The Apprentice 5 (2006)

[susanann]

I think Trump is trying to give his kids some exposure.

You answered your own question.

 

[susanann]

A $300 a month allowance for college kids is not that out of the ordinary. My church pastor gives his kids that much, and he's not rich by any means.

Is he taking applications for people who want to be adopted by him?

 

[MissVegas]

I do have a question though: are they trying to slowly wean us off George and Carolyn? George traveled a lot in past seasons, but if I remember correctly, Carolyn is the HR Director, so I don't see her going on a lot of business trips. I think Trump is trying to give his kids some exposure.

I don't know .... But George hasn't looked so healthy in the last few shows I have seen ....Is he sick????

 

[sf49erfan]

Carolyn is the HR Director, so I don't see her going on a lot of business trips. I think Trump is trying to give his kids some exposure.

Caolyn is the director of Trump's golf courses.

I think they are trying anything to get the ratings back up on this show. It is dying a slow death, ratings-wise. If things don't improve, they won't renew it beyond the seventh season (already contracted through that one).

What they should do is let Donald Jr. (the true heir to throne) do the firing one week. He is going to have to work with these people longer than his father.

 

[susanann]

What they should do is let Donald Jr. (the true heir to throne) do the firing one week. He is going to have to work with these people longer than his father.

But Donald Jr is not funny.

The father is funny - and that is why we watch it.

This is a comedy show more than anything else.

It is Donald Sr's gift of gab, and his humor, that enabled him to keep on borrowing so much money time after time to stay in business after going bankrupt and losing his fathers fortune so many times.

 

[Veritas]

Monday's episode was a bit weird with Andrea developing some weird medical condition. Coughing up blood and blood coming out of her nose is scary. I hope she's ok. I can't wait for next week's finale. It's hard to say who'll win. If Sean can get over his gonad problem he could do it.

 

[susanann]

Monday's episode was a bit weird with Andrea developing some weird medical condition. Coughing up blood and blood coming out of her nose is scary. I hope she's ok. I can't wait for next week's finale. It's hard to say who'll win. If Sean can get over his gonad problem he could do it.

Dont worry about Andrea, it is a staged event, as is the hard time Lee is getting from the woman from the firefighters association who is not helping Lee at all and who is "threatening to pull out altogether". No firefighters association : no event.


They always need some "cliffhangers" between the two segments of the finale to spark interest. For example, Last season's featured comedian "not showing" up at all for Rebecca's event, Randall's celebrity softball game canceled because of rain, bare naked ladies getting stuck at airport would be too much but you get the idea, etc.


Most likely, Andrea was told by Bienstock ( not by the contestent "Lee" Bienstock, but by the executive producer of the show: "Jay" Bienstock ) to fake some reason to leave Sean's team short one member - ergo: if anything, a self induced nosebleed.


IF the woman from the firefighters association actually helped Lee and gave him some good ideas and was cheefully cooperative, and if Andrea did not fake a nosebleed, and if both events went very well without any hitches, then why would anyone want to watch the boring second half ending of the finale?


As far as Sean, I would be very surprised if Tammy is as enamored with Sean, as Sean is enamored with Tammy.


Although I dont think Seans falling over Tammy is faked, it was amusing to see Sean skip his meeting with the GM executives(the sponsors of his event), in order to meet with the caterer and pick out some veggies for the rock concert food concessions with Tammy. (Trump himself couldn't think of a better reason to sabatoge Sean's team more than Sean did by not attending his meeting with the sponsors of the event)


Would Trump, in real life, hire any project manager who decided to skip his meeting with the executives who are sponsoring the event in order to oogle over one of the employees?

(even Trump himself would not miss one of his own meetings with executives in order to play around with any woman)


This show is mostly a "comedy" folks.


As far as the 2 teams, Sean picked Tammy, who has never done anything and who has not impressed Trump at all. Trump knows that Sean picked Tammy because of personal reasons, and not because Tammy's abilities (because she never showed any).

Sean also picked Tarek, who Trump criticized every week until he got fired.

Sean also picked Andrea, who Trump said: "she could not get along with anybody".

Trump is not going to want an Apprentice who hires people like Tammy, Tarek, and Andrea.

On the other hand, Lee picked people who he thought were the most loyal - something that Trump emphasized over and over again. Trump did not pick Carolyn and George because they were the smartest, but because they are the most loyal to him.

