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The Earth is Flat

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Interesting thread.

Scripture does not say the Earth is Round as in ball. Isaiah used the Hebrew Word chug, so did proverbs. It means as a complete circuit. Dur would mean a spherical ball.

You do know that is not quite correct do you not?

Chug means a vault or a horizon. Yet when we talk of a ship on a horizon we understand that we are talking of a round earth. A horizon simply means the extent of your vision due to a spherical nature.


All stars spin in a circle when viewed with time lapse photography no matter where your at on the Earth. This would be impossible on a rotating ball but at the poles.

All stars spin in a circle only around the north pole - precisely because it is a rotating ball. If you looked out perpendicular to the equator (as you do at the poles) - all stars would come into view and then disappears from view as they passed the horizon.

Scripture does not say the Earth is flat, but it does say it has ends, and is stationary.
Because the horizon is the extent of your vision - its ends. The word for stationary also means in the sense that it will always exist.

All views from above Earth, even in a plane are flat unless a fish eye lense is used in which the earth goes from convex, to concave, to flat.

And yet you insist it is not ok to describe it is a circle. since from space it appears as exactly that? As does the moon.

We have no photograph of Earth, they simply do not exist. We have no idea what it looks like from far above. Only two rockets have ever seen a little above not controlled by NASA or the governments, which also has NASA involved. They show a very close sun, no stars like most of NASA photo's above Earth. NASA gave up on putting Stars in their photo's when on the moon or low earth orbit.

Simply a misunderstanding of not understanding photography. The exposure is adjusted to obtain photographs of the earth or moon - not for taking pictures of the stars. If you wanted pictures of the stars the exposure would need adjusted and then the earth or moon would become a white blob. Defeating the whole purpose for which those pictures were taken.

Flat earth, concave earth, Alien hunters, hollow earth, all gain firepower by proving our only source of credibility wrong. We only have what NASA tells us, they are the only ones who have the money to prove ideas that were around before we could reach low Earth orbit.

No they simply show the power of the human imagination to not bother to research photography and exposure times. If I increased exposure time to include the faint stars compared to the light reflected from the earth - the earth would be but an undistinguished bright blob of light.

I can't find one thing NASA claims that is true. NOTHING....................... from ISS, to the Apollo moon landings.
NASA is not even on Mars, never sent a blessed thing to this so called MARS.

It would be funny every time someone post a picture of Earth to prove the nut jobs wrong. It's not funny though, the person posting the picture is deeply deceived. There are no pictures of Earth.

So those satellites we put into orbit are not really there, even if you use thier GPS signals and cummunication abilities every day????

NASA gets away with this by several tactics.

1) Create large groups of conspiracy people through main media, then prove them wrong to make the small majority who have real evidence seem less credible. We see them doing this with Fox and their so called Apollo hoax broad cast. Fox refused to air the one video that proved Apollo 11 never made it to the moon.

In your conspiracy theory where you are attempting to do the same thing you complain about?

2) NASA knows that the earth is filled with Evolutionist. They will hold onto that idea, no matter the evidence. All that is left to deceive is Christians and the remaining nut cases.

NASA could care less about evolutionist theories. It has nothing to do with the science to launch spacecraft into orbit.

3) When Busted, NASA comes clean with a reasonable explanation. Instead of claiming their Earth Photo's are real as they had, they now say they are all composites of many images and data, then put together. Then tell us why it's impossible to get a full picture of the Earth, but they only can get sections and put them together as they see fit.

I'll tell you what. Take a beach ball, place the camera 4 inches from it. Prove to me you can take a photo of the entire beach ball in one image. When you can do that come back and talk to me about it again.

4) NASA sent the discovr Epic Satellite 1 million miles away to take real time photo's of Earth. The system they say is comprised of 10 lenses that combine a photo for a real picture of Earth. Problem with this is that this Epic satellite sends back pictures from known other images, like the Goes 13 Weather Satellite, recolored and things added in with photoshop. When busted, the picture simply vanishes off their website. Why not place something on the moon 239,000 miles away? They can't get there is one reason.

If you say so.

http://deanetr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/earth-from-the-moon_1024x768_429811.jpg

5) NASA sends pictures back from Mars taken in Greenland "Devon Island" when busted, they set up a website in 2013 and proclaimed to the Word they are on Devon Island to study it because it's so much like Mars. Now they send pictures from there with no shame and tell us it's Mars. Pictures that have the occasional shopping cart that got in the way blured out. Not only that, many mars pictures have rock formations clone stamped in. They were never good at using photoshop.
It's very convenient that you can't tell the difference between mars and Devon Island. The terrain is exactly the same.
NASA is also not very bright, on Mars photo has a Arctic Lemming in the picture. A fury animal native to Devon Island. I guess they also live on Mars.

Show me that picture? I can guarantee if anyone Photoshopped it it is the nut jobs claiming it's a NASA photograph.

