocks. They contain petrified wood. When Busted, NASA claims they lost all 800 pounds of Moon rocks. Stolen...................
Same claim they made when the freedom of information act was passed. All requested data and video that was not included in NASA's broadcasts just vanished, 1,000's of boxes just missing. On NASA's web site they still claim they are not lost, we just don't know where the heck they are.

I gave up, the list goes on and on.

What is for certain, NASA and the rest of the governments do not want us to know what is actually above us. If we knew, it would not only destroy the theory of the Big Bang, but Evolution would go down with it, all in one day.
 
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All views from above Earth, even in a plane are flat unless a fish eye lense is used in which the earth goes from convex, to concave, to flat.

Even climbing to the top of a hill not far from where I live makes the curvature of the Earth pretty visible.
 
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So NASA controls Russia, China, and all others who have gone up and obtained pictures of the earth??? The whole world is controlled by NASA? You mean NASA is the antichrist?? All the governments are in cahoots spending millions of dollars so that the general population can not know that the earth is flat as that would then destroy the theory of evolution?? So you are saying that evolution produce a spherical earth, whereas God creates a flat earth,---evolution couldn't have possibly caused a flat earth. So then you must have proof that evolution could not produce a flat earth?? And since this whole conspiracy is so that we do not know the earth is flat, if we should all know that the earth is flat, what exactly would that knowledge do to the whole world that would be so devastating, that all the governments have to be in together on this deception to prevent it??--So if the whole world knew the truth, the earth is flat, that would change exactly what???
 
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All stars spin in a circle when viewed with time lapse photography no matter where your at on the Earth. This would be impossible on a rotating ball but at the poles.
That's not even close to true. Some stars rise in the east and set in the west. A straight line on time lapse (at the equator)

I can't find one thing NASA claims that is true. NOTHING....................... from ISS
You ever watched the ISS fly over your head at night? I have. It travels from one horizon to the other in a little over 5 minutes. How are you explaining that?!
 
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