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The Chapter-A-Day thread. (2)

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Re: 1 Samuel 4: Here we have the people of Israel looking at the ark of God as if it is a "magic" thing and will protect them, instead of looking to the God of the Ark of the covenant (the God of Israel, the One to be worshiped and looked to, but they did not...how INSULTING is that?) and then Eli's son's actually allowed them to "take" the ark?

Well it only gets more interesting from here...not only was Israel defeated time after time, but Eli's sons are killed and when someone runs to tell Eli what had transpired, Eli, who was sitting on a seat, fell backwards, breaking his neck...and his neck apparently broke because the sheer weight of him broke his neck. Now what is interesting is that it wasn't the news of his sons deaths that caused him to fall backwards, it was the news that the Ark of God was taken.

Tragic.

Then the wife of Eli's son Phinehas, was with child, heard the news, and died while giving birth to a son. He was named Ichabod, because the glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken, and because of her father in law and her husband. And she said, The glory is departed from Israel: for the ark of God is taken.

Tragic.
 
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Brinny

Perhaps it is not a good idea to have two wives.
 
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Eli was a priest. It is odd that his two sons were evil. It seems that the two sons of Eli did not believe in God.
 
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We are not told why Eli could not keep his two sons under control, except that he was very old.
 
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Eli would be a good study of himself. This verse sorta sums up Eli's heart towards God (Eli's sons were only a "symptom" of the problem that was at the root of Eli's heart towards God):

Verse 29: Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and at mine offering, which I have commanded in my habitation; and honourest thy sons above me, to make yourselves fat with the chiefest of all the offerings of Israel my people?
 
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Brinny

And the ark of God was taken.
I Samuel 4 verse 1

And Eli had judged Israel forty years.
I Samuel 4 verse 18

Brinny Eli was the judge of Israel, but he could not keep his own two sons in order.
 
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Yes Brinny

And honour thy sons above me.

I Samuel 2 verse 29

You are right. This verse sums up the whole problem.

This explains why Eli could not control his two sons.
 
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Awesome! God bless you and beautiful England too! And thank you for bearing with me as i'm thinkin' out loud on this thread...a lot goes through my mind as i'm reading the verses...and it's also a bit like Shiny says...i can almost "see" some of it like i'm watching a movie....

i hopw Shiny is better soon...she's missed....so are bcmom and Gracie.....

i LOVE this thread...it's helped me enormously to even BEGIN reading Old Testament books....

'tis a blessing...so are your comments n' ev'rybody else's.....

g'nite
 
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Brinny thank you for your wonderful words of wisdom.

This is a beautiful thread. It has been a great blessing to me.
 
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The Sons of Eli

The sons of Eli, Hophni and Pinehas, meanwhile, were behaving wickedly, for example by taking for themselves all the prime cuts of meat from sacrifices, and by committing adultery with the women who served at the sanctuary entrance.

Eli is aware of their behavior but he rebukes them too lightly and is unable to stop them. The sons continue in their sinful behavior, and so, according to the text, a man of God prophesies to Eli that Eli and his family will be punished for this, with all male descendants dying before reaching old age and being usually placed in positions subservient to prophess from other lineages.

The curse alludes to a previous (not appearing elsewhere in the Bible) promise from Yahweh of Eli's lineage continuing eternally. While this continuation is not revoked, a curse is placed on all of Eli's male descendants forever. As a sign of the accuracy of this future, Eli is told by the man of Yahweh that his sons will die on the same day.
 
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Re: 1 Samuel 5: So the Philistines have the ark of God and they put it into the temple of Dagon, right beside the God they worshiped (Dagon the fish-god).

And lo and behold, the next morning they go in there and their god Dagon had fallen on his face before the ark of God. (sometimes i wonder if God has a sense of humor)

Sooooo they set him back up, and the NEXT morning they go in there, and it must'a reeeeeeally shook 'em cuz Dagon not only was, again, fallen on his face before the ark of God, his palms were cut off and so was his head! And he was only a stump. THEN it says in verse 5:

verse 5: Therefore neither the priests of Dagon, nor any that come into Dagon's house, tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod unto this day.

This means that they were so shook up that the priests nor ANYONE ever set foot into Dagon's temple again, right?

And God plagued them with emerods (Tumors; hemorrhoids) in verse 6:

verse 6: But the hand of the LORD was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them with emerods, even Ashdod and the coasts thereof.

Soooooo they get even more scared and desperately try to take the ark of God elsewhere (i wonder how they even got it if no one ever set foot into Dagon's temple again?)

So there they are, carrying the ark of God, and they take it to Gath. And here's what happened in verse 9:

verse 9: And it was so, that, after they had carried it about, the hand of the LORD was against the city with a very great destruction: and he smote the men of the city, both small and great, and they had emerods in their secret parts.

And in verses 10-12 the chapter ends with a severe reminder of WHO is God, and that HE is El Elyon, the living God and there is NONE like Him, and a reminder of WHOSE ark it is.

10 Therefore they sent the ark of God to Ekron. And it came to pass, as the ark of God came to Ekron, that the Ekronites cried out, saying, They have brought about the ark of the God of Israel to us, to slay us and our people.

11 So they sent and gathered together all the lords of the Philistines, and said, Send away the ark of the God of Israel, and let it go again to his own place, that it slay us not, and our people: for there was a deadly destruction throughout all the city; the hand of God was very heavy there.

12 And the men that died not were smitten with the emerods: and the cry of the city went up to heaven.
 
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