Texas Governor to bus illegal aliens to Washington D.C.

[Subduction Zone]

Thanks for answering my questions.
Your answer to 1. seems reasonable. (Although I find it weird that USA calls them aliens. Aliens are little green men with large bald heads, big eyes and spindly fingers)


Going by this link
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population
About half of the illegals entered USA legally but then overstayed. So they crossed the borders legally at an airport or a border crossing point.
Somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally. Some evaded customs and immigration inspectors at ports of entry by hiding in vehicles such as cargo trucks. Others trekked through the Arizona desert, waded across the Rio Grande or otherwise eluded the U.S. Border Patrol.
So many of these also came through the approved border points, where there would never have been a wall.
So it doesn't seem that USA has an open boarder policy. The illegals are still illegals, and they either overstay or they sneak in. Biden and his admin are not forcing the border states to let them in.



For those that come in via the Southern border, and stay in Texas, it seems that it would be the burden of the Texas authorities (not Biden and his admin or federal resources) to deal with them if they come across them. And this would mean perhaps deporting them???


So if Abbot were to do this then he would be committing a crime?
It seems that Abbot is merely asserting his first amendment right to free speech and saying stuff as a matter of political theatre than actually admitting to crimes????

W
Technically an alien is any noncitizen. But since they are almost all here to work they are usually called "illegal migrants" since they tend to be "migrant workers". Very very few are people that are not here to work. And since they are willing to do the work that those who oppose their presence refuse to do their opposition to them is rather hard to understand.

Hmm, perhaps they might oppose them because they are racIsts?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No I'm not.


Gas prices are regional.



No it wouldn't.

No, you failed. There are minor local variations, but changes in prices are global in nature. When you can't even understand gas pricing,and complained about that you lose the debate when you support an action that would raise the price on countless goods. Texas has roughly 1.2 illegal migrant workers. How are you going to replace them?

It almost seems as if your opposition to these people is only due to racism, since your opposition is so inconsistent.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I figured it out. You just put up a big smokescreen by making a bunch of statements that aren't even in line with what we're talking about. Specifically, "prisoners".

No, you asked an improper question. You are projecting again since improper questions are usually asked by people that know that they are wrong. Why didn't you try to ask a question without a false assumption within it?

 

[stevil]

Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence." Additionally, federal law requires that those here illegally, even those seeking asylum, must be detained while they are being processed. Joe Biden has violated his oath of office not just by neglecting his duty under the Constitution and federal law, but by actually aiding and abetting illegals by transporting them to locations in the U.S. instead of detaining them.
This is why Biden will be impeached about nine months from now. If the border czar is convicted along with him the office of the presidency would fall upon the Speaker of the House.

No, I don't understand any of that.
Where has Biden violated his oath???

Do you know the difference between an Invasion vs illegal migrant?

Hint: Russia has invaded Ukraine

 

[Valletta]

No, I don't understand any of that.
Where has Biden violated his oath???

Do you know the difference between an Invasion vs illegal migrant?

Hint: Russia has invaded Ukraine

Joe took an oath to uphold the Constitution and thus the laws of the land. Joe has violated federal law by releasing illegals into the United States instead of obeying the law and detaining them while they can be processed. As to your second question, yes I do.

 

[stevil]

Joe has violated federal law by releasing illegals into the United States

I thought the court system determines if people who have commited crimes are detained or released, not typically the Federal Government.

Unless, of course, the president chooses to use his Pardon powers.
Did Biden pardon them?

 

[Valletta]

I thought the court system determines if people who have commited crimes are detained or released, not typically the Federal Government.

Unless, of course, the president chooses to use his Pardon powers.
Did Biden pardon them?

