The Bible's Compatibility with Theistic Evolution

[lismore]

How can it be incompatible with Scripture if the Scripture does not describe in absolute detail how God actually went about creating the universe and the world and giving particular time-frames instead of general "days" which could not be 24 hour ones, especially before the sun and moon were put in place, and then there is no indication that the time-frame was shortened afterward. The Scripture simply does not give enough information to support the statement that the OP was definitely incompatible with Scripture and is wrong.

Hi Oscarr.

In this passage from Exodus 20, God himself speaking he link the seven days of creation to our seven day week:
But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

 

[lismore]

How can there be 24 hour days without the sun?

The same way there is in Revelation:

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

God Bless

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

The same way there is in Revelation:

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

God Bless

So, does that mean then that in that city, 24 hour days are a thing of the past?

 

[lismore]

So, does that mean then that in that city, 24 hour days are a thing of the past?

Because God created in six twenty four hour days and rested on the seventh twenty four hour day we have our seven 24 hour day week, Exodus 20:11.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Because God created in six twenty four hour days and rested on the seventh twenty four hour day we have our seven 24 hour day week, Exodus 20:11.

I can't argue with that. You should feel privileged because this is just the second time I have conceded a point in my 12 years of being involved with CF!

But the Scripture you quoted about the city of God needing only the glory of God to give light to it, doesn't seem to match with 24 hour days, because there will no longer be any sun to provide day and night. Do you think there will be 24 hour days in heaven then?

 

[lismore]

I can't argue with that. You should feel privileged because this is just the second time I have conceded a point in my 12 years of being involved with CF!

But the Scripture you quoted about the city of God needing only the glory of God to give light to it, doesn't seem to match with 24 hour days, because there will no longer be any sun to provide day and night. Do you think there will be 24 hour days in heaven then?

Hi Oscarr. I don't think the twenty four hour day is marked by the sun. I believe the answer is in Exodus 20:11. Because God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in six twenty four hour days and rested on the seventh, this arrangement has been marked by God, hallowed, put into his most famous direct utterance to his people in the OT. 'And God spoke all these words'. It's not because of the sun, it's because the owner of the whole show puts his eternal mark on it,' I created this in seven literal days, it's mine'. Remember it in your seven day week, remember who created it and how long he took to create it. It's marked up there permanently for all to see. Even the biggest fool in the world knows how long a week is. And a week is that length as a reminder of who it all and who we all belong to. The athiests can't change God's week nor can those who like gaps or theistic evolutionists make us work for a million years without a weekend. God Bless

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Hi Oscarr. I don't think the twenty four hour day is marked by the sun. I believe the answer is in Exodus 20:11. Because God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in six twenty four hour days and rested on the seventh, this arrangement has been marked by God, hallowed, put into his most famous direct utterance to his people in the OT. 'And God spoke all these words'. It's not because of the sun, it's because the owner of the whole show puts his eternal mark on it,' I created this in seven literal days, it's mine'. Remember it in your seven day week, remember who created it and how long he took to create it. It's marked up there permanently for all to see. Even the biggest fool in the world knows how long a week is. And a week is that length as a reminder of who it all and who we all belong to. The athiests can't change God's week nor can those who like gaps or theistic evolutionists make us work for a million years without a weekend. God Bless

Because I have conceded, you are now preaching to the choir!
But you haven't taken my point about the city of God where there will be no sun! (I hate to labour that point).

 

[lismore]

Because I have conceded, you are now preaching to the choir!
But you haven't taken my point about the city of God where there will be no sun! (I hate to labour that point).

Hi Oscarr. The sun is a creation, the Son the creator. The day is defined by the creator. I think the 24 hr day, seven day week is an eternal ordinance put in place by God to remind us of Him, the creator. God Bless

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Hi Oscarr. The sun is a creation, the Son the creator. The day is defined by the creator. I think the 24 hr day, seven day week is an eternal ordinance put in place by God to remind us of Him, the creator. God Bless

OK. In the absence of no other evidence, I will take your word for it and sheath my sword.

 

[David Kent]

Hi Oscarr. The sun is a creation, the Son the creator. The day is defined by the creator. I think the 24 hr day, seven day week is an eternal ordinance put in place by God to remind us of Him, the creator. God Bless

Hi Lismore, I can't agree that the seven day weeks is an eternal ordinance. Before the first day there was only eternity, and after the last day when the saints are raised( John 6:39,40,44,54.John 11:24 ) there will only be eternity.

 

[lismore]

Hi Lismore, I can't agree that the seven day weeks is an eternal ordinance. Before the first day there was only eternity, and after the last day when the saints are raised( John 6:39,40,44,54.John 11:24 ) there will only be eternity.

Hi David. Thank you for your reply! According to Revelation 20 the saints are raised and reign with Christ on earth for one thousand years. So the seven day week continues to run during that period at least. But then in the same passage we are informed:

They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever (Rev 20 verse 10).

I believe that the seven day week will continue to run forever, it will be a huge reminder for us regaridng our creator, as it should be now. Why do we have a seven day week? Because the seven day week of creation in which the Lord created the earth, his earth.

God Bless

 

[David Kent]

Hi David. Thank you for your reply! According to Revelation 20 the saints are raised and reign with Christ on earth for one thousand years. So the seven day week continues to run during that period at least. But then in the same passage we are informed:

They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever (Rev 20 verse 10).

I believe that the seven day week will continue to run forever, it will be a huge reminder for us regaridng our creator, as it should be now. Why do we have a seven day week? Because the seven day week of creation in which the Lord created the earth, his earth.

God Bless

I used to believe that the 1000 years was the seventh Millennium, but reading over the past years all the nonsense that has been written ab out it by futurists, I had another look at the scriptures and now I read that the saints will be raised on the LAST DAY. I also read that the LAST DAY will be the day of Judgement. Not room for millennium there or tribulation.

 

[klutedavid]

Hi David. Thank you for your reply! According to Revelation 20 the saints are raised and reign with Christ on earth for one thousand years. So the seven day week continues to run during that period at least. But then in the same passage we are informed:

They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever (Rev 20 verse 10).

I believe that the seven day week will continue to run forever, it will be a huge reminder for us regaridng our creator, as it should be now. Why do we have a seven day week? Because the seven day week of creation in which the Lord created the earth, his earth.

God Bless

A new creation has occurred, the old creation based on Adam and the earth has become obsolete.

Galatians 6:15
For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

We celebrate a new day, the first day of the new creation.

Acts 20:7
On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread...

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

The old creation was governed by the law, the new creation is governed by the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The law never granted eternal life, the law only condemned, the law showed us the need for the Savior. A New Covenant for a new created order.

 

[pat34lee]

The law never granted eternal life, the law only condemned, the law showed us the need for the Savior. A New Covenant for a new created order.

We are no longer under condemnation, but the
law still applies to us, and always will. When the
new covenant is enforced, the law will become a
part of us, instead of something external.