The atheist indoctrination project

[Vene]

As an atheist I have no problem living with Christians. I have Christian friends and family and it doesn't bother me in the least.

We don't have a savior, we don't have a god, we are not organized. The only thing that make atheists a group is that we have disbelief in the same concept.

As for us needing to pledge ourselves to your god, read the first amendment. Do you think that the Hindu, Wiccans, Pagans, Deists, Buddhists, Shintoists, ect. pray to your god? This nation is secular, and founded by secular men. Do you want me to find more anti-religious quotes from the founding fathers? Did you read the section for the Treaty of Tripoli I posted?

As for your thought that just because Christians are the majority so nobody else belongs, that is bull****. The majority of people who live in the States are white. Does that mean the blacks, hispanics, asians, ect should all leave your pure white nation? It's the exact same logic.

 

[wanderingone]

Atheists who don't want to pledge allegiance to God and country are not Americans.

False idols anyone? You know there are a lot of believers who find offense at pledging oneself to a NATION and a FLAG

 

[wanderingone]

You cannot be Christian and atheist. You cannot be Christian and Muslim.

If your not Chirstian get out.

Get of where?

 

[wanderingone]

You're the one who wanted to make personal attacks against my family, not the other way around.

If you can't behave like an adult, then I've got nothing more to say to you.

Ran out of false arguments huh?

 

[Morcova]

I'm a fascist?

yes

Whos the one saying I have to support homosexuals?

Nobody.

Whos the one saying that God is make-believe?

Me, that doesn't make me a fascist.

Whos the one trying to take God out of churches?

The same ones who turned christmas into a parody of a religious holiday? Christians.

Atheists who don't want to pledge allegiance to God and country are not Americans.

Fortunately our founding fathers disagree with you.

 

[Morcova]

False idols anyone? You know there are a lot of believers who find offense at pledging oneself to a NATION and a FLAG

Gipper doesn't worship your god, he worships the state.

 

[IzzyPop]

I'm a fascist?

To a tee.

Whos the one saying I have to support homosexuals?

No one. You just cannot discriminate against them. Sucks, huh?

Whos the one saying that God is make-believe?

I am. Can you explain how that has to do with fascism?

Whos the one trying to take God out of churches?

No one. In fact, fascism relies pretty heavily on religion. It's a lever of control.

It is a nation of Christians.

Which is worlds apart from a Christian nation.

Atheists who don't want to pledge allegiance to God and country are not Americans.

So every one prior to the '50s, when the word God was added to the Pledge, would have not been Americans?

Of course they want to live in the USA but they dont want to live there with Christians who are the marojity.

Nah. I don't mind most Christians. It is the fascists who irk me. And for clarification...That would include you.

 

[TeddyKGB]

This is a Christian Nation. If your not Christian get out.

You're not a Christian. Why don't you get out?

 

[SweetAngeline2]

I've thought this too! I'm so tired of all of these liberal public school promoting such an evil secular agenda. This country is a Christian nation, and it is abhorrent that the government has taken God out of public schools! I want my children brought up properly, understanding the Word of God, so I will be home schooling my children. But I pity the poor people who, for whatever reason, are unable to homeschool, and are forced to send their children to these liberal indoctrination camps that are "public schools". I pray that these good Christian children won't be corrupted by such an education.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I've thought this too! I'm so tired of all of these liberal public school promoting such an evil secular agenda. This country is a Christian nation, and it is abhorrent that the government has taken God out of public schools!

So you would not have a problem with children in public schools being required to pray Muslim prayers, Jewish prayers, Hindu prayers, SubGenius Prayers, Neo-Pagan Prayers, Rastafarian Prayers, Buddhist Prayers, and Pastagarian Prayers along with Christian prayers, right?

Because that is what implementing Christian prayer in public school would lead to - all other religions getting praying in school also.

 

[SweetAngeline2]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country! If a Muslim wants school-sponsered prayer, then they can go to a Muslim school or a Muslim country! America is founded on Christian values, so I see no problem in endorsing Christianity.

 

[Renton405]

I've thought this too! I'm so tired of all of these liberal public school promoting such an evil secular agenda. This country is a Christian nation, and it is abhorrent that the government has taken God out of public schools! I want my children brought up properly, understanding the Word of God, so I will be home schooling my children. But I pity the poor people who, for whatever reason, are unable to homeschool, and are forced to send their children to these liberal indoctrination camps that are "public schools". I pray that these good Christian children won't be corrupted by such an education.

