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The 10 Commandments and More!

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Angel_Rain

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Most of you guys must know me by now. I know there is a few of you were I have talked to, broken down crying then rebound from it. But here is the thing. I keep getting stressed out when we have to give up everything... I mean I understand cussing, I have to stop that anyways seeing how I want to be a teacher. What about music, I mean I LOVE!!! TECHNO! and i love korn, and all these other bands that are "Non-Christian" would it be a sin if I continued to listen to them? When does songs become "Non-Christian". Because the way I see it is, what if you are a true christian, listen to the "bad music" yet, it doesnt effect you and you still live your day the same as you did the day before, and day before that.... so on so forth....

What about going to church? I mean I dont go to church really, but I want to be a Christian, is that a sin? I mean... the way I see it, just because I am not going to church, that should be a sin, because the temple and everything is within you.....

What about thinking about haveing.... nasty thoughts... is that a sin? What if you have a BF, and you were just kissing them, because kissing isnt a sin. Is it? I mean how can giving a peck on the lips be truely bad? If it isnt a sin to give a kiss, or a deep romantic kiss... then what if things get slightly hot and heavy, and both want something, and one thing leads to another..... is that a sin? You both wanted it, and the two are in love... is it truely a sin to have... *erms* sex?... but not conseving a child yet, because I would see that as a sin.... If not having sex, then what about masterbating... is that a sin, I mean your not loosing your virginity when doing that. Expecailly with a girl... I mean its just a feeling, and really intense feeling, is God going to deny us of feeling now? I mean why? Why is it such a sin.... I mean I know having sex before marriage isnt good... but what if it just happens... and you both wanted it?

I mean... when is it wrong, then when is it right... because I keep stressing over these things, and much more, just right now thats all my mind can think of with the 10 commandments, please list them out for me so I can have questions to the rest.... but when does it come to were God isnt going to love you as much as he did before because you committed a "sin"...... I know its the work of the devil.. but like you guys say all the time.. i mean ALL!!!!! the time... we are all NOT! perfect, but we can try and be perfect..... but we will NEVER be truely perfect, its impossible.... to be perfect, might as well put ducktape over your mouth strap yourself into a chair, and have a pee bucket next to you until you die.... thats the only way to truely be... PERFECT! oh , and while your strapped there.... read the bible and all that fun stuff...
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Ok, time for something new...

For all who know me, and such you know i have this boy named Chris in my life, he loves me, and i love him... yada yada yada..... well onto whatever...

How do you know he/she is for you? How can you tell, is there a sign? is there something hidden behind, or what? How do you know... then if you know, when do you know to take the next step on? You guys say God will tell you, but how do you know he is telling you and not your mind or body!?!? Its just hard for me because I see this guy named Chris, he was born on All Saints day, and to me he seems to be part of the calling I am having..... (if you havent read the calling story... go to Non- Christians, outreach...).... But how do I know he is truely for me? how do i know when to take the next step? and if I take the next step could it be a sin? When is it not a sin?....
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My mind is running out of fuel... and I cant think.. I will just wait for the responses.... and let my mind rest for now...... Thank you all for taking your time and reading.. and answering
GOD BLESS!!!!
 

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When we become a Christian, one of the things we have to do is to get rid of all the worldly things that we were use to in our old lives. Like, the music that cusses, the drugs, sex, all that. About the music, if it hinders your walk with God-get rid of it!!! No matter what it is. There is awesome Christian music out there. I went from all secular rap to all Christian rap and rock. I love techno too. I listen to it sometimes b/c it h as no affect on my walk with Christ. I believe if you research some of these Christian bands, you will see that you like them. Some sound like some of the secular groups and don't talk dirty and all that.

And going to church is something that we all should do. We should all be under authority that the Lord puts here. We need to be under a pastor so that we can get a vision for our lives and find our callings in life. The pastor and the elders of the church are there to help us when we have problems. And we also need to be in church for the purpose of fellwoship. We we fellowship with one another, the Blood of Christ flows freely and better. Thats why you should pray that the Lord would send you to the right church. That way you will find your calling in the Lord.

