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"This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. [d] 16 Make a roof for it and finish [e] the ark to within 18 inches [f] of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks. "
There is no mention of a storm or wind or rough seas.
It just had to float.
hogging? sagging? mean anything? I know this is a cartoon, but still...
It is beyond belief how far people are willing to distort reality in order to turn icing sugar into soap powder.
However, each to his own.
I asked you if you understood what "hogging" and "sagging" meant. is the answer to that "no"?
... no, don't bother. .
Thats not a good enough reason for me to edit what i want to say.. if they dont like what i said and want to edit words then im not restating anything i will move on
You are correct. When Jonah travelled to Ninevah, he actually went by submarine. The ancient term for this vessel was inaccurately translated as Whale.
What you are essentially saying is that because you and your coworkers fudge your data everyone else must be doing it.
Now consider that the Christian geologists who first determined that the earth's geological record could not be the result of a global flood had set out to prove that it was the result of a global flood. If they fudged their data the way you and the people you work with do they would not have been forced by the data to conclude that the earth's geology was not the result of a global flood.
And BTW I have lost significant potential income in some cases because the data I collected did not verify the hypothesis we set out to test so not everyone is as unethical as our coworkers seem to be. It fact I would say that most are not.
This is a common misperception. In fact I don't give a tinker's cuss where I go after I die. I don't care if it is eternity, and I don't care if it is a lake of fire, and I don't care if it is eternal oblivion. Whatever it is, there is not much point worrying about it.
...was able to withstand a storm of 40 days
While interesting, as is the discussion of the Chinese treasure fleets, I would put it on par with Woodmorappe's Feasibility book. When there's no evidence of the hyper-speciation that would have to result after the "kinds" were brought on the Ark. When there's no evidence of genetic bottlenecks 4,000 years ago that would have to result from populations being reduced to 2, 7 or 8. When all of the geological, archaeological and paleontological evidence screams the Flood didn't happen, I think discussions about the dimensions of the Ark are basically nit picking.Researchers fudge numbers to fit what they are looking for.A value and evidence free comment. Care to pony up some support for this assertion and show how it applies to what I wrote?
Sure. You could have checked first.
I must confess though, only 1/3 of researchers admit to fudging the facts.
Note that in 3 months, no one has disputed the 30% cheat/liars/frauds figure.
The Story of the Ark does not mention waves, or wind, or any storm.
It just needed to float. And should any waves come up...
He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, Quiet! Be still! Then the wind died down and it was completely calm.
7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
To cover the mountains you need more than 29,000 feet of rain. That means it needed to rain about 725 feet per day or about 30 feet per hour or about 6 inches per minute. Unless you get a lot of water coming from the fountains of the great deep of course. And you are saying this all happened with no waves?7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that [were] under the whole heaven, were covered.
7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
The Story of the Ark does not mention waves, or wind, or any storm.
It just needed to float. And should any waves come up...
"Reality" being the original storyline, thank you for that word of support.
Plus any related insights that may have shown up in other parts of the book.
He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, "Quiet! Be still!" Then the wind died down and it was completely calm.
So it would SEEM that God can control the weather.
I think that weird idea goes way back and isn't even something I invented.
According to Genesis
To cover the mountains you need more than 29,000 feet of rain. That means it needed to rain about 725 feet per day or about 30 feet per hour or about 6 inches per minute. Unless you get a lot of water coming from the fountains of the great deep of course. And you are saying this all happened with no waves?
The issue is, what if you don't mentally die. What if you are still aware of yourself as a person. Still able to think.
The the simple question, where are you going to spend your "time"?
The Story of the Ark does not mention waves, or wind, or any storm.
It just needed to float. And should any waves come up...
He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, Quiet! Be still! Then the wind died down and it was completely calm.
I warn everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book; if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Revelation 22v18ff
Then why did Jesus Christ die on the Cross?However, where my soul goes at that point is pretty well immaterial to me. I don't much care, because this decision is not mine to make.
In my opinion the ark didn't exist.Let me ask you this, Frumious.
Remember sometime back when I said that where the Bible is silent on how some things happened, It really isn't silent, if we compare spiritual things with spiritual?
For instance, the Bible seems to be silent on how all those animals were fed, until we see how God handled a similar situation later with the widow of Zarephath?
Anyway -- as pertains your point -- let me ask you this:
In your opinion, did the Ark even get wet?
Judges 6:39 And Gideon said unto God, Let not thine anger be hot against me, and I will speak but this once: let me prove, I pray thee, but this once with the fleece; let it now be dry only upon the fleece, and upon all the ground let there be dew.
Judges 6:40 And God did so that night: for it was dry upon the fleece only, and there was dew on all the ground.
In my opinion the ark didn't exist.
How could something that didn't exist get wet? On the other hand if the legend of Noah is based on some people escaping a large local flood in a boat, perhaps because they were already traveling by boat then the boat that gave rise to the ark legend definitely got wet.Then NO is your answer?
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