Lee picked Pepe, Roxanne, and Lennie. Trump praised Roxanne on every show of the season, even the show where he fired her. Trump always liked Lennie, thought Lennie was funny, and secretly knew that Lennie was always saying out loud what Trump was thinking. As far as Pepe, Trump could not think of anything bad to say about Pepe, and couldnt believe/remember he actually fired Pepe.

Lee, in essence, picked the same people that Trump himself would have selected if he was in the same spot as Lee.

Doesnt get much clearer than that.

 

[New Creation]

I didn't get the impression that they were talking about how "tough" they had it - just that they did not grow up overly privileged like many spoiled rich kids (Paris Hilton comes to mind...). Of course they had it easier than a lot of "regular" kids, but they certainly don't sound like they grew up with the open-wallet policy a lot of celebrity parents give their children.

A $300 a month allowance for college kids is not that out of the ordinary. My church pastor gives his kids that much, and he's not rich by any means.

I was impressed with the Trump kids. Donald said, "It's hard to say you're not spoiled when you're going to [whatever the name of their big resort in Florida is called] for spring break, but we had to work for what we got" - which, to me, sounded rather humble and down to earth for someone raised in that kind of opulent environment.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[snoochface]

Sorry, susanann, I disagree substantially with your analysis of the final tasks' "staging" of drama. While I am certain that the editing is designed to generate as much drama and as many cliffhangers as possible, I don't think anything is being purposely faked for that purpose.

Having managed large-scale events - not even as large-scale as the ones the final two are responsible for - I know from experience that nothing ever goes smoothly. There are always crises. There is always panic. There is always something, usually multiple somethings, that go wrong and throw everyone and everything into a tizzy for a while. It comes with the territory.

Here's an article from TV Guide you might find interesting.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Insider/default.htm?rmDate=05262006&cmsGuid={390A1AED-E467-4DE9-9E78-046C4975A0CA}

Does Trump Fake Apprentice Twists?
by Matt Webb Mitovich

Donald Trump, The Apprentice

Oftentimes at this point in The Apprentice's umpteen-week "job interview" — this round's season-ender unspools on May 29 and June 5 — the two candidates managing their final tasks are faced with most unexpected hurdles. Think back to Season 1, when Kwame Jackson was nearly waylaid by MIA concert performer Jessica Simpson (a near-flake-out that actually makes all the more sense now that we know so much more about the pop tart). Or look as recently as last season's finale, when Joe Piscopo — yes, Joe Piscopo — was "forced" to bail as the host of Rebecca Jarvis' charity event, all because of some vague "union" rule. Such final-task "surprises" obviously stir up the drama — to a point that it gets a person thinking: Is the omniscient Donald Trump amping up the "reality" with some behind-the-scenes sleight of hand? Did Jessica really get "lost"? Could it have been the Donald's well-manicured hand that actually pulled the power plug on Jennifer Massey's Season 2 Xbox display? Was Season 3's Tana Goertz really unable to get her hands on an American flag? Was Piscopo truly ineligible to pimp his D-list self in a plum prime-time TV appearance?
TVGuide.com took our theory to Trump, apparently unafraid that he would use his vast resources to make us, you know, "disappear." His response to the suggestion that someone (OK, he himself) has been "manufacturing final-task conflicts?" "No," he says. "The answer is that this is simply the way things have happened."

Trump says he was as stymied as anyone by Piscopo's abrupt exit as host of Rebecca's comedy event. "Who would have thought that Joe Piscopo, who was desperate to be on the show, would decide not to because he didn't want to violate some union thing that I am sure he could have worked out very easily," says the corporate titan. "I was very surprised and disappointed by him."
Then touching upon the Season 1 finale's famous blonde moment, Trump says it "was sort of a 'miracle' that happened. I mean, it was very interesting!"
Trump reiterates that nothing about The Apprentice is or ever has been planned. "I've never had a script, I've never had a written word," he insists. "In fact, [daughter] Ivanka was surprised after she did a few shows [subbing for Carolyn] to realize there is absolutely no scripting."
Ivanka herself tells TVGuide.com she was "taken aback" by the freewheeling nature of the show. "But that's what makes it a great thing to watch," she says. "It wouldn't come across as genuine or as effective if he was reading something."
Back to our original hypothesis, Trump says, "Just like we don't script, we also don't [create obstacles for] events just for the fun of it. It's just the way it happens."
That seemingly also rules out the possibility that he literally played God by making it rain on Season 4 champ Randal Pinkett's charity softball game. "No, I didn't," says the Donald. "I wish I had that power!"
​

 

[snoochface]

One more comment about the team choices. I don't think Trump thought it was a great idea for Lee to choose someone for his team who was fired in Week 2. If Pepi had been a shining star, he wouldn't have gone out of the game so early. I think Lee will lose major points with Trump for that.

