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The Call by Pastor Rick Joyner?

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"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." (John 10 10) A house divided against itself cannot stand. (Matthew 12:25)
 
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"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." (John 10 10) A house divided against itself cannot stand. (Matthew 12:25)


I agree..... but this could turn out to be somewhat more complex................

When Adam and Eve fell it seems like a version of them was created in four dimensional space -time but....... did their higher invisible dimensional soul or over soul.......still perhaps exist in higher dimensions like fifth,sixth, seventh, eight or ninth-dimensional space - time??????????

The near death experience account of Dr. George Ritchie seems to leave the door open to that possibility...... at least that is what I personally get out of this statement??????


Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience


Could a relatively unfallen version of Adam and Eve could perhaps exist in a higher invisible dimension of space - time exist?????

That is how I understand some of the possible implications of String Theory if it is combined with some of the near death experience accounts and other similar experiences???


If... there could perhaps be a more fundamental energy version of Adam and Eve out there ...... could there be a relatively un-fallen version of a former Covering Cherub recorded there in the memory of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?????


Could Satan to some degree be like Stanley Milgram Ph.D?
 
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Really? Now you are supposing something which is more of a fantasy. This is Satanic teaching as per Gnostics and Masonic etc. The only person we look to is Jesus Christ.
 
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Really? Now you are supposing something which is more of a fantasy. This is Satanic teaching as per Gnostics and Masonic etc. The only person we look to is Jesus Christ.


You could be correct..... but if Satanists will think about the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. experiment they may come to realize that just as Stanley Milgram himself would hold the people in the most contempt who obeyed and obeyed the authority figure.......
to the point where they hit the button to zap the learner subject to the point where their life would have been in danger if the Learner Subject had not been an actor...... acting as if they were getting an electric shock...........

.. .then this could assist many Satanists to break out of Satanism and recognize that they are being tricked.

Amazing details are given after the twenty two minute and twenty nine second mark in this video on this type of thing and how totally witches are being tricked by Satan.


The Mystery Of The Power Words @ The River Of Waupun Session Sixteen
 
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Why would human beings who are made in God's image follow Satan? My opinion is that there are two reasons.
1) Power. Satan grants instant power to people maybe not all people but many. Our Lord does not grant instant power. Power is a drug and if wielded without love becomes a tool to subject people to slavery which is Satan's objective but our God wants people to wield power in Love so that we help and show people the Way to Salvation.
2) Riches. Satan grants riches to those who worship him. Believe it or not some people follow Satan for riches only they are not interested in the power.

Of course with either of these scenarios when you dance with the devil you can only stop when the devil says stop and he doesn't say stop. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can break through to these people. Whichever reason people use to follow Satan they will become enveloped in evil and unless they become sick of their evil they will not repent. I believe many Satanists have repented and followed Jesus over the years and it is prayer, the Holy Spirit and a loving witness which will create the break through.
 
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Well said!

I find the testimony of Evangelist John Ramirez to be truly encouraging and proof that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus can reach the extremely lost and within days give them such zeal and love for others that they inspire entire churches to go to a deeper level of repentance.

Can some people astral project and put curses on people?
 
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This part of his visionary dream where he met with the Patriarch Adam is really inspiring and helped me to come to a deeper level of forgiveness for Adam.

 
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Greetings, K2K.

Thoroughly enjoyed reading several of your posts. To your point, for me the content contained in Joyner's visions has always been of a much higher quality than his personal writings, the reason being that what the Spirit Himself speaks is far more Spirit-breathed.

About being guided personally, I too have come to the place where He gives me dreams that inform me about my current course in life. Received one just a few days ago that I was about to wear out my welcome at a small forum I had just joined that has some dear friends in it (I teach a rather demanding doctrine; that believers themselves are responsible for whether they will receive the supernatural gifts, based upon whether or not they dedicate themselves to travailing and agonizing in prayer for them, and to what extent).

Anyway, the morning I received it, I knew the meaning of the dream, but I assumed it might have to do with someone else. Not sure, I asked if it was about me or someone else. He said, "You will see." By that evening I knew for certain it was indeed about me, and that it was unfortunately time to move on... I could go into much more detail, but the point is that the Lord saved me from offending people I care about and ostracizing myself in the process. I receive about one such dream a month, and they always keep me on track spiritually, always heading directly towards the fulfillment of my calling without deviation.

I think those who are not moving in such things are depriving themselves of personal direction from the Holy Spirit. I have dedicated my entire life to the written word of God, but while the Lord uses the written word to teach me incessantly, He uses the Spirit to give me revelation concerning what I am reading, and it often comes only if I specifically ASK Him for it; a point you were driving home to Oscarr. He likewise grants me revelation through dreams to guide me in my personal life, and I don't believe believers ought to be made to believe they must choose between one or the other.

Thank you for your posts. I find them refreshing. While I receive wisdom from the Lord, I don't always read it on the forums very often.

God bless,
Hidden
 
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Rick Joyner and people like him are nothing


Oscarr, I know from having watched videos of his that Joyner is not only a genuine born again believer but has a true heart of love for the body of Christ. In your eyes such a person is "nothing."

Dennis Tate, K2K, Steven Beck, Heart2Soul and I are "people like him." Are we all "nothing" in your eyes as well?

You should check your heart before saying things like this.
 
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