Show me this on Devon Island????

https://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/images/full/mars/vlpan22.jpg

This is as close as it gets and is not even similar.

https://a2-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/123/fce30c85141949db8692205245e75749/300x300.jpg

I spent 12 years working with photoshop in the printing industry.

And don't you mean a duck?

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/zT_Yjgg5oJ8/...-uploademail&sigh=w_726HIUtbj34XIvBhnKp2kdYzg

Next you will be twelling me Bigfoot is on Mars - oh wait - they already are.

http://www.theblisspages.com/images2/marisa.jpg

6) NASA now claims it can't get past low Earth Orbit. Col Terry Virts (ISS) tells us this. This is backed by a article published by MIT, there are now these evil plasma bands that surround Earth. This is also said again by NASA's video on the SLS and Orion project Congress has been grilling NASA about the tremendous cost. This new system is suppose to survive the plasma belts, which Col Terry Virts claim we can now go to the moon.
I doubt these belts are real, NASA's own 1973 Report on radiation only had concerns about the radiation from operation fishbowl. This is the radiation left above Earth because we exploded many nuclear weapons above earth orbit along with Russia.

Technology in 1973 is not the same as it is today.

But please point me to the actual article where these people say this. Not a blog site where other people claim other people said things.

Astronaut Allen Bean the 4th man to walk on the moon said He knew nothing of any radiation belt, citing they had yet been discovered.

In 1963 - again - we have better technology now. He was also talking about the Skylab mission in 1973, because Skylab is below the Van Allen belts - not above it. In 1973 we were not even sure of the extent of those belts. All satellites orbit below them, because the radiation in the belts can short circuit electronics if not properly shielded. Also they are torpodal in shape - and all Apollo mission were launched to pass through the thinnest portion of these belts so exposure would be at a minimum.

7) NASA Neil Armstrong and Buzz gave out 100 fake moon rocks. They contain petrified wood. When Busted, NASA claims they lost all 800 pounds of Moon rocks. Stolen...................
Same claim they made when the freedom of information act was passed. All requested data and video that was not included in NASA's broadcasts just vanished, 1,000's of boxes just missing. On NASA's web site they still claim they are not lost, we just don't know where the heck they are.

I gave up, the list goes on and on.

You'll believe anything anyone tells you as long as it's not NASA telling you, right?????

What is for certain, NASA and the rest of the governments do not want us to know what is actually above us. If we knew, it would not only destroy the theory of the Big Bang, but Evolution would go down with it, all in one day.

We already know the Big Bang and evolution is false simply because they are wrong about what redshift actually is.

http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/hubble/

And because evolutionists ignore the observational evidence.

Asian mates with Asian and produces only Asian. African mates with African and produces only African. Only when Asian and African mate is variation (Afro-Asian) seen in the species.

Next you'll be telling me little green aliens come from space but there's no way they can get through the radiation belts - remember. And the world is flat. Or that in its center lives an entire race of little green men?
 
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We have no photograph of Earth, they simply do not exist. We have no idea what it looks like from far above. Only two rockets have ever seen a little above not controlled by NASA or the governments, which also has NASA involved. They show a very close sun, no stars like most of NASA photo's above Earth. NASA gave up on putting Stars in their photo's when on the moon or low earth orbit.

You can actually take a camera with you if you wish.
(This is not government run.)
http://www.virgingalactic.com/

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- Camera - right side
 
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I doubt scientists spend a considerable amount of time in their fields considering what interpretation should be taken from a translation of a book of myths.

I doubt many consider it such.
 
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I doubt many consider it such.
At least 90 percent of them do.

For a scientists to be religious which way do you think is more likely? does a scientist become religious or does a religious person become a scientist? I can't see many scientists becoming religious (some yes) but I can well see a few religious people becoming scientists, in fact I think most religious people who become scientists lose their faith, some don't but most do.
 
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At least 90 percent of them do.

For a scientists to be religious which way do you think is more likely? does a scientist become religious or does a religious person become a scientist? I can't see many scientists becoming religious (some yes) but I can well see a few religious people becoming scientists, in fact I think most religious people who become scientists lose their faith, some don't but most do.

And from whence would you have gotten that information? Assuming that it is not just an expression of your own prejudices, as much as anything else.
 
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And from whence would you have gotten that information? Assuming that it is not just an expression of your own prejudices, as much as anything else.
Just by living and reading about all sides and not just one.
Here is another one for you, Believers in Christianity are dying quicker than new believers can be made.

http://www.pewforum.org/
 
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You do know that is not quite correct do you not?

Chug means a vault or a horizon....

Not quite in and of itself, but it can mean that and does in many contexts. In fact I'll agree with you the Isaiah passage is likely speaking of the spherical sky that surrounds the earth.

What you're missing though, is that earth (erets) really just means land. it can refer to the entire lands everywhere, or a specific land. And land is definitely not flat, as it has hills and valleys. It also has ends. They call them coastlines today.
 
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