The Apprentice 5 (2006)

[sf49erfan]

I like both finalists but I think Lee might have the edge- although Mark seems more confident.

Being like Allie, I see. His name is Sean not Mark.

 

[snoochface]

I've never cared for Trump much, but watching his kids talk about him at dinner last night made him almost likeable.

I like Sean and Lee - good final two.

 

[susanann]

I've never cared for Trump much, but watching his kids talk about him at dinner last night made him almost likeable.

Almost.

 

[sf49erfan]

What was up with the cook uniform designed by the girls: it looked like a genie costume!

 

[snoochface]

What was up with the cook uniform designed by the girls: it looked like a genie costume!

That was a ridiculous outfit. I was thinking, there's no man in the world who would be comfortable wearing that.

 

[Redguard]

That was a ridiculous outfit. I was thinking, there's no man in the world who would be comfortable wearing that.

What about Elton John?

 

[susanann]

I like both finalists but I think Lee might have the edge- although Mark seems more confident.

Well, you already know that Trump really likes Lee. Lee is much smarter, and doesnt panic on every show like Sean. Lee has had all the ideas on all the projects. Trump never did let anyone else criticize Lee. Nobdy has been in the boardroom more times than Lee and is still there. Lee's background is similar to Trump, except he didnt have as rich of a daddy. Lee is 3-1 as project manager, and in his only loss Trump really liked what he did. Trump spent the last 2 show
explaining how he must have someone who is very loyal like Lee. Lee accepts responsiblity. Lee is a delegator and can think on his feet. Lee gets along with everyone. Lee is all business.



Sean made the final 2 by managing not to do anything to personally mess up to get fired. Sean is more interested in Tammy than in being an apprentice.


Seems like a nobrainer to me.

You dont need a "giveaway" to tell you what is going to happen.

 

[susanann]

What was up with the cook uniform designed by the girls: it looked like a genie costume!

What about the poofy outlandish sleeves on the maids uniforms?

A maid is either going to want to wear a dress for comfort, or pants for scrubbing on her knees - coulotts dont cut it - and the maids pretty much told Allie that.

I was surprised that Ivanka knew about white uniforms can be bleached - and that yellow is a no-no. She gets a point for knowing something about the real world.

Allie still doesnt have a clue that her uniforms are something that service workers dont like to wear.

 

[snoochface]

What about Elton John?

LOL! I'll revise my statement: There's no straight man in the world who would be comfortable wearing that.

 

[MissVegas]

The outfits were completely ridiculous. With the uniforms for men...I agree with Sean... If I were a man I would feel emasculated. I thought some of them were for women.
And... the way that Allie talked to Mark Bower????? Well... She should have been fired for that alone.

 

[MissVegas]

I was surprised that Ivanka knew about white uniforms can be bleached - and that yellow is a no-no. She gets a point for knowing something about the real world.

Ivanka and Donald (jr) seem to both have very good heads on their shoulders...I was impressed at how smart and well spoken Ivanka was. How fondly they talked of their father...

Me I am not a huge Donald Fan... His personal life has always left a bad taste for me... HOWEVER... where he may not be the best husband... He does love his children and it shows.

 

[susanann]

The outfits were completely ridiculous. With the uniforms for men...I agree with Sean... If I were a man I would feel emasculated. I thought some of them were for women.
.

Seems obvious that Allie and Roxanee never had a real job where they had to actually work in a uniform. Even more so, neither one of them could understand how working people feel.

The silver spoon girl Ivanka, could at least sympathize and mentally place herself in the position of a common worker.

Lee went straight to the workers, and relied on their opinions as to what they needed and wanted.

Lee is not afraid to seek out and rely on other people who know more about something than he does.

Another point for Lee.


(this show reminded me of when president bush went to a grocery store, and had no idea how to pay for groceries at the checkout back in 1990 - he had never done it before )

 

[New Creation]

Being like Allie, I see. His name is Sean not Mark.

I think not, buddy.

 

[New Creation]

Ivanka and Donald (jr) seem to both have very good heads on their shoulders...I was impressed at how smart and well spoken Ivanka was. How fondly they talked of their father...

Me I am not a huge Donald Fan... His personal life has always left a bad taste for me... HOWEVER... where he may not be the best husband... He does love his children and it shows.