And the bad thoughts. Boy i have that problem too. Bad thoughts are from the devil. Thoughts are natural. But the sin is when you dwell on them. B/c when you dwell on them, other bad thoughts come in. Lust, sex(as you are talking about) and all the other weapons the devil uses. I don't know exactly what the Bible says about kissing, i aint sure about that. But my philosophy is don't kiss until you get married. I have just started believing that. B/c usually kissing leads to other things like you were saying. And most humans want sex. its natural. God gave it to us so we could bond in marraige in that way. But we have to overcome those feelings until marraige. We cant walk by feelings, we have to listen to the Holy Spirit and let Him be our guide. I ain't gonna lie, i just got over masturbation. I finally quit. But i don't know anywhere for certain in the Bible where it talks baout masturbation. But i do know somewhere it says that it is better for a man to spill his seed in a prostitute than on the ground. So i guess that applies. And i am thinking the same for a woman but in a feminine way. B/c usually along with masturbation comes lustful thoughts. Don't listen to your feelings, you see where it will get you. All the nasty thoughts and all that.

The 10 Commandments should really be called the 10 Freedoms. B/c when you live for Christ, obeying them just comes natural. God will always love you no matter how much you sin. The only thing that happens is when you sin, its blocks the blessings God has for us. therefore people think He doesn't love them as much anymore. His love is unconditional. He sent His only Son to die for us. Would you do that for someone you knew was gonna sin? To tell u the truth, i am human, i wouldnt. Ecclesiastes 7:20-There is not a single person in all the earth who is always good and never sins. We will always break His rules. But like you said, we strive with all our might to live like God wants us too.

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you will know if Chris is for you. Your Spirit will tell you. There will be people who copnfirm that he is right for you. The Bible will tell you if you read it. You will take the next step when the Lord tells you. Otherwise you will rush into something you are not ready for. And then it will be on your timing and not God's. It all includes listening to God and the Holy Spirit.
If you have any more questions, post or ask.
Love ya sis.
Adam
 
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Adam did a great job of answering your questions. I have one for you though. Are you a Christian? From what you've said, it sounds like you want to be, but you're not sure??? Once the Holy Spirit lives on the inside of you, He will guide you to all truth and will lead you away from things that are not godly. The music you listen to may be fine, depending on if it's influencing you negatively in your walk with Christ.

Regarding your boyfriend, Chris, I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the fact that his birthday is All Saints Day. You mentioned this before in the other forum. Why is that significant? Just curious...

As for whether God wants you to be in a relationship with Chris, that depends. If you are a Christian and he is not, then the answer would be "no". We are told not to be unequally yoked with non-believers. I'm married to a non-Christian and even though we have a great marriage, it's still hard sometimes. We were both non-believers when we married.

Hope this helps!
 
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Angel_Rain said:
Most of you guys must know me by now. I know there is a few of you were I have talked to, broken down crying then rebound from it. But here is the thing. I keep getting stressed out when we have to give up everything... I mean I understand cussing, I have to stop that anyways seeing how I want to be a teacher. What about music, I mean I LOVE!!! TECHNO! and i love korn, and all these other bands that are "Non-Christian" would it be a sin if I continued to listen to them? When does songs become "Non-Christian". Because the way I see it is, what if you are a true christian, listen to the "bad music" yet, it doesnt effect you and you still live your day the same as you did the day before, and day before that.... so on so forth....
I don't see anything wrong with any secular music as long as the lyrics don't blaspheme God or tempt you to do wrong. I like techno as well, I'm getting into more of that. As for Korn, the lyrics tempt me to entertain evil thoughts.

Angel_Rain said:
What about going to church? I mean I dont go to church really, but I want to be a Christian, is that a sin? I mean... the way I see it, just because I am not going to church, that should be a sin, because the temple and everything is within you.....
About your last sentence - do you mean that in a Holy Spirit kind of way, or in a New Age kind of way? Because New Age, Bhuddism, and other false religions use similar terms to the ones Christianity uses, but they mean very different things. For example, meditation in Eastern religeons means to empty your mind and relax. In Christianity, it means to contemplate God and His Word - exercising your mind, filling it with truth. But back to your question, you need church. Be it the traditional Sunday morning worship service or a small group Bible study (many Christians would emphasize both) is very good for your spiritual health. It can be food for your soul if you let it be that way. Without fellowship, you will starve spiritually.