Federal law requires them to be detained. They then have the possibility of a hearing by an immigration court. Joe broke the law by not detaining them, whether Joe pardons them or not or whether a court finds them guilty or not guilty in no way absolves Joe of his crimes. The president is not above the law. I'll give you another example. Joe is required to demand the release of U.S. citizens wrongfully held by a foreign government. If he just decides to just "turn the page" on Afghanistan and leave Americans behind he is in violation of the law, and again can be impeached for violating federal law.
Section 1732 - Release of citizens imprisoned by foreign governments, 22 U.S.C. § 1732 | Casetext Search + Citator

 

[stevil]

Federal law requires them to be detained. They then have the possibility of a hearing by an immigration court. Joe broke the law by not detaining them, whether Joe pardons them or not or whether a court finds them guilty or not guilty in no way absolves Joe of his crimes. The president is not above the law. I'll give you another example. Joe is required to demand the release of U.S. citizens wrongfully held by a foreign government. If he just decides to just "turn the page" on Afghanistan and leave Americans behind he is in violation of the law, and again can be impeached for violating federal law.
Section 1732 - Release of citizens imprisoned by foreign governments, 22 U.S.C. § 1732 | Casetext Search + Citator

None of what you are saying here makes any sense.
Joe doesn't detain people. Presidents don't detain or release people.
Joe pulled out of Afghanistan because Trump made an agreement to pull out. Pulling out of Afghanistan doesn't make Joe a criminal.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I wonder if this makes the Governor of Texas a coyote?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I'll give you another example. Joe is required to demand the release of U.S. citizens wrongfully held by a foreign government.

President Joe Biden did that back in January.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I don't know the full context. Was he possibly referring to these?

Islamic State takes advantage of Ukraine war to increase attacks
(Factual Reporting: High)​

Manitoba Islamic Association shares insight into war in Ukraine from Muslim perspective
(Factual Reporting: High)​

Pakistani PM urges Islamic nations to mediate in Ukraine war
(Factual Reporting: High)​

I see reports of patriots who happen to be muslims fighting in the Ukraine army.

Not sure where the Jihadist reference came from.

 

[James_Lai]

What appears to be madness is simply a methodical way of tearing down the country and the systems that govern it in order to then look like the saviour by coming up with ways to rebuild it to their own liking. In this case, it's called "The Great Reset".

Pretty awful!!

 

[Mayzoo]

Here is the updated press release excerpt from the governor's office along with a link to the full release:
"Governor Abbott announced additional strategies being deployed immediately to secure the border. DPS and the Texas Military Department (TMD) are preparing additional boat blockades, deploying razor-wire at low-water crossings and high-traffic areas, and installing container blockades to stem the flow of illegal crossings. Additionally, TMD will begin the first phase of mass-migration rehearsals this week, and all DPS troopers and specially trained Texas National Guard soldiers will be given riot gear in case of violence among caravans and migrants."
Governor Abbott Takes Aggressive Action To Secure The Border As President Biden Ends Title 42 Expulsions | Office of the Texas Governor | Greg Abbott

This is all just odd to me. He is supposedly worried about illegal immigrants, but he will be offering transportation to migrants instead of illegal immigrants. If he wants to decrease the illegal immigrant population in Texas, then offer the illegal immigrants passage or at least illegal migrants and illegal immigrants.

"Because DHS has no plan for addressing the anticipated surge of illegal immigrants when Title 42 expulsions end, and because DHS is expected to release large groups of migrants into Texas communities, Governor Abbott has directed TDEM to charter buses and flights to transport migrants who have been processed and released from federal custody to Washington, D.C. To board a bus or flight, a migrant must volunteer to be transported and show documentation from DHS. Mayors and county judges can notify TDEM of any DHS-facilitated drop-off of migrants in their communities so that the agency can provide appropriate transportation." (above-cited article, my bolding)

"Differences Between Immigrants and Migrants
Here’s how you can distinguish the two groups of people with one major difference between their intent to move to another country.

