The afterlife, Jesus and The Source

[nnmartin]

No-one really knows what happens after you die but I believe that we all return to the The Source of Creation. This is the ultimate life force that has the power to create and regenerate life. This would be similar to the Christian view of God.

The point where I differ from traditional Christianity is mainly in the concept of communing with The Source - which is not possible. Jesus is the conduit and spiritual guide to take us into The Source and keep us in balance until we come out again in whatever form or forms we regenerate into.

If we reject Jesus then he will not be with us through the harrowing time between death and regeneration thus this period will be a form of hell. So living with Jesus is necessary to ease our transition through to the next phase and of course to live under a philosophical creed that gives us balance and meaning in our everyday lives.

Anyone else share these views?

This isn't so far from the Biblical view of God and the afterlife in my reasoning.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The Bible doesn't spend much time talking about life after death.

It's far more interested in life after life after death. On that point the New Testament and Christianity have been more than clear:

Resurrection of the body.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[shortlivedglory]

nnmartin, you're inventing ideas that don't need to be invented.

No-one really knows what happens after you die but I believe that we all return the The Source of Creation. This is the ultimate life force that has the power to create and regenerate life. This would be similar to the Christian view of God.

Actually, this is precisely the definition of the Christian God. I get the feeling that you're so adamant on being different that you refuse to see the reality, which is that you actually agree with the Bible.

The point where I differ from traditional Christianity is mainly in the concept of communing with The Source - which is not possible. Jesus is the conduit and spiritual guide to take us into The Source and keep us in balance until we come out again in whatever form or forms we regenerate into.

This just sounds like an over-complication of the biblical concept of bodily resurrection. I strongly recommend some simple theological research to see the major positions on these various issues. Even Wikipedia could be a good resource to start from.

If we reject Jesus then he will not be with us through the harrowing time between death and regeneration thus this period will be a form of hell. So living with Jesus is necessary to ease our transition through to the next phase and of course to live under a philosophical creed that gives us balance and meaning in our everyday lives.

So what then did Jesus mean when he said, "I am the truth, and the life, and the way. None can come to the Father but through me."? Was he lying?

This "harrowing" you speak of sounds like the a very old concept known as "Purgatory". Please look it up.

As for your arguments regarding the afterlife, what is your source? Either you are using some holy scripture or you're merely theorizing about things you cannot possibly know. The only things that we can know are the things that Jesus told us about. Anything beyond that is pointless speculation. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say anything about everyone getting into heaven, but it being easier for those who follow him. In fact, nearly all the references Jesus makes regarding heaven seem to refute such a stance.

 

[nnmartin]

Actually, this is precisely the definition of the Christian God. I get the feeling that you're so adamant on being different that you refuse to see the reality, which is that you actually agree with the Bible.

That is a good point, maybe that is the case.

Perhaps being forced to go to church 4 times a week when I was at school has conditioned me to to search for another way just for the sake of it.

It's interesting to find out that some of what I thought to be odd New Age views are in fact very similar to the Christian ones.

I just need to think it through some more.

thanks for the replies

 

[shortlivedglory]

I'm happy to help, nnmartin. It's good to know that you're here to genuinely seek God. Also, please don't take my posts personally. I tend to be very warm in person while still saying the same things I say on forums. I always tend to come off as very abrasive on forums, though it's never my intention. Just know that I have love for everyone and that I'm always willing to help in any way that I can.

As for myself, I was an atheist up until the time I became a follower of Christ. I didn't grow up in the church at all, and so I never felt the adolescent desire to gravitate away from the traditions. I was free to search after and discover God on my own, without the external influences of my family or friends.

There is, however, one great suggestion I would make to you. It wasn't until I was about twenty years old that it occurred to me that the studied and respected theologians from history may be studied and respected for a reason. You see, when you make an argument that is illogical and unfounded, your words tend to be as quickly forgotten as they are refuted. Church fathers such as Augustine of Hippo are respected to this day because very intelligent people still see that they were right about a lot of things. So don't be too quick to dismiss ideas about God simply because they're popular. Ideas that are logically and theologically sound tend to be rather popular. Furthermore, you'll find as you study that there are vast differences between what studied experts agree on and what the average Christian has been convinced of. I have the benefit of studying the historical context within which the Bible was written. It's unbelievable how quick some people are to take passages from the Bible at face value without bothering to look into the context, Christians and non-Christians alike. Jesus' words make more sense when you understand the people he was speaking to.