The DIXIE CHICKS

[LionandLambMinistry]

I agree. Nobody denied that.



You know what else is juvenile? Burning CDs of artists who were merely expressing an opinion. Calling them traitors also. I'm not saying that you agree with that viewpoint. I'm just making a point.
Ringo
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You seem pretty reasonable. You are right I am not of the opinion of burning cd's and all that. People get whacky. I just simply voice my disagreement by keeping my money in my wallet

 

[Cooch]

Beccy Cole is an Australian singer who went to the middle-east to support and entertain our troops over there. On her return, she received an abusive letter from a former fan who had taken exception to her having the temerity to visit our troops.

Here is her response.

http://www.observationdeck.org/weblogs/?p=1912

Good Girl!!

Peter

 

[LionandLambMinistry]

Beccy Cole is an Australian singer who went to the middle-east to support and entertain our troops over there. On her return, she received an abusive letter from a former fan who had taken exception to her having the temerity to visit our troops.

Here is her response.

http://www.observationdeck.org/weblogs/?p=1912

Good Girl!!

Peter

Good job!!

 

[Ringo84]

You seem pretty reasonable. You are right I am not of the opinion of burning cd's and all that. People get whacky. I just simply voice my disagreement by keeping my money in my wallet

Thanks. So do you.
Ringo

 

[Ringo84]

Read my post nex time. Turning your back on your home IS treason http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/treason

ie: a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.

The Dixie Chicks didn't commit treason. Speaking out against bad policies by a bad President isn't treason. It's what this nation is all about. Treason is accepting questionable policies without question or protest.
Ringo

 

[artybloke]

It takes a certain amount of honesty to admit that no oil has been stolen.

Perhaps, upon consideration, you might care to rephrase your remark in the light of Jude 1:9

If Michael himself did would not abuse Satan, who are you to do so? Not to mention proclaiming speculation as fact? I pray that you receive more charity from God, than you have shown towards a fellow believer in this matter.

Respectfully yours............ Peter

Bush is a criminal. He has the blood of 1,000's of Afghani's, Iraqi's and the people of New Orleans he left to die on his hands.

He lied about weapons of mass destruction, he was elected illegally.

 

[carrymeaway06]

The Dixie Chicks didn't commit treason. Speaking out against bad policies by a bad President isn't treason. It's what this nation is all about. Treason is accepting questionable policies without question or protest.
Ringo

Forget it. YOU did NOT read my original post.

 

[churchrat]

Forget it. YOU did NOT read my original post.

I read your original post. You wrote two short sentences saying "Treason is this" (not much to miss) and ringo said, "No, it's this." I'm not sure what we're supposed to be missing in those two little sentences; perhaps you could elaborate a little.

 

[carrymeaway06]

You're not a traitor until you are a US citizen traveling to a foreign country bashing the US from said foreign country. Not even just bush, but the US.

That's what I said. Did the Dixie chicks go to another country and than bash bush and the US? No. READ what I wrote. Ringo mentioned that people were calling them traitors. I STATED they were not. And yet everyone seems to have SUCH difficulty simply reading what I posted. If you don't get it, before you assume what I'm talking about, please read it over.

(Example, Johnny Depp bad mouth the United States from france... he didn't even have the guts to say things about this country IN THE COUNTRY. He had to go somewhere else to do it).

Natalie just ranted about Bush. She did it from here, and so long as she votes, she has the right to express her opinion. PLEASE stop mis-reading things. It's typed, you didn't get it, read it again.

 

[churchrat]

\PLEASE stop mis-reading things. It's typed, you didn't get it, read it again.

I read your explanation, then went back to the original quote. It was kind of like putting a puzzle together, figuring out how that quote matched the explanation.

Perhaps ringo and I were just to dense to understand that we agreed with you. On the other hand, when the audience for whom you're writing can't understand you, perhaps you should consider that the failure could belong to you and not the audience.

 

[carrymeaway06]

I read your explanation, then went back to the original quote. It was kind of like putting a puzzle together, figuring out how that quote matched the explanation.

Perhaps ringo and I were just to dense to understand that we agreed with you. On the other hand, when the audience for whom you're writing can't understand you, perhaps you should consider that the failure could belong to you and not the audience.

Perhaps when the audience uses excuses and attacks to block out their own misunderstanding, than the writer decides it's not worth it to decipher. And it was not a puzzle. It was simple statement. Someone mention treason and them being traitors. I said your not a traitor until. What I said didn't even FIT into the description of what went down with the dixie chicks. They were NOT outside the USA and the did NOT bash the USA. So, why there was a misunderstanding was not my fault.