I agree. We are gonna homeschool probably also. or a very small christian based school. There are to many things public schools teach that hurt the innocence of children. Children do need to be taught morals and values. And most imporant is family values. If the child dosen't have a family with a strong nurturing support, all the "school systems" in the world won't help.

Thats what I don't like about public school, because they give the impulse to the parents to just "drop off" their kids in the morning and their scotch free the rest of the day. Parents use the schools to raise their children for them because they are too lazy to do it themselves.

Parents need to be more involved in their childs lives. Not expect the school to raise them. The most important things kids learn are from their parents

 

[WatersMoon110]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country! If a Muslim wants school-sponsered prayer, then they can go to a Muslim school or a Muslim country! America is founded on Christian values, so I see no problem in endorsing Christianity.

1. This isn't a Christian country. It says so right in our Constitution, freedom of religion.
2. If a public school "endorses" Christian prayer, they would have to "endorse" all religion's prayers.
3. America is not founded on Christian values. America is founded on Democratic (as in Democracy, not some political party that didn't exist yet) and Philosophical values. Like inherent human rights - NOT present in the Bible, very present in current philosophy at the time.

 

[Vene]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country! If a Muslim wants school-sponsered prayer, then they can go to a Muslim school or a Muslim country! America is founded on Christian values, so I see no problem in endorsing Christianity.

There are Christian schools. But these are private schools, not public schools. The First Amendment makes it illegal for a state sponsored organization to recognize a religion. Even making all faiths have equal time would be illegal. You are free to have your kids go to a Christian school, just as Muslims are free to send their kids to a Muslim school.

A public school's purpose is to teach kids so they can function in society and teach them skills for future jobs. It is not a place to instill religious beliefs. And don't worry, even atheism isn't discussed in a public school.

 

[Vene]

I've thought this too! I'm so tired of all of these liberal public school promoting such an evil secular agenda. This country is a Christian nation, and it is abhorrent that the government has taken God out of public schools! I want my children brought up properly, understanding the Word of God, so I will be home schooling my children. But I pity the poor people who, for whatever reason, are unable to homeschool, and are forced to send their children to these liberal indoctrination camps that are "public schools". I pray that these good Christian children won't be corrupted by such an education.

I take offense to you calling all liberals evil. Many liberals are Christian, are they evil too? You are, by extension, calling other members of your faith evil. Why would you say Christians are evil?

 

[comana]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country! If a Muslim wants school-sponsered prayer, then they can go to a Muslim school or a Muslim country! America is founded on Christian values, so I see no problem in endorsing Christianity.

If Christian parents want thier children to have an education that endorses Christianity they also have the option to send them to private schools.

This not a Christian country in the sense of our government. The population, however, has a majority who hold Christian beliefs.

As far as public schools and religion, well they should stay out of it and leave the kids to pray or read the Bible during free time (which they can do).

 

[Vene]

If Christian parents want thier children to have an education that endorses Christianity they also have the option to send them to private schools.

This not a Christian country in the sense of our government. The population, however, has a majority who hold Christian beliefs.

As far as public schools and religion, well they should stay out of it and leave the kids to pray or read the Bible during free time (which they can do).

Very true, my old high school even had a group of Christians set up a Bible study. And on the weekends the school was rented out to a church.

 

[Skavau]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country!

The country is Secular. The state and church should be separate. When you say that Christianity ought to be endorsed in schools, what precisely do you mean by this? Can you give an example?

 

[TeddyKGB]

I don't mind setting aside a prayer time for children of all faiths to pray by themselves, but of course I wouldn't want the schools making everyone join in prayers from all religions, there would be no time for school work! I do think that schools should endorse Christian prayer though, because this is a Christian country! If a Muslim wants school-sponsered prayer, then they can go to a Muslim school or a Muslim country! America is founded on Christian values, so I see no problem in endorsing Christianity.

Have you perchance checked to see what the Constitution says about government entities endorsing Christianity?

 

[TeddyKGB]

I agree. We are gonna homeschool probably also. or a very small christian based school. There are to many things public schools teach that hurt the innocence of children. Children do need to be taught morals and values. And most imporant is family values. If the child dosen't have a family with a strong nurturing support, all the "school systems" in the world won't help.

Why criticize public schools, then?

Thats what I don't like about public school, because they give the impulse to the parents to just "drop off" their kids in the morning and their scotch free the rest of the day. Parents use the schools to raise their children for them because they are too lazy to do it themselves.

And this is the schools' problem... how?