"And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another–and all the more as you see the Day approaching." - Hebrews 10:24-25

Do you want to be useful for helping your brothers and sisters in Christ along? Do you want to be helped yourself? Good community within a church is essential for that. I've noticed Christians who have neglected church start slipping. There is one such Christian in my life who hasn't been treating me or a number of other people right, and I believe that his not going to church is one of the direct causes. By contrast, the sermon yesterday indirectly grilled me for treating others the same way. Without that hand of correction, who knows where my brother will spiral down to?

Angel_Rain said:
What about thinking about haveing.... nasty thoughts... is that a sin? What if you have a BF, and you were just kissing them, because kissing isnt a sin. Is it? I mean how can giving a peck on the lips be truely bad?
It isn't.
Angel_Rain said:
If it isnt a sin to give a kiss, or a deep romantic kiss... then what if things get slightly hot and heavy, and both want something, and one thing leads to another..... is that a sin? You both wanted it, and the two are in love... is it truely a sin to have... *erms* sex?... but not conseving a child yet, because I would see that as a sin....
There are limits to what God wants us to do outside of marraige. Having created sex, He knows what He's talking about when He commands people to save themselves for marraige. And if you're putting yourself in a situation where you could easily give in, then you'd best stay out.

"But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." - Matthew 5:28-30

Jesus was not preaching literal self-mutilation, or you'd see a lot of Christians with their limbs chopped off. Sin is spiritual, and comes from your insides. But there are situations where we are weak, and the devil seems to have our number every time we get in them. If, for example, being alone with your boyfriend puts you in a situation where you feel you simply *must* have sex, it's best to keep to walks in the park, dinner at restaraunts, that sort of thing where you don't feel so tempted.

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." - Matthew 15:19

Angel_Rain said:
If not having sex, then what about masterbating... is that a sin, I mean your not loosing your virginity when doing that. Expecailly with a girl... I mean its just a feeling, and really intense feeling, is God going to deny us of feeling now? I mean why? Why is it such a sin.... I mean I know having sex before marriage isnt good... but what if it just happens... and you both wanted it?
See the above verses. In my own life, I've found that giving in to the temptation doesn't satisfy the monster, it just makes him hungrier.

Angel_Rain said:
I mean... when is it wrong, then when is it right... because I keep stressing over these things, and much more, just right now thats all my mind can think of with the 10 commandments, please list them out for me so I can have questions to the rest.... but when does it come to were God isnt going to love you as much as he did before because you committed a "sin"...... I know its the work of the devil.. but like you guys say all the time.. i mean ALL!!!!! the time... we are all NOT! perfect, but we can try and be perfect..... but we will NEVER be truely perfect, its impossible.... to be perfect, might as well put ducktape over your mouth strap yourself into a chair, and have a pee bucket next to you until you die.... thats the only way to truely be... PERFECT! oh , and while your strapped there.... read the bible and all that fun stuff...
God won't love you less and He won't lose patience with you. He may discipline you from time to time, but He won't withdraw His love. Don't sin, and if you do, repent and try again. That's all you really need to concern yourself with.

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 8:38-39


Angel_Rain said:
Ok, time for something new...

For all who know me, and such you know i have this boy named Chris in my life, he loves me, and i love him... yada yada yada..... well onto whatever...

How do you know he/she is for you? How can you tell, is there a sign? is there something hidden behind, or what? How do you know... then if you know, when do you know to take the next step on? You guys say God will tell you, but how do you know he is telling you and not your mind or body!?!? Its just hard for me because I see this guy named Chris, he was born on All Saints day, and to me he seems to be part of the calling I am having..... (if you havent read the calling story... go to Non- Christians, outreach...).... But how do I know he is truely for me? how do i know when to take the next step? and if I take the next step could it be a sin? When is it not a sin?....
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
My mind is running out of fuel... and I cant think.. I will just wait for the responses.... and let my mind rest for now...... Thank you all for taking your time and reading.. and answering
GOD BLESS!!!!
When it comes to love, I am retarded so I can't answer your question. All I can say is don't date a non-Christian. I've had Christian friends who have made that mistake and really pay for it later. In one case, the unbelieving SO was further from the Lord at the end of the relationship than he was at the beginning. And what if he does convert then you break up. That will really sting him.

"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" - 2 Corinthians 6:14

Many Christians apply this to dating, and almost all apply it to marraige. Since sucessful dating leads to marraige, it is best to not even date unbelievers. And many Christians who are unequally yoked (married to an unbeliever) have some horror stories to tell. There's a forum specifically for that here.
 
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