Rather, Scripture shows the victory and liberty that awaits us whenever our people lead as magistrates (Genesis 41:39-44; Daniel 2:46-49) and elect godly leaders (Exodus 18:21-25/Deuteronomy 1:13-17/Deuteronomy 16:18-20). Civil Government is ordained of God, and not merely a "casual tool" (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:13-17). It is not evil.But scripture tells us that governments are the creations of Satan. God, as sovereign, bends them to His ultimate will as He chooses.
"A Texas pastor has told his congregation they have an "executive order" from God to keep Donald Trump in office and advised them to keep their guns loaded ahead of President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration."
Texas Pastor Tells Followers to Stock Supplies, Keep Guns Loaded Before Biden Inauguration
You act as though I have never read the verses before. I read them before I ever owned a handgun. I still own a handgun. I simply disagree with you.
If someone busts into my home and tries to harm them in any way or when I get married to my girlfriend and someone tries to harm her, I will not just stand there and watch them do it. Praying that they stop will not work. I am going to kill them. I will give them one chance to stop, and if they don't, they are dead.
God expects us to protect those who put us in charge over, not stand idly by and watch them be harmed or killed by someone breaking into their home.
I will always disagree with your premise, always!
Rather, Scripture shows the victory and liberty that awaits us whenever our people lead as magistrates (Genesis 41:39-44; Daniel 2:46-49) and elect godly leaders (Exodus 18:21-25/Deuteronomy 1:13-17/Deuteronomy 16:18-20). Civil Government is ordained of God, and not merely a "casual tool" (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:13-17). It is not evil.
The answer to my defense on Non-Resistance is in this thread (that you already replied to before).
All I can do is encourage you to recheck over the verses again, and to pray about it.
Nonresistance as Taught in the New Testament is Moral and Good.
Rather, Scripture shows the victory and liberty that awaits us whenever our people lead as magistrates (Genesis 41:39-44; Daniel 2:46-49) and elect godly leaders (Exodus 18:21-25/Deuteronomy 1:13-17/Deuteronomy 16:18-20).
Civil Government is ordained of God, and not merely a "casual tool" (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:13-17). It is not evil.
The Old Testament was about the nation of Israel, whose physical boundaries were set by God Himself, who proclaimed that to be His Holy Land, a land flowing in milk and honey, ruled under His law.
No nation on earth today--not even the current state of Israel--is that nation.
Inasmuch as Christ will destroy all earthly nations, none of them will survive His second coming, they are indeed His casual tools. What is useful to God is social order rather than chaos, and to the extent that an earthly government provides order, it is useful to God. That's why we see the Body of Christ growing even under terribly oppressive--but orderly-- regimes like North Korea, while the Body flounders in chaos like South Sudan. Look again at Romans 12 and 1 Peter 2...the subtext is the maintenance of social order.
I hate to disagree with the Israel thing. cause God promised them a nation again, and they have it, fulfilling his promise. You may not agree with all their governmental decisions, but a nation is what God intended from the start. And they have one.
Communist Korea is social order. Yet I doubt that God's intent was social order at all cost. Including if that means murder and oppression.
But is it really the nation God promised? The modern state of Israel was formed by the UK and the US. Either God used the US and the UK as His mere tools to do His will...or they have not done His will at all.
Yet, in its first 300 years, the Body of Christ grew in the intense oppression of the Roman Empire to 25% of the population of the city of Rome. The Body of Christ has grown 10-fold in North Korea since the mid-90s...which it has not done in the US.
Well we know from the Bible that God used nations all the time to fulfill his will. So, yes I think God did use the US and UK or whomever to fulfill his promise of Israel being a nation again.
Oh definately the cause of Christ grows under oppression. But I don't those oppressive governments are not filling God's plan for government. The Bible tells us the purpose of government and it's not to oppress, murder, starve and subdue the people by any means.