 

[Ringo84]

Perhaps when the audience uses excuses and attacks to block out their own misunderstanding, than the writer decides it's not worth it to decipher. And it was not a puzzle. It was simple statement. Someone mention treason and them being traitors. I said your not a traitor until. What I said didn't even FIT into the description of what went down with the dixie chicks. They were NOT outside the USA and the did NOT bash the USA. So, why there was a misunderstanding was not my fault.

Did you get my rep message?
Ringo

 

[carrymeaway06]

Did you get my rep message?
Ringo

Yeah, thanks I appreciate it!
The comment I made wasn't aimed at you. Just didn't think people wanted to make this so difficult. It was a couple of words long.

 

[churchrat]

Perhaps when the audience uses excuses and attacks

My words were not meant as an attack. If you misunderstood me, than that was my failure for not expressing myself clearly enough, and I offer my apologies.

 

[santalucia]

Perhaps when the audience uses excuses and attacks to block out their own misunderstanding, than the writer decides it's not worth it to decipher. And it was not a puzzle. It was simple statement. Someone mention treason and them being traitors. I said your not a traitor until. What I said didn't even FIT into the description of what went down with the dixie chicks. They were NOT outside the USA and the did NOT bash the USA. So, why there was a misunderstanding was not my fault.

Yes they were. In England I believe.

 

[carrymeaway06]

Yes they were. In England I believe.

My mistake... I thought they did this while on a US tour, in that case, I do view them as traitors to our Country. Thanks for changing my view.

No, kidding. Like I said. They bad-mouthed Bush, and so long as they voted, they have the right to do that. They don't agree with him fine. But don't talk bad about your own country outside of your country.

 

[mohawk]

People pay to hear them sing, not do ramble on with a political diatribe. Like Laura Ingraham says...Shut Up And Sing...

 

[steelmagnolia]

This will probably elicit some pretty heated exchanges, but I'm going to go ahead and express my opinion that the Dixie Chicks have been getting a bum deal ever since Natalie Maines' controversial comments.

To say that the Dixie Chicks don't have the freedom of speech simply because that speech is different from yours is garbage. Freedom means nothing when it's unidirectional - it applies only to one group of people.

I'm really sorry that FreeRepublic.com and Sean Hannity and other extremists don't like the Dixie Chicks' comments. But too bad; such is life in a democracy such as ours. The outrage over these women's comments, however, as well as the record burning and country station bannings, is childish. Part of the maturation process involves dealing with people who have different opinions than one's own. If FreeRepublic.com and Sean Hannity and the rest of them don't like the fact that the Dixie Chicks have the freedom of speech, I recommend that they move to France.

To say that the Dixie Chicks have committed treason is equally ludicrous. I would submit that those who say that the President is above reproach or question simply because we're at war are the true traitors - not a country/rock group that had that "audacity" to express an opinion.

It doesn't matter whether or not we're at war. The Bill of Rights wasn't meant to be conveniently fogotten during wartime; it either applies all the time or not at all.

Is this President so important that he deserves such defense? What's more important to these people: freedom or an incompetent President? If the latter is their answer, I'd seriously recommend that the anti-Dixie Chick fools reexamine their priorities.

These women have nothing to be ashamed of. The only people that should be ashamed are the people who have gone to such lengths to ban the Dixie Chicks since Maines' comments.
Ringo

These women have nothing to be ashamed of. The only people that should be ashamed are the people who have gone to such lengths to ban the Dixie Chicks since Maines' comments.

You are being hypocritical. Just as much as the dixie chicks have a right to voice their opinions, so do the people that disagree - and you don't like that, obviously.

Protesting, burning cd's and such is covered by freedom of speech.

Remember - freedom of speech is for all, not just the dixie chicks.

 

[FireQuest]

Bush is a criminal. He has the blood of 1,000's of Afghani's, Iraqi's and the people of New Orleans he left to die on his hands.

He lied about weapons of mass destruction, he was elected illegally.

May God help you to surrender your bitterness and hatred to Him.

 

[Ringo84]

These women have nothing to be ashamed of. The only people that should be ashamed are the people who have gone to such lengths to ban the Dixie Chicks since Maines' comments.

You are being hypocritical. Just as much as the dixie chicks have a right to voice their opinions, so do the people that disagree - and you don't like that, obviously.

Protesting, burning cd's and such is covered by freedom of speech.

Remember - freedom of speech is for all, not just the dixie chicks.

I've thought it over, and you're right. Freedom of speech does apply both ways. Even though I think the entire debate about the Dixie Chicks was ludicrous, people can burn Dixie Chicks CDs and paraphenalia if they so choose. Having said that, however, the death threats were going too far.
Ringo