The Democrat's big lie

[Vambram]

By the way, has Biden even been seen since his announcement?

That is a good question. I hope that people have actually seen him in a private setting since his announcement.
Otherwise, I believe that the answer to your question is, "No."

 

[probinson]

You appropriated the term "Big Lie" to what?

That Biden was perfectly fine and was experiencing no mental or physical decline.

 

[civilwarbuff]

What a substantive rebuttal!

Never expect anything less from some of our more prodigious thinkers.

 

[probinson]

They wouldn't exactly want to SAY that even if they knew it to be true. Those people who proclaimed the emperor's fine threads, once they realize and admit to themselves that the emperor was indeed nekkid, may still not want to verbalize their whole error.

Exactly. No one in the Democratic Party has said that Biden doesn't have the mental capacity to run for a second term. They can't. If they did, calls for the 25th amendment would be through the roof.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Exactly. No one in the Democratic Party has said that Biden doesn't have the mental capacity to run for a second term. They can't. If they did, calls for the 25th amendment would be through the roof.

If he's somehow going to be incompetent to be president come January 2025 might he not be competent in July 2024?

Who IS running this country?

 

[rambot]

Regardless of everyone's insistence on ignoring the point and, while I'm sure there is background players, the characterization that Biden did not withdraw himself from the race seems to be the most prevalent one.

 

[probinson]

If he's somehow going to be incompetent to be president come January 2025 might he not be competent in July 2024?

Who IS running this country?

The Democrats really don't care, as long as it's not Trump.

 

[chevyontheriver]

The Democrats really don't care, as long as it's not Trump.

Our constitutional republic expects to have a named and functioning chief executive.

 

[probinson]

Our constitutional republic expects to have a named and functioning chief executive.

Agreed. But again, Democrats are perfectly content with "not Trump".

 

[BCP1928]

If what you say is true that he is "unwell", why isn't he stepping down?

Probably because he is deemed well enough to be at least a figurehead President but is not up to the stress of both holding office and campaigning. He may yet step down. It's even possible that he will die before November. But even if he does resign the Presidency, it won't be until after the convention, for obvious reasons.

 

[BCP1928]

Agreed. But again, Democrats are perfectly content with "not Trump".

Not content, I think, but resigned to it.

 

[civilwarbuff]

I think the most disappointing aspect of this entire drama is a complicit press. They always seem to want to shout 'Freedom of the Press' but they fail to exercise it when needed the most: The the president is showing obvious signs of severe mental decline. No independent fact checking, no 'anonymous' interviews that could contradict the narrative. Of course, would the editors (the ultimate controllers of what gets printed/spoken/communicated to the public) even allow something that contradicts the WH/DNC narrative? This 'Shakespearean Drama' that still has a few acts to play out remind me of 2 quotes by a very infamous man: Joseph Goebbels.

1. If you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
2. Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.

Unfortunately very true words.

 

[probinson]

Not content, I think, but resigned to it.

No, I think content is the right word.

I've had people on this very forum tell me that if Biden were the candidate and he were dead, they'd still vote for him over Trump. That tells me that they don't care who is actually running the country, as long as it's not Trump, because if you vote for a dead man for President, there's no telling who is pulling the strings.

 

[BCP1928]

No, I think content is the right word.

I've had people on this very forum tell me that if Biden were the candidate and he were dead, they'd still vote for him over Trump. That tells me that they don't care who is actually running the country, as long as it's not Trump, because if you vote for a dead man for President, there's no telling who is pulling the strings.

As long as policy is being carried out, yes, I don't think anybody cares all that much.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Biden dropped out. His delegates are free. They can vote for who they want to now. This does not 'disenfranchise' anyone. It's just how the process works. They figure out what makes sense to them.

Except Biden did NOT release his delegates - they are gifted to Kamala - they went with the money to her.

 

[civilwarbuff]

If he's somehow going to be incompetent to be president come January 2025 might he not be competent in July 2024?

Who IS running this country?

Possible a 'shadow' government consisting of some cabinet members, senior white house staff (maybe though not likely also Harris). My opinion would be Jill Biden with advise from some trusted outsiders much like Edith Wilson did when Woodrow Wilson was sidelined by a stroke in late 1919 for a year.
Sometimes history does repeat itself.
The president could not be kept out of sight. By chance, Belgium’s King Albert I and Queen Elisabeth were traveling in the United States. Customarily, visiting heads of state called at the White House. Edith Wilson and Dr. Grayson carefully orchestrated an October 30 audience. A bearded Wilson—he had not shaved for four weeks—received the royals propped up in bed, curtains drawn and room dim. A blanket covered the president’s useless left arm, and staff seated the Belgians to his right, within his limited field of vision. Grayson and Edith Wilson stood by, ready to intervene, but for the duration of the 15-minute encounter Wilson was able to converse. The press reported the visit in a positive light, and the story made the front pages.

Obtaining any presidential action became a chore. Tumulty proved a bottleneck, prompting Wilson’s aides to inundate Grayson with memoranda and requests for action. The physician dutifully relayed these to Edith Wilson, but no one was ever sure if a response would follow.

Grayson flooded the press with Pollyannaish effusions regarding the president’s condition and “recovery.” He knew he was lying, he said later, blaming Edith Wilson’s powerful desire to hide the truth about her husband. Grayson’s bulletins met with skepticism, and Americans sensed something seriously amiss. Rumors multiplied that the president had gone insane, had contracted syphilis, was running naked through the Executive Mansion. Well-meaning citizens bombarded the White House by letter to suggest cures ranging from dandelion wine to Racahant, a concoction of arrowroot and cocoa, to a regime called the Bio-Dynamo-Chromatic System of Diagnosis.

Woodrow Wilson's Illness Left America without a President for 17 Months

Months after contracting the Spanish flu, Woodrow Wilson suffered a massive stroke, leaving his wife and doctor to run the country.

www.historynet.com

 

[iluvatar5150]

Except Biden did NOT release his delegates - they are gifted to Kamala - they went with the money to her.

On what do you base this claim? Biden's delegates aren't required to vote for her.

 

[chevyontheriver]

As long as policy is being carried out, yes, I don't think anybody cares all that much.

You better get the constitution changed because it calls for a chief executive. A named and active guy who signs the documents and all.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Except Biden did NOT release his delegates - they are gifted to Kamala - they went with the money to her.

I heard his delegates are free. If they are not free then they are bound to him and he WILL be the nominee.

 

[probinson]

On what do you base this claim? Biden's delegates aren't required to vote for her.

That's kind of funny. Democrats are coalescing around Harris because they are running out of time. They don't have time for dissent in the party. I'm sure the powers-that-be have made that clear. It's not time to consider options. It's time to rally around the chosen one. Time to comply.