The Colin Patterson quote: No Intermediate Fossils

[Subduction Zone]

Promoter of truth, no. Out to win an argument, yes.

And you want us to reply to your posts?

The fossil record shows the process of Evolution never happened. Other knowledgeable people of the subject matter who are still open and seeking the truth ssy the same of the ffossil record after careful examination. What is your problem? Pure contention rather than scientific discussion?

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I see I have to remind you again that the fossil record supports evolution and only evolution.

There is no scientific evidence that supports creationism. Too bad you never took a stratigraphy course in your lifetime, you might be able to appreciate that fact if you had.

 

[Subduction Zone]

FYI, I'm sure YEC think that radiometric dating methods are "Gish Gallop" too.

You do not know what a Gish Gallop is.

That is rather sad since I have seen you do one.

People on the side of science are willing to discuss one item, in detail. at length. If you are not willing to do so that is an indicator that you are on the fringe. Or beyond.

 

[Heissonear]

I see I have to remind you again that the fossil record supports evolution and only evolution.

There is no scientific evidence that supports creationism. Too bad you never took a stratigraphy course in your lifetime, you might be able to appreciate that fact if you had.

Major disinformation is your ploy! You reversed every point of truth!

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[Paulos23]

Major disinformation is your ploy! You reversed every point of truth!

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And you have yet to provide evidence to the contrary! You just make claims that support your world view, don't provide evidence, and don't listen when counter evidence comes up.

 

[Stethacanthus]

Sorry, but that's totally wrong. I posted a thread on precisely this topic a week or so ago and "lasthero" got the thread locked by pitching a temper tantrum, but it's still three, read the OP, Sir Arthur Keith's "Evolution and Ethics":

Important to note that Hitler explicitly stated that he was doing God's work in Mein Kampf with relation to treatment and distrust of the Jewish people in Germany. The reason that he had them killed was because he was really big on German nationalism, and he had decided that Jewish people were not Germans.

The Jewish Germans had been on the blamed end in many conspiracy theories regarding why Germany surrendered during WWI when they were still holding ground in France. Most Germans were Lutheran Christians that were taught for hundreds of year that the Jewish people were responsible for the death of Jesus. Antisemitism and all other racism really was a LOT more common back then.

He did what he did because he felt that this was necessary to secure a stable future for the ideal Germany that had been envisioned long before he was ever even alive: a Germany populated exclusively by Germans. He argued that Germans were the superior race and he undertook the process of eliminating "impurities" in the population for both racial and ideological differences. He killed Jewish people, black people, homosexual people, communists, pretty much anybody who was not a German Nazi.

He did NOT support Darwin by the way. The Origin of the Species was one of the books that he had burned. It supported common ancestry, which undermined his claims of a superior German population.

In short, Hitler was not trying to make Germans into the perfect race, but rather to prove that "pure" Germans were already the most superior race and to build a nation entirely composed of them.

 

[Loudmouth]

Promoter of truth, no. Out to win an argument, yes.

So says the person who is trying to distract everyone away from the fact that experts do say that there are transitional fossils.

The fossil record shows the process of Evolution never happened.

Why does the presence of numerous transitional fossils show that evolution never happened?

Why do you continue to lie about the presence of transitional fossils in the fossil record?

 

[Loudmouth]

Major disinformation is your ploy! You reversed every point of truth!

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The only disinformation is that all the experts say that there are no transitional fossils. When will a single creationist retract this claim, especially in the face of direct quotes from experts saying that there are transitional fossils?

 

[Michael]

In short, Hitler was not trying to make Germans into the perfect race, but rather to prove that "pure" Germans were already the most superior race and to build a nation entirely composed of them.

Actually, I just watched a documentary a few weeks ago (I'll try to round you up a link when I can remember the name of it) on the weird beliefs of the Nazi elite and particularly Himmler and the SS. Apparently Hitler and Himmler believed that Germanic people came from a superior (white) race, that defiled themselves in the ancient past by interbreeding with "inferior" races. They evidently believed that by wiping out inferior races, the "purity" of the superior Germanic race would improve, and they'd gain back their superpowers. Apparently they had special powers before interbreeding with inferior races. There was actually a very methodical attempt at "ethnic cleansing" by the Nazi elite.

According to their weird beliefs, Jews were considered the most inferior of all the races and wiping them out completely was a primary goal of the SS. Killing all the Jews was a necessary "final solution" to their goal of ethnic cleansing.

