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1Tim 5:18-19 references Deuteronomy@concretecamper what are the scriptures these verses refer to?
1 Timothy 5:18, 19; 1 Corinthians 15:1-8; Romans 16:25-27
Ah, for that question of how long this prayer is for (is it only for half a day, or one time is only enough for the mid day, etc.) -- we should trust Christ's wording above any other idea:praying the Lord’s Prayer three times a day. Of course its better to go beyond that.
That is not an explanation. That is an assertion based on nothing.Paul is talking about the prophecy of the Antichrist. What’s your point? Do you think the Antichrist has been on earth since the first century of Christianity? Do we have one world government yet? He will also come during the tribulations which is only a 7 year span. If you’re implying that the antichrist came during the first century of Christianity then that would mean he’s had almost a 2,000 year reign already.
Simple math. Timothy is born around 17 AD. The scriptures he knew from his youth? You figure it out. Ugh
The Lord Jesus Christ also said, as recorded at Matthew 10:9, 10, and Luke 10:7, "for the worker deserves his wages".1Tim 5:18-19 references Deuteronomy
It does not?1 Cor 15:1-8 doesn't mention Scripture
Can you quote the scripture? Where is the prophetic scripture now having been made manifest?Romans 16:25-27 OT prophets.
Try what? Changing your mind?Try again
I like that.Ah, for that question of how long this prayer is for (is it only for half a day, or one time is only enough for the mid day, etc.) -- we should trust Christ's wording above any other idea:
"11 Give us today our daily bread."
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 6:5-15 - New International Version
Prayer - “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father...www.biblegateway.com
Here, we've prayed for bread for the whole day.
I know how the word can be translated, but neither the Jews nor Christians read "kill".Yes the word is translated as kill or murder in the NT brother.
Precisely.If Timothy was born around 17 AD, when Paul wrote him this letter, Timothy would have been about 46 years old. Hardly a youth.
No, posting something you can reasonably defend.Try what? Changing your mind?
I have.No, posting something you can reasonably defend.
So far, you've been unable to post anything saying that 2 Tim 3:16 is referring to anything but the Tanakh.
It does not?1 Cor 15:1-8 doesn't mention Scripture
Yes, thank you. I think posting directly from the text will eliminate some unnecessary confusion based on the scholar's statements.
Yes. I am not contending that.
Thank you.
Good grief, stay on topic. We are not talking about the Septuagint. UghI have.
However, if you are comfortable denying that the apostles refered to the Greek scriptures as scripture, that is up to you my dear.
It's all here for all to read.
That is not an explanation. That is an assertion based on nothing.
Can you please explain 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 verse by verse... subject matter by subject matter.
Thank you.
I don't know if scholars interpreted that to mean, persons must become part of the church, or attend, in order to receive the word.
I’m pretty sure there’s nothing in the OT about Jesus being raised on the third day.No, posting something you can reasonably defend.
So far, you've been unable to post anything saying that 2 Tim 3:16 is referring to anything but the Tanakh.
He’s talking about the New Testament not the Septuagint.Good grief, stay on topic. We are not talking about the Septuagint. Ugh
An assertion based on nothing? If you back up a few verses you’ll see that Paul says that
“Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him,”
2 Thessalonians 2:1 NASB1995
He’s talking about Jesus’ second coming when the believers will be united with Him.
“that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.”
2 Thessalonians 2:2 NASB1995
He tells them not to believe in false claims of Christ’s return.
Apostasy? What's that?“Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,”
2 Thessalonians 2:3 NASB1995
He tells them that Christ’s coming will not come until after the antichrist.
Unless you see the book of Daniel mentioned there, you are not doing a verse by verse explanation, but are inserting your interpretation.“who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 NASB1995
Then he refers to the prophecy of the abomination of desolation from the book of Daniel.
Thank you.“And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.”
2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 NASB1995
I don’t know who is restraining him but apparently someone is.
Wait. Hold your horses a bit there.“Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;”
2 Thessalonians 2:8 NASB1995
Then Jesus will slay him when He returns.
Okay, so persons who do not love the truth are deceived.“that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.”
2 Thessalonians 2:9-10 NASB1995
Then he clarifies that the antichrist is the one who will be slain and he will perform fake signs and fake miracles for his followers who will be deceived by him who will also perish with him on judgement day in the lake of fire.
“For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.”
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 NASB1995
And because the followers of the antichrist loved wickedness Jesus allows them to be deceived so that they will meet their just fate.
I'll answer your question, once we get all the details.There’s your verse by verse explanation. So I’ll ask again, do you think that the antichrist came 2,000 years ago and began deceiving everyone already?
No Paul is referring to a specific man of lawlessness that is prophesied to come before Christ returns whom Christ will kill with the “sword coming out of His mouth”. You’ve already demonstrated that you have a significant understanding of the scriptures, there’s no way that you don’t see this.Can you please explain what scriptural basis you have for referring to the man of lawlessness as "the antichrist"?
Are they not many antichrists... plural? 1
That wasn't the point of 2 Tim 3:16.I’m pretty sure there’s nothing in the OT about Jesus being raised on the third day.
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