• A migrant moves to another country temporarily.
• An immigrant moves to another country intending to settle there permanently.
• Migrants can be people simply moving from one region to another within their country or people crossing international borders.
• An immigrant is always crossing an international border and looking for permanent residency in another country.

stilt.com/blog/2020/08/migrants-vs-immigrants-whats-the-difference/

 

[Mayzoo]

Federal law requires them to be detained. They then have the possibility of a hearing by an immigration court. Joe broke the law by not detaining them, whether Joe pardons them or not or whether a court finds them guilty or not guilty in no way absolves Joe of his crimes. The president is not above the law. I'll give you another example. Joe is required to demand the release of U.S. citizens wrongfully held by a foreign government. If he just decides to just "turn the page" on Afghanistan and leave Americans behind he is in violation of the law, and again can be impeached for violating federal law.
Section 1732 - Release of citizens imprisoned by foreign governments, 22 U.S.C. § 1732 | Casetext Search + Citator

Americans in Afghanistan had over a year's notice (Feb 2020 to August 2021 as I recall) that America was leaving and they had been told to leave the entire time. Those who stayed almost certainly wished to stay and we certainly cannot force them to leave.

 

[wing2000]

The ACLU stepped in and the opposition says it is illegal to take them without permission. Texas governor announces ‘enhanced’ commercial truck inspections at border - El Paso Matters
So as I said, if it has to be voluntary give them the choice of jail in Texas or a free bus ride to Washington D.C. What the Biden administration is doing is destroying small towns in Texas by secretly moving illegals which can more than double the population of these Texas towns. No way can give proper care to them.

Say, are American businesses, who have been hiring illegal immigrants for decades, in on this secret plan to "destroy small towns"?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

"With a historic wave of illegal aliens set to cross the southern border this spring, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has a plan to make the Biden administration deal with the consequences of its own border policies.

Abbott announced on Wednesday that the state will charter buses of illegal immigrants directly to Washington, D.C." Full article:

"With a historic wave of illegal aliens set to cross the southern border this spring, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has a plan to make the Biden administration deal with the consequences of its own border policies.

Abbott announced on Wednesday that the state will charter buses of illegal immigrants directly to Washington, D.C." Full article:
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Announces Plan to Charter Buses of Illegal Aliens to Washington, DC

I think other states should pitch in, perhaps donate resources to help because this is a national problem. We have seen what jihadists have done in the Ukraine, how many will cross our border we don't know. With Central American countries also releasing prisoners that end up in the United States this is a problem that needs to be addressed now.

Not a new move for many states. They give one way tickets to the homeless as well. California is a common destination. Our Father's will is the bleeding heart, those who show excessive sympathy for those who experience misfortune. Maybe it's best to get on the right side of this. Remember Lazarus and the rich man.
God bless those states.
Blessings.

Not a new move for many states. They give one way tickets to the homeless as well. California is a common destination. Our Father's will is the bleeding heart, those who show excessive sympathy for those who experience misfortune. Maybe it's best to get on the right side of this. Remember Lazarus and the rich man.
God bless the states who accept the suffering.
Blessings.

 

[Arcangl86]

Joe took an oath to uphold the Constitution and thus the laws of the land. Joe has violated federal law by releasing illegals into the United States instead of obeying the law and detaining them while they can be processed. As to your second question, yes I do.

What law requires detention while asylum cases are being processed?

 

[Sparagmos]

If we stopped handing out food stamps; is there a possibility that some might take jobs picking produce, rather than starving to death. Image how that would help ease the tax burden on those who are working for a living. They might see an improvement in their quality of life, not only because they could ask for higher wages in a market starving for workers; but because they wouldn't be under as much of a tax burden.

I think you’re misinformed on who is eligible for food stamps. In Texas, they are for people with kids and you have to be working or actively looking for work. No one is living off of food stamps.

 

[Aldebaran]

W
Technically an alien is any noncitizen. But since they are almost all here to work they are usually called "illegal migrants" since they tend to be "migrant workers". Very very few are people that are not here to work. And since they are willing to do the work that those who oppose their presence refuse to do their opposition to them is rather hard to understand.

Hmm, perhaps they might oppose them because they are racIsts?

More likely that those who encourage them to break our laws are those who hate America.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, you asked an improper question. You are projecting again since improper questions are usually asked by people that know that they are wrong. Why didn't you try to ask a question without a false assumption within it?

Now you're giving improper answers. Are you not able/willing to give substantive answers when someone asks you a simple and straightforward question?