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Texas to cut HIV prevention funds to Planned Parenthood facility

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SepiaAndDust, Dec 23, 2015.

  1. dogs4thewin

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    Keep in mind, with this topic that the state ( any state can cut funding that does not mean that the things cannot still be there only that the state will not help.

    For example, several years ago the governor of Georgia cut funding to education by ten days. That is that we only provide funding for 180 and days over 190 ( usually ten of which were planning days, anyway. HOWEVER, if a school wished to keep the teacher salaries at 190 days that was fine. It was just on the district to provide the money. Same applies even if Texas cuts particular funding the counties and cities that feel strongly about it can STILL have such programs either by THEIR funds and/or private funds. ALL Texas is saying is that they will not help as a state.
     
  2. blackribbon

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    Ummm....testing for the virus is NOT a prevention program....it is a diagnostic program for a infection already present.

    A prevention program would include information about abstinence or monogamous relationships (not serial monogamy but real monogamy).
     
  3. Armoured

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    ...vaccine?
     
  4. blackribbon

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    fixed the post ... misread it the first time and thought it was about HPV...that is what I get for posting when coming off a 12 hour shift. Both are significant concerns...but diagnosing existing cases is NOT and never will be a "prevention" program. It doesn't matter if it is HIV, HPV, or Hep C or even the flu...once it is identified, it is a treatment program and a maybe a containment program.
     
  5. Tallguy88

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    Because I'm Catholic, pro-life, and follow the advice of the USCCB on the issue.
     
  6. Armoured

    Armoured So is America great again yet? Supporter

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    If you're pro life, how does defunding a life saving service strike you as a good thing?
     
  7. Armoured

    Armoured So is America great again yet? Supporter

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    OK. Makes more sense.
     
  8. Tallguy88

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    There are other service providers that don't provide abortions.
     
  9. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    Or that can be their sneaky way. Not have to fund any money for these testing.
     
  10. SepiaAndDust

    SepiaAndDust There's a FISH in the percolator

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    And you're OK if people go untested and untreated for diseases unrelated to abortion?
     
  11. smaneck

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  12. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    If a clinic doesn't provide abortion, then they send a patient to one that does. Or someone can look up a place that does abortions. Why do people seemed to believe planned parent hoods the only place that provides abortions. If I was going to abort. I would just find a place to abort.
     
  13. smaneck

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    Except Texas has voter ID laws designed to prevent minorities from voting. And here is an interesting twist. A gun permit is considered an adequate ID for voting purposes but not a student ID or even a government employee ID. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-law-found-to-discriminate-against-minorities
     
  14. smaneck

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    And the Church says people shouldn't be tested for HIV at a clinic which performs abortions?
     
  15. Armoured

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    That we don't know are going to receive the funding instead.
     
  16. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Supporter

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    No, that's why they should set it up with other service providers, which the article suggests is what is happening.
     
  17. Tallguy88

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    That's because a gun ID is issued by the state and requires an FBI background check, plus a photo on the ID. At least in my state it does, not sure about Texas. A student ID, on the other hand, is issued by the particular college and may not meet the requirements of a valid for of ID for government purposes, eg no proof of who you are to obtain it, or no photo on the ID, etc.

    My states voter ID law accepts drivers license, state issued ID, military ID, passport or visa, and concealed carry permit. Failing to have one of those will result in you voting on a provisional ballot and having to go to the county clerk's office within a certain number of days (forgot how many) after the election in order for you ballot to count.
     
  18. Tallguy88

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    They say the state should cut ties with PP.
     
  19. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Supporter

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    The article said it was going to the Department of Health. Don't know about Texas, but ours does those kinds of screenings. It's their job.
     
  20. SepiaAndDust

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    Which brings us back to the local providers being overwhelmed, which has a direct impact on how many people get tested. People who don't get tested don't get treated.

    Real people will really suffer and really die and really spread diseases as an unavoidable result of this fruitcake decision.
     
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