It's not like the Russians really fared any better at the hands of Germans mind you, and they were also slaughtered by the millions, but there was actually a methodical attempt by the SS to completely wipe out the Jewish population from the face of the Earth.

As you note, other handicapped individuals, mentally ill patients, etc, all suffered the same fate of outright extermination, but the concept of ethnic purity and the intent to eradicate the Jewish population were in fact primary goals of the SS. They were very much intent trying to "purify" the DNA in their twisted minds.

When I can remember the name of it, I'll find you a link. It was something about secret occult beliefs of the SS or something like that. Himmler was apparently a primary orchestrator of the 'final solution' aspect.

 

[Loudmouth]

Actually, I just watched a documentary a few weeks ago (I'll try to round you up a link when I can remember the name of it) on the weird beliefs of the Nazi elite and particularly Himmler and the SS. Apparently Hitler and Himmler believed that Germanic people came from a superior (white) race, that defiled themselves in the ancient past by interbreeding with "inferior" races. They evidently believed that by wiping out inferior races, the "purity" of the superior Germanic race would improve, and they'd gain back their superpowers. Apparently they had special powers before interbreeding with inferior races. There was actually a very methodical attempt at "ethnic cleansing" by the Nazi elite.

According to their weird beliefs, Jews were considered the most inferior of all the races and wiping them out completely was a primary goal of the SS. Killing all the Jews was a necessary "final solution" to their goal of ethnic cleansing.

It's not like the Russians really fared any better at the hands of Germans mind you, and they were also slaughtered by the millions, but there was actually a methodical attempt by the SS to completely wipe out the Jewish population from the face of the Earth.

As you note, other handicapped individuals, mentally ill patients, etc, all suffered the same fate of outright extermination, but the concept of ethnic purity and the intent to eradicate the Jewish population were in fact primary goals of the SS. They were very much intent trying to "purify" the DNA in their twisted minds.

When I can remember the name of it, I'll find you a link. It was something about secret occult beliefs of the SS or something like that. Himmler was apparently a primary orchestrator of the 'final solution' aspect.

I have heard that Hitler was also a Heliocentrist. Why doesn't everyone start a thread on the evils of Heliocentrism and focus on the topic of this thread.

 

[bhsmte]

Most importantly, Hitler was psychologically impaired, big time!

 

[Michael]

I have heard that Hitler was also a Heliocentrist. Why doesn't everyone start a thread on the evils of Heliocentrism and focus on the topic of this thread.

Ok, admittedly, Hitler and Hitler's goals were completely irrelevant in terms of this thread, and in terms of fossil evidence. I just thought the documentary provided some useful insights from a historical perspective.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ok, admittedly, Hitler and Hitler's goals were completely irrelevant in terms of this thread, and in terms of fossil evidence. I just thought the documentary provided some useful insights from a historical perspective.

Evolution is a rationalization for the Holocaust in the same way that the Theory of Gravity is a rationalization for pushing someone off of a tall building. Adding a historical perspective doesn't change this fact. Nowhere in the theory of evolution does it say that humans should kill of those they deem inferior, nor the most inferior of any species. Nowhere. Scientific theories are a description, not a prescription. Sadly, creationists can't seem to figure this out so we get the Hitler red herring whenever the evidence starts to stack up against them.

 

[Michael]

Evolution is a rationalization for the Holocaust in the same way that the Theory of Gravity is a rationalization for pushing someone off of a tall building. Adding a historical perspective doesn't change this fact. Nowhere in the theory of evolution does it say that humans should kill of those they deem inferior, nor the most inferior of any species. Nowhere. Scientific theories are a description, not a prescription. Sadly, creationists can't seem to figure this out so we get the Hitler red herring whenever the evidence starts to stack up against them.

I absolutely agree with you that it's a red herring and unrelated to the issue of evolutionary theory or fossil evidence. Smear by association, distract, lather rinse repeat.

 

[Strathos]

Evolution is a rationalization for the Holocaust in the same way that the Theory of Gravity is a rationalization for pushing someone off of a tall building. Adding a historical perspective doesn't change this fact. Nowhere in the theory of evolution does it say that humans should kill of those they deem inferior, nor the most inferior of any species. Nowhere. Scientific theories are a description, not a prescription. Sadly, creationists can't seem to figure this out so we get the Hitler red herring whenever the evidence starts to stack up against them.

The same is true for people who say that Hitler did what he did because of Christian beliefs.