That Boat Don't Float!!

[Montalban]

Some have nothing else to do

 

[Nathan Poe]

Some have nothing else to do

And for others, it's like that nasty crusty scab you get after skinning your knee -- no matter how many times Mom tells you not to pick at it, you just can't resist.

 

[Montalban]

And for others, it's like that nasty crusty scab you get after skinning your knee -- no matter how many times Mom tells you not to pick at it, you just can't resist.

That's what trying to drive a wedge between 'ship' and 'ark' is like

 

[SkyWriting]

There is no evidence to suggest he did. In fact tehre is little evidence that a Jesus of the exact description of your mythological book actually existed.

The Christian Bible is the most thoroughly documented ancient text in world history.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Christian Bible is the most thoroughly documented ancient text in world history.

 

[Hespera]

That's what trying to drive a wedge between 'ship' and 'ark' is like

This kind of "I have to win, I have to always be right' word game reminds me of a story my dad told about this like roadside exhibit in Texas.

They had a big sign that said, "See Gorilla".

Inside they had a chimp in a cage. So dad says, why did you advertise you have a gorilla, that is a chimp.

The guy, who he described as an old ex circus strongman gone to seed, and covered with tattoos said "It is a mountain ape. His name is Gorilla".

Anyone want to argue with that?

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Christian Bible is the most thoroughly documented ancient text in world history.

Documented by whom? And for what purpose?

 

[AV1611VET]

This kind of "I have to win, I have to always be right' word game reminds me of a story my dad told about this like roadside exhibit in Texas.

When the Bible calls it an ark, and you guys telephone it to "ship", then complain because I balk, shows that you guys haven't a clue as to what is going on.

You have no idea what a KJVO is (or do, but can't tolerate one), you have no idea how the KJV cross-references Its words (there are two other 'arks' mentioned: the ark Moses was in, and the Ark of the Covenant), and you have no idea how changing words in the Bible can lead to error doctrine.

You guys don't know the difference between a vision and a direct command in history, you don't know anything about Dispensation Theology and how well it works, glorified states, shekinah energy, the difference between YEC, Omphalos, and Embedded Age, and a host of other things you don't know.

Is it any wonder we're laughed at and/or insulted?

I wouldn't expect anything less from you guys.

 

[SkyWriting]

That's what trying to drive a wedge between 'ship' and 'ark' is like

There is no "wedge" to be driven.
The Ark has no propulsion system, and is not towed.
It MAY be classified as a barge, but barges are towed.
It was a unique watercraft in that all it had to do was float.

"Most watercraft would be described as either a ship or a boat. However, there are a number of craft which many people would consider neither a ship nor a boat, such as: canoes, kayaks, rafts, barges, catamarans, hydrofoils, windsurfers, surfboards (when used as a paddle board), jet skis, underwater robots, seaplanes, and torpedoes."

 

[ZephyrWiccan]

There is no "wedge" to be driven.
The Ark has no propulsion system, and is not towed.
It MAY be classified as a barge, but barges are towed.
It was a unique watercraft in that all it had to do was float.

"Most watercraft would be described as either a ship or a boat. However, there are a number of craft which many people would consider neither a ship nor a boat, such as: canoes, kayaks, rafts, barges, catamarans, hydrofoils, windsurfers, surfboards (when used as a paddle board), jet skis, underwater robots, seaplanes, and torpedoes."

See my OP as it can't do the bolded above.

It doesn't matter what the HECK you want to call it - boat, ship, watercraft, barge, UFO, Amazing Circus Mobile, WHATEVER - IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT.

The "watercraft" - the STRUCTURE - could not stay afloat.

 

[Nathan Poe]

When the Bible calls it an ark, and you guys telephone it to "ship", then complain because I balk, shows that you guys haven't a clue as to what is going on.

And you STILL can't explain any meaningful difference.

<various mock indignations snipped>

Is it any wonder we're laughed at and/or insulted?

I wouldn't expect anything less from you guys.

Funny, we've come to expect nothing more from you.

 

[ZephyrWiccan]

Documented by whom? And for what purpose?

Indeed, I'd like to see this "documentation".

 

[Nathan Poe]

There is no "wedge" to be driven.
The Ark has no propulsion system, and is not towed.
It MAY be classified as a barge, but barges are towed.
It was a unique watercraft in that all it had to do was float.

Which it would've been unable to do without miraculous assistance -- to the degree that such a wartercraft would've been unnecessary in the first place.

To be sure, had Noah built it out of tissue paper, God could've made it float, but at that point, what was the point of building it at all?

Please bear in mind that I'm only humoring you and AV at this point -- no amount of theology can cure people who cannot recognize the blatantly allegorical, once they've incorperated it into their self-image.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you STILL can't explain any meaningful difference.

That's because YOU don't know the difference between a crewman and a passenger.

 

[AV1611VET]

To be sure, had Noah built it out of tissue paper, God could've made it float, but at that point, what was the point of building it at all?

The Ark, just like the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, was a three-dimensional artifact depicting, in type, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is in the Old Testament concealed, and in the New Testament revealed.

Now chew on that awhile (or not), then come back with an ignorant reply that shows me you have no idea what I just said.

ETA: Here's more to make your head swim.

The Ark is a picture of Tribulation saints going through the Tribulation; whereas Enoch, who was translated before the Flood, is a picture of the Rapture of the New Testament saints just before the Tribulation Period.

Can you handle deep theology, Nathan?

 

[AV1611VET]

Anyone can talk about nothing, I know people who can do it for hours, most of them politicians or preachers.

I don't pretend to have a degree in English Literature, then sit and wonder what the difference is between an ark and a ship in the Bible.

 

[Freodin]

The Ark, just like the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, was a three-dimensional artifact depicting, in type, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is in the Old Testament concealed, and in the New Testament revealed.

Now chew on that awhile (or not), then come back with an ignorant reply that shows me you have no idea what I just said.

ETA: Here's more to make your head swim.

The Ark is a picture of Tribulation saints going through the Tribulation; whereas Enoch, who was translated before the Flood, is a picture of the Rapture of the New Testament saints just before the Tribulation Period.

Can you handle deep theology, Nathan?

Hm... and if it had a keel and sails, of course it could not have been a three-dimensional artifact depicting, in type, Jesus, because we all know that, while Jesus is box-shaped, he doesn´t keel.

So perhaps instead of munching through deep horsesh... er, theology... could you simply state the relevant difference between calling this box "ship" or "ark"?

 

[Nathan Poe]

That's because YOU don't know the difference between a crewman and a passenger.

Good boy, AV -- pretend to have a point; maybe someday you'll believe it matters.

 

[Nathan Poe]

The Ark, just like the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, was a three-dimensional artifact depicting, in type, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who is in the Old Testament concealed, and in the New Testament revealed.

Now chew on that awhile (or not), then come back with an ignorant reply that shows me you have no idea what I just said.

Oh, I "know" exactly what you just said --- here's my response:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

ETA: Here's more to make your head swim.

The Ark is a picture of Tribulation saints going through the Tribulation; whereas Enoch, who was translated before the Flood, is a picture of the Rapture of the New Testament saints just before the Tribulation Period.

Can you handle deep theology, Nathan?

Perhaps when someone starts presenting some, we'll see exactly what I can handle.

 

[Nathan Poe]

So perhaps instead of munching through deep horsesh... er, theology... could you simply state the relevant difference between calling this box "ship" or "ark"?

There is none -- but so long as AV clings to the illusion of arcane theological knowledge, his self-esteem remains intact.