The Danger of Creationism

[Astrid]

Thank you grammar police. I will leave atheist uncapitalized then. And Jews have the highest IQ. As far as fewer atheists in prison, are you sure about that? As a percentage? I can see not many atheists in prison when 99% of the population is Christian. Are you suggesting atheists are less likely to commit crimes? As a percentage? I'd like to see your evidence for that. Compared to say, Christians, Jews, Muslims, and whoever else.

You misread / read in things not said.

Rethink / reread what i said about iq.

As for prison i am not so stupid as to think atheists are
underrepresented coz of relative percent.

Look it up yourself, its true, proportionately fewer in
jail than Christians.

 

[Torah Keeper]

You misread / read in things not said.

Rethink / reread what i said about iq.

As for prison i am not so stupid as to think atheists are
underrepresented coz of relative percent.

Look it up yourself, its true, proportionately fewer in
jail than Christians.

Yeah I just looked it up. Apparently 17% of prisoners identify as atheist/no religion. Only .02-2% of those who are not religious, identify as atheist. This is basically just a case of misclassification. In your case, you identify as "Skeptic". If there was no option for that on a form, would you choose "no religion"?

So they don't seem underrepresented, considering they make up 3-9% of the U.S. population. Statistics are all over the place here.

But making a false divide between atheists and "no religion" is what makes it seem like atheists are underrepresented. Obviously atheists choose to identify as no religion because it is a more politically correct and perceived less "evil" designation than atheist.

And 17% is actually overrepresented. If atheists/no religion make up 3-9% of U.S. population, and are 17% of the prison population, that is not underrepresented at all.

However this is just USA. I have no idea what percentage of religious persons are in Hong Kong jails.

 

[Torah Keeper]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism. There is no meaning or purpose to life. There is no reason to live. There is no hope of an afterlive. No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die. Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief. Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much.

 

[Astrid]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism. There is no meaning or purpose to life. There is no reason to live. There is no hope of an afterlive. No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die. Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief. Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much.

You have no idea, at all, what you are talking about
though we detect a very very broad streak of
uncharitable prejudice to go with the ignorance.

Fortunately, i seldom encounter someone who
thinks being a Christian vaults them to a position
of such assumed superiority.

I will hope for your recovery.

 

[AV1611VET]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism. There is no meaning or purpose to life. There is no reason to live. There is no hope of an afterlive. No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die. Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief. Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much.

 

[Ophiolite]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism.

Balderdash! If your claim were true then atheists would be routinely engaged in evil acts and largely devoid of any good ones. Feel free to provide evidence (not empty assertions) that this is the case.

There is no meaning or purpose to life.

Balderdash! Just as Christians choose how they will honour God, atheists choose how they shall live their life and what they shall make its objective. And, just as some Christians fail to follow a Christian path, so some atheists make a lacklustre effort of choosing a meaningful goal in life. Quel surpris, humans are fallible.

There is no reason to live.

Balderdash! There is every reason to live. There is a whole universe to learn about. There is planet filled with people to work with, to laugh with, to cry with, to love and to help. There are challenges to meet and goals to achieve.

There is no hope of an afterlive.

All the more reason to make the most of this one shot we have of appreciating an astounding universe, a diverse planet and of contributing to society and all its members.

No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die.

As above.

Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief.

My life is not meaningless and any sadness I feel is for others and my inability to engage with and encourage more than a tiny fraction of them.

Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much

Either provide substantive meta-studies, by recognised researchers in a bona fide journal, or retract that statement.

 

[TLK Valentine]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism. There is no meaning or purpose to life. There is no reason to live. There is no hope of an afterlive. No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die. Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief. Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much.

Who told you to think all this?

 

[Ophiolite]

Thank you grammar police. I will leave atheist uncapitalized then

I don't think the objection was on grammatical grounds. We capitalise Christian and Moslem and Hindu, etc. because they relate to important belief systems. Atheism, despite never-ending streams of fatuous objections to the contrary, is not a belief system. (If it is a system of any kind it would be a disbelief system.) But I am confident that most will appreciate your willingness to decapitalise.

 

[Astrid]

Thank you grammar police. I will leave atheist uncapitalized then. And Jews have the highest IQ. As far as fewer atheists in prison, are you sure about that? As a percentage? I can see not many atheists in prison when 99% of the population is Christian. Are you suggesting atheists are less likely to commit crimes? As a percentage? I'd like to see your evidence for that. Compared to say, Christians, Jews, Muslims, and whoever else.

Atheists are 0.7 percent of US population. 0.1 in prison.