I was impressed with his kids too. Very likable people. I must say I was also impressed with the fact that Trump was monetarily strict with his kids as they grew up. Fantastic values. If they wanted more, they had to work for it. Amen to that.

 

[CarrieAg93]

I thought it was pretty obvious that he wanted to fire them both. They egged them on until they went after each other and then fired them for it.

 

[susanann]

I must say I was also impressed with the fact that Trump was monetarily strict with his kids as they grew up. Fantastic values. If they wanted more, they had to work for it. Amen to that.

What did Donald Jr say? that he only got $300 a month allowance, and that if he wanted more than that, he had to work for it?

$300 a month was still a bigger allowance than what my parents gave me when I was in high school or college.

Ivanka said they did not have "unlimited" charge cards, she did not say they did not have any charge cards.

These kids grew up with more spending money, more new cars, more trips, more expensive activities, more expensive clothes, more expensive toys, use of the family boat and summer home, etc. than most average adults can afford.

I was surprised that Ivanka and Donald Jr. did not complain about how far they had to walk to get on the Trump Helicopter when they went on weekend skiing trips with their friends.


... or how they had to share the 3 family chauferrs with the rest of the family.

These kids dont even have to pay back education loans.

And they were very lucky to find good paying jobs immediately upon graduation.

I would not feel sorry sorry for how poor they grew up.


It was nice "PR" though for them to say how "tough" they had it.

 

[susanann]

I thought it was pretty obvious that he wanted to fire them both. They egged them on until they went after each other and then fired them for it.

That is a good observation.

At the beginning of the boardroom, neither Allie or Roxanne would attack each other.

It took Trump a while, having to repeat himself, in order to get them to start to say bad things about each other.

Trump knew long before last nite that Lee would make a better Apprentice than either Allie or Roxanne. He had to fire Tammy last week in order to be able to fire both of the other members of Synergy this week. He couldnt risk waiting until the last episodes to have Tammy still in there - who might win a task against Lee and Sean. Tammy might have won this week if Trump had not got rid of her last week.

 

[MissVegas]

I am rooting for Sean.... I like his personality. But then again ... who knows what is going to happen.

 

[susanann]

I am rooting for Sean.... I like his personality. But then again ... who knows what is going to happen.

I like Sean too.

Sean is a good worker. No imagination, no ideas, but solid performance as long as he can keep his office romances from interfereing with his job.

I think Lee should, and he even might, hire Sean.

 

[snoochface]

What did Donald Jr say? that he only got $300 a month allowance, and that if he wanted more than that, he had to work for it?

$300 a month was still a bigger allowance than what my parents gave me when I was in high school or college.

Ivanka said they did not have "unlimited" charge cards, she did not say they did not have any charge cards.

These kids grew up with more spending money, more new cars, more trips, more expensive activities, more expensive clothes, more expensive toys, use of the family boat and summer home, etc. than most average adults can afford.

I was surprised that Ivanka and Donald Jr. did not complain about how far they had to walk to get on the Trump Helicopter when they went on weekend skiing trips with their friends.


... or how they had to share the 3 family chauferrs with the rest of the family.

These kids dont even have to pay back education loans.

And they were very lucky to find good paying jobs immediately upon graduation.

I would not feel sorry sorry for how poor they grew up.


It was nice "PR" though for them to say how "tough" they had it.

I didn't get the impression that they were talking about how "tough" they had it - just that they did not grow up overly privileged like many spoiled rich kids (Paris Hilton comes to mind...). Of course they had it easier than a lot of "regular" kids, but they certainly don't sound like they grew up with the open-wallet policy a lot of celebrity parents give their children.

A $300 a month allowance for college kids is not that out of the ordinary. My church pastor gives his kids that much, and he's not rich by any means.

I was impressed with the Trump kids. Donald said, "It's hard to say you're not spoiled when you're going to [whatever the name of their big resort in Florida is called] for spring break, but we had to work for what we got" - which, to me, sounded rather humble and down to earth for someone raised in that kind of opulent environment.

I do have a question though: are they trying to slowly wean us off George and Carolyn? George traveled a lot in past seasons, but if I remember correctly, Carolyn is the HR Director, so I don't see her going on a lot of business trips. I think Trump is trying to give his kids some exposure.