 

[Veritas]

Sorry, susanann, I disagree substantially with your analysis of the final tasks' "staging" of drama. While I am certain that the editing is designed to generate as much drama and as many cliffhangers as possible, I don't think anything is being purposely faked for that purpose.

I agree. Andrea was seriously upset and fearful. Why would she make up something like "I'm coughing up blood"? Andrea was actually a good choice for Sean as she's experienced and levelheaded. There have been many times on the show when Trump has changed his opinion about someone after seeing them perform well on a task. I'm not counting Sean out just because he made a tactical error in not meeting with the execs. Lee on the other hand just comes across as immature and inexperienced. He doesn't have the same level of energy, enthusiasm and ability to motivate people as Sean. Sean really wants this badly. He's on his way to American citizenship and would love to start off his new life in America with a great job and "girl". I do agree that Tammy may not be as crazy about Sean as he is of her. Time will tell if she wants to have all those "apprentice babies".

 

[New Creation]

Sorry, susanann, I disagree substantially with your analysis of the final tasks' "staging" of drama. While I am certain that the editing is designed to generate as much drama and as many cliffhangers as possible, I don't think anything is being purposely faked for that purpose.

I also have to agree with this. If I thought for a moment that this show was scripted, I wouldn't watch.

Having managed large-scale events - not even as large-scale as the ones the final two are responsible for - I know from experience that nothing ever goes smoothly. There are always crises. There is always panic. There is always something, usually multiple somethings, that go wrong and throw everyone and everything into a tizzy for a while. It comes with the territory.

I've had the same experience- it's just life.
Since when has life gone smoothly?

 

[keeptrying]

I thought perhaps they were making Lee look bad to keep us guessing as to who would win but then I remembered the season that Tana lost to Kendra. It was an open and shut case as who would win, imho. It was so open and shut that I thought they were just showing the bad parts of Tana's task so we would think she was going to lose and then be surprised when she didn't, NOT, so regardless of who wins I don't think anything is setup by Trump.
I do think though that Lee will win just because Trump has always liked him, unless he really messes up, but not like I haven't been wrong before.

 

[susanann]

I do think though that Lee will win just because Trump has always liked him, unless he really messes up, but not like I haven't been wrong before.

Sean has panicked and been frustrated on every task.

He is also always flailing his arms and hands wildly all the time. I would think Trump would be worried about being hit by Sean and would always have to stay very far from Sean if he ever hired him.

(Assuming that Trump could pry Sean away from Tammy)

 

[MissVegas]

Sooo.... nobody commenting on the finale......
I am so excited that I picked it.. I am just sorry I missed it (the finale)

 

[BarbaraJean]

I dozed off during the finale.

 

[JPPT1974]

Not a good ending but glad Sean won
Can't stand that jerk Lee!

 

[keeptrying]

Sooo.... nobody commenting on the finale......
I am so excited that I picked it.. I am just sorry I missed it (the finale)

You didn't miss too much. They showed more of how the tasks went and that's about it. I'm glad Sean won. I think Lee is intelligent but still needs some more life experience before getting this kind of a promotion

Sean did tell Trump he was going to marry Tammy.

 

[susanann]

Sean did tell Trump he was going to marry Tammy.

I am glad that you remember that, because Sean does not remember saying that.


Tammy has her own Apprentice forum/message board, and she says she never said any such thing either.



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TVGuide.com: Did Tammy freak out at all when Trump asked if you hoped to marry her and you said yes?

Sean: I'll be honest with you — I don't remember saying that! I remember him talking about her and I dating, and I said, "Yeah," but I guess at some point during that questioning he mentioned marriage and I didn't hear it. I was all charged up by the battle in the boardroom and I said yes at the wrong time. We actually have no plans to get married, but we are dating and we're having a good time.

http://entertainment.myway.com/celebgossip/tvginsider/id/06_07_2006_1.html

 

[snoochface]

Sean actually clarified that comment about marrying Tammy in interviews the past couple of days. Apparently, he heard Trump asking him if he was in love, and if he was dating Tammy - but he did not hear the marriage question. His answer of "yes" was in response to the first two questions.

He said after the show Tammy pulled him aside and asked, "So, when were you going to tell me we're getting married?"