Asian students- Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore,
outdoeveryone else, but why you want to inject " race" or think IQ
is race based s unclear.
Perhaps its groovy? I dont think so.

 

[Astrid]

Thank you grammar police. I will leave atheist uncapitalized then. And Jews have the highest IQ. As far as fewer atheists in prison, are you sure about that? As a percentage? I can see not many atheists in prison when 99% of the population is Christian. Are you suggesting atheists are less likely to commit crimes? As a percentage? I'd like to see your evidence for that. Compared to say, Christians, Jews, Muslims, and whoever else.

 

[Torah Keeper]

You have no idea, at all, what you are talking about
though we detect a very very broad streak of
uncharitable prejudice to go with the ignorance.

Fortunately, i seldom encountervsomeone who
thinks being a Christian vaults them to a position
of such assumed superiority.

I will hope for your recovery.

I will hope for your salvation.

Atheists are 0.7 percent of US population. 0.1 in prison.

Asian students- Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore,
outdoeveryone else, but why you want to inject " race" or think IQ
is race based s unclear.
Perhaps its groovy? I dont think so.

Apparently your sources are different than mine.

 

[sjastro]

But back to my main point. Atheism is dangerous because atheists have no moral compass. There is no such thing as good or evil in atheism. There is no meaning or purpose to life. There is no reason to live. There is no hope of an afterlive. No hope of ever seeing loved ones again after they die. Atheism is a very sad and meaningless belief. Perhaps that is why atheists commit suicide so much.

I thought my posts on hairy atheists and members from the ILCAM (Institute of Lapsed Catholics and Applied Mathematicians) having the highest IQs was bad enough but the quoted post sinks lower.

My sister who happens to be an atheist and a psychologist will tell you lacking a moral compass is a symptom of an antisocial personality disorder and is found in psychopathic and sociopathic personalities.
Such personalities don't necessarily end up as serial killers, they can be extraordinarily ambitious and reach the top at any cost; politicians and senior executives such as CEOs come to mind.
Senior Executives Are More Likely To Be Psychopaths

Labelling atheists as lacking a moral compass is the psychology of stereotyping.

 

[Astrid]

I will hope for your salvation.



Apparently your sources are different than mine.

I will hope for your personal growth re terrible attitude toward people you
know nothing ( zero ) about.

And in your goog skill.

 

[Astrid]

I thought my posts on hairy atheists and members from the ILCAM (Institute of Lapsed Catholics and Applied Mathematicians) having the highest IQs was bad enough but the quoted post sinks lower.

My sister who happens to be an atheist and a psychologist will tell you lacking a moral compass is a symptom of an antisocial personality disorder and is found in psychopathic and sociopathic personalities.
Such personalities don't necessarily end up as serial killers, they can be extraordinarily ambitious and reach the top at any cost; politicians and senior executives such as CEOs come to mind.
Senior Executives Are More Likely To Be Psychopaths

Labelling atheists as lacking a moral compass is the psychology of stereotyping.

Id say its a measure worse than that.

 

[sjastro]

Id say its a measure worse than that.

Being prejudiced through stereotyping is far less an evil than acting out on one's prejudices.

 

[Torah Keeper]

So atheists should write a book on what their absolute morals are, and stick to that. If your morals are whatever you want, then you have no morals.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So atheists should write a book on what their absolute morals are, and stick to that. If your morals are whatever you want, then you have no morals.

Many such books on morality *have* been written by atheists.

If you're expecting there to be one *master* book for all atheists, it's not going to happen since atheists are some sort of unified group.

All you need to do to become an atheist is to pass the simple entrance quiz:

Q: Do you believe in a god?

If the answers is "no", congratulations and welcome to the "club".

 

[Astrid]

Being prejudiced through stereotyping is far less an evil than acting out on one's prejudices.

True.
I had a "christian" tell me what he wants to do to
atheists.

Its not necessarily a huge jump for some to get
from intense negative feelings to action.

Mob violence v blacks was a common thing in the us at one time.

 

[Opdrey]

So atheists should write a book on what their absolute morals are, and stick to that. If your morals are whatever you want, then you have no morals.

Which is superior: a morality predicated on reason or a morality predicated on being told what to do by some unknown ancient scribes?

In the long-run they will likely look a lot alike (be nice to each other, don't kill anyone without cause, don't steal from others...etc.). The biggest difference is that the unknown ancient scribes may also include threats should you fail to hold their god(s) in highest esteem.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I will hope for your salvation.

And we shall hope for yours.

Apparently your sources are different than mine.

Apparently so.