"A Texas pastor has told his congregation they have an "executive order" from God to keep Donald Trump in office and advised them to keep their guns loaded ahead of President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration."
Texas Pastor Tells Followers to Stock Supplies, Keep Guns Loaded Before Biden Inauguration
I've seen a good video recently that talks about the reasons why people follow these health and wealth style preachers - it's because they want to get the health and wealth like that! It's a kind of insecurity. I think it might have been Mike Winger on Kenneth Copeland, but I can't be certain.Pastors/false prophets like this are nothing but liars and thieves.
There's a bunch of people like this.
Kenneth Copeland
Joyce Meyers
Sid Roth
Benny Hinn
And many many more.
And when God's people stop supporting liars and thieves...we might have a chance to get back to what we are supposed to be doing.
The test of a prophet in the Old Testament was either perfection or else you were stoned to death.
Somehow these days about 40% true is good enough. WHAT?
All those who claimed that Covid-19 was a lie but then died of it...or Lenz who knew that his extramarital affair was coming out and knew that he was positive and contagious held a church service and infected most of the attendees.
These guys are liars and thieves...why God's people are giving them what belongs to God is beyond me.
Liberty University and the sheer volume of money...hundreds of millions of dollars for a guy who couldn't keep his pants zipped. Sheesh...what people thought he had to teach anyone about true godliness is beyond me.
Yes they do. The Charismatic Movement transcends denominations and so there are tongues and prophecies in the Anglican Church and Catholic Church (it would surprise me if the Orthodox is not affected too). Of course speaking in tongues and prophesying still have to be tested (1 Co 14) and the bad ones neglect that.It is relevant. Where do you find this in historic churches? I saw a tongue-speaking minister talk his flock out of their medicine and over 100 died. Jim Jones, and now this guy. Regular historic Churches don't do this.
I think I'd stop my pledge and start looking for a new church if he was my pastor. Probably wouldn't wait until the end of the sermon to get started.
I pray that God convicts him of his sin and brings him to repentance."A Texas pastor has told his congregation they have an "executive order" from God to keep Donald Trump in office and advised them to keep their guns loaded ahead of President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration."
Texas Pastor Tells Followers to Stock Supplies, Keep Guns Loaded Before Biden Inauguration
I have been aware of Q and our pastor warned us about it a couple of months ago but I had not been aware of how far it has crept in to some parts of the Church. Mike Lindell(the My pillow guy) posted on his Facebook page today that Trump will be President for another 4 years. This is beyond delusional.There is a common Q meme, that's about to come crumbling down... have you seen the tag line "trust the plan" on all the Q Tee shirts and bumper stickers?? well, the plan, apparently, is that last Wednesday was a test run, and now Trump is going to stage the REAL coup, with the military staunchly behind him, by weeks end...Declare martial law, - all the National Guard posting up at the capital are going to get their REAL marching orders any minute now, turn on the congress and arrest all but 10 Senators, and all but 100 Representatives. Trump will suspendthe constitution, take over the purse strings of the nation and schedule new "elections" for March - He's going to Finally defeat the Lizard people, and child eating pedophile ring that makes up 100% of the Democratic party and over 50% of the Repubs... He was sent by God to save us all from the Satanic cult that has been in control for a hundred years or more. All by tomorrow... or maybe Sunday... but for sure by the 19th.
He was at the White House today conferring with Trump about how best to institute martial law in the next few days.... Because all truly Great presidents, when the going gets tough, consult with the best pillow makers...I have been aware of Q and our pastor warned us about it a couple of months ago but I had not been aware of how far it has crept in to some parts of the Church. Mike Lindell(the My pillow guy) posted on his Facebook page today that Trump will be President for another 4 years. This is beyond delusional.
“....... the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.” Daniel 4:25 (KJV 1900)
He was at the White House today conferring with Trump about how best to institute martial law in the next few days.... Because all truly Great presidents, when the going gets tough, consult with the best pillow makers...
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