The Consequences of Creationism

[PrincetonGuy]

It is my personal belief that the teaching of creation “science” is one of the most dangerous threats facing the evangelical Christian Church today. I believe that it is an especially dangerous threat because it makes evangelical Christians appear to be intellectually challenged baboons suffering from the late stages of dementia. I also believe that organizations like the ICR (Institute for Creation Research) and AiG (Answers in Genesis) make evangelical Christians appear to be not only grossly ignorant of the natural sciences, but liars and deceivers who are more than willing to commit any sin necessary in order to make the theory of evolution appear to be indefensible.


What is your take on this matter?

 

[Gracchus]

Evangelical Christians are not baboons.

 

[FSHWILDFIRE]

I agree. I am opposed to YEC. As one who is doing a minor in Geology in my studies, it is clear that the Earth is not 6000 years old.

 

[70judge]

willfully ignorant is closer to the correct discription.

It is my personal belief that the teaching of creation “science” is one of the most dangerous threats facing the evangelical Christian Church today. I believe that it is an especially dangerous threat because it makes evangelical Christians appear to be intellectually challenged baboons suffering from the late stages of dementia. I also believe that organizations like the ICR (Institute for Creation Research) and AiG (Answers in Genesis) make evangelical Christians appear to be not only grossly ignorant of the natural sciences, but liars and deceivers who are more than willing to commit any sin necessary in order to make the theory of evolution appear to be indefensible.


What is your take on this matter?

 

[john crawford]

It is my personal belief that the teaching of creation “science” is one of the most dangerous threats facing the evangelical Christian Church today. I believe that it is an especially dangerous threat because it makes evangelical Christians appear to be intellectually challenged baboons suffering from the late stages of dementia. I also believe that organizations like the ICR (Institute for Creation Research) and AiG (Answers in Genesis) make evangelical Christians appear to be not only grossly ignorant of the natural sciences, but liars and deceivers who are more than willing to commit any sin necessary in order to make the theory of evolution appear to be indefensible.


What is your take on this matter?

You sure have some strange personal religious beliefs about intelligent evangelical Christians and intellectually challenged neo-Darwinist ape theorists who may be suffering from advanced stages of scientific dementia.

Take that, since that's my "take on the matter" and you can take it or leave it at that.

 

[john crawford]

Evangelical Christians are not baboons.

Neither are they demented neo-Darwinist ape theorists.
This ought to be a short-lived thread.

 

[john crawford]

I agree. I am opposed to YEC. As one who is doing a minor in Geology in my studies, it is clear that the Earth is not 6000 years old.

Absolutely. It is clear that the earth is at least 9996 years old, give or take a few years.

 

[FSHWILDFIRE]

May I ask for the evidence?

 

[chaoschristian]

I think you overstate the case somewhat, but I do agree that there is a dangerous element associated with Creationism/ID, but I don't agree with you on what it is.

As the Dover School Board case and the ongoing struggles in Kansas serve to illustrate, there is an element of the Creationism/ID population who seek to further their agenda through political means. In the Dover case in particular (and the one I'm most familiar with since I live not all that far away from Dover) we see good Christians using (and what I would characterize as abusing - they did resort to deception after all) their public influence and trust to further what is essentially and evangelical agenda.

This is wrong. I believe the Gospels and especially the teachings and actions of Jesus are quite clear when it comes to political power - DO NOT SEEK IT. Political power corrupts and defiles the heart of the Christian message, and there is no reconciliation between the two. To seek to expand or extend the evangelism of Christianity through political means results in the necessary corruption of the Gospel message.

This is the real danger inherent in Creationism/ID, and why that element of that populace do more to hurt the faith than they do to serve it.

 

[FSHWILDFIRE]

well said

 

[Dal M.]

What is your take on this matter?

If creationism were true, then it'd be true regardless of its negative consequences. Fact is fact, even if it promotes moral decay, the destruction of traditional values, low bone density in children, etc., etc.

However, since creationism is manifestly untrue, we don't really have to worry about that.

 

[dad]

It is my personal belief that the teaching of creation “science” is one of the most dangerous threats facing the evangelical Christian Church today.

Why, some might end up actually believing?

I believe that it is an especially dangerous threat because it makes evangelical Christians appear to be intellectually challenged baboons suffering from the late stages of dementia.

Since you think men came from baboons, it kind of doesn't much matter.

I also believe that organizations like the ICR (Institute for Creation Research) and AiG (Answers in Genesis) make evangelical Christians appear to be not only grossly ignorant of the natural sciences,

God's biggest commandment now? 'Be ye sharp in the soon to dissapear, bible contradicting spirit blind, natural only so called sciences'?

but liars and deceivers who are more than willing to commit any sin necessary in order to make the theory of evolution appear to be indefensible.

So, now they are a bunch of wild eyed terrorists, willing to do anything, and commit any sin because they are not stuck in your stinking little natural only box!? I'd say maybe you might review your sell out, fraidy cat, accusatory, little freak out of an opinion! To me the word of the Prince is worth a ton, not the stuff they serve up at Princeton.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Well PrincetonGuy. It looks like dad has stepped into the breech and proven your point for you. (With a little help from John Crawford)

F.B.

 

[john crawford]

May I ask for the evidence?

Sure, but you wouldn't know what to make of it or how to correctly interpret it, so why bother asking?

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Sure, but you wouldn't know what to make of it or how to correctly interpret it, so why bother asking?

In other words you have nothing but PRATTS to support your young earth mythology.

F.B.

 

[john crawford]

Political power corrupts and defiles the heart of the Christian message, and there is no reconciliation between the two.

If, as you claim, political power corrupts, why should Christians tolerate any corrupt political power over them which, as you say, defiles the heart of the Christian message? Advising Christians not to vote for Christian politicians amounts to a guarantee of political suppression of Christians by corrupt non-Christian politicians. Since secular and atheistic politics are corrupt, by your own definition and admission, why should any Christian vote for atheistic or secular policies unless they are politically schizophrenic?

 

[john crawford]

well said

Not very well thought out though, considering the political implications.

 

[john crawford]

However, since creationism is manifestly untrue, we don't really have to worry about that.

Creationism can only be authoritatively said to be "manifestly untrue" by neo-Darwinist race theorists who promulgate pseudo-scientific beliefs in the origins of so-called "primitive" African people from common ape and monkey ancestors.

 

[Gracchus]

May I ask for the evidence?

Sure, but you wouldn't know what to make of it or how to correctly interpret it, so why bother asking?

So, john crawford, you admit your rhetorical skills are inadequate to explain your thoughts clearly? It must be lonely to be so intelligent you can’t communicate with lesser intellects.

I abase myself before your divine mentality...

 

[john crawford]

Well PrincetonGuy. It looks like dad has stepped into the breech and proven your point for you. (With a little help from John Crawford)

F.B.

Whaddya mean - "a little help from John Crawford," Frumious Bandersnatch?