Texas Democrats walk out to stop Voting Restrictions Bill

[TLK Valentine]

I've always found it profitable to align myself with the party most in agreement with my standards and beliefs

I've always found it profitable to vote for the person most in agreement with my standards and beliefs. Political parties are a necessary evil which are occasionally more evil than necessary.

But to each his own.

- perhaps you should join the Democratic Party, they seem to appeal to you much better.

Perhaps you should be careful what you wish for. Certain parties might end up vacated (and new ones rise to replace them) if enough people follow that advice.

And honestly, I'm not seeing any downside to that scenario.

 

[Guinan]

Regardless of the party, none of must walk lockstep with them. We must always let them know what we think.

My sentiments exactly and thank you for speaking up.

 

[hislegacy]

Perhaps you should be careful what you wish for. Certain parties might end up vacated (and new ones rise to replace them) if enough people follow that advice.

Democrats QUIT the party in droves, voters FURIOUS over Democrat support for riots

DON’T BE FOOLED: Black Americans are leaving the Democrat party in droves – Investment Watch

Why People Are Leaving the Democratic Party | RealClearPolitics!

 

[Guinan]

I've always found it profitable to vote for the person most in agreement with my standards and beliefs. Political parties are a necessary evil which are occasionally more evil than necessary.

But to each his own.

Perhaps you should be careful what you wish for. Certain parties might end up vacated (and new ones rise to replace them) if enough people follow that advice.

And honestly, I'm not seeing any downside to that scenario.

I don't have plans to leave the Republican Party any time soon. And despite the obvious disapproval by other conservatives of me being a Republican and publicly opposing Trump, I will continue on as a Never Trump Republican. I will continue to speak out against him and his yes-man loyalists.

I spent many years being in lockstep with the Republican Party, but the rise of Donald Trump brought me to my senses. I won't ever be loyal to the party again as long as he still has control and influence over it. I'll continue to vote Democratic if that's what it takes to diminish the political power of the GOP under Trump's control. I'd rather see the entire party crash and burn than continue to be under his control. Trumpism is an anathema to me and my hope is to see it eliminated from the entire party. If the Republican Party under Trump has to crumble to the ground for that to happen, then so be it.

 

[Oneiric1975]

I don't have plans to leave the Republican Party any time soon. And despite the obvious disapproval by other conservatives of me being a Republican and publicly opposing Trump, I will continue on as a Never Trump Republican. I'll continue to speak out against him and his yes-man loyalists.

I spent many years being in lockstep with the Republican Party, but the rise of Donald Trump brought me to my senses. I won't ever be loyal to the Party again as long as he still has control and influence over it. I'll continue to vote Democratic if that's what it takes to diminish the political power of the GOP under Trump's control. I'd rather see the entire party crash and burn than continue to be under his control. Trumpism is an anathema to me and my hope is to see it eliminated from the entire Party. If the Republican Party under Trump has to crumble to the ground for that to happen, then so be it.

Unfortunately Trump was a kind of indicator for the GOP, not necessarily a "state change". The thing Trump allowed the GOP to do is realize that there is literally no limit to what one can do if one is able to abandon anything like integrity or care for the rank-and-file US citizen.

The GOP started about 40 years ago steadily undercutting education as a value and their voter base skewed further and further toward the less educated voter. This allowed them to further play up fears that could be leveraged. Whether it was fear of foreigners or fear of economic impact if science is correct and finally they needed to know exactly how far they could push this low-information voter base to support them no matter what.

Trump showed the way. He and Mitch McConnell have shown that there is no cost to taking extreme positions, even positions diametrically opposed to the same position they took just a couple years back on any given topic. Hypocrisy is for those who can remember more than a day in the past.

Now that they have established that they are OK with a violent insurrection against the US government there is literally no boundary to them. They are free of all moderating influences and can now proceed to leverage this knowledge to grab as much power as they want and hold it as long as they like.

Democracy dies when one party realizes it can be gamed and their naked lust for pure unadulterated power is clear for all to see.

 

[Guinan]

Democrats QUIT the party in droves, voters FURIOUS over Democrat support for riots

DON’T BE FOOLED: Black Americans are leaving the Democrat party in droves – Investment Watch

Why People Are Leaving the Democratic Party | RealClearPolitics!

Do you have any recent articles that aren't over a year old?

And I have to question the validity of the first article because of its news source.

The NOQ Report.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do you have any recent articles that aren't over a year old?

Not to mention, the FURIOUS DROVES LEAVING team blue didn't seem to have much effect on 2020.

 

[hislegacy]

Do you have any recent articles that aren't over a year old?

You missed Real Clear Politics - or left it out - regardless.

My point (thank you for helping demonstrate it.) The political line - people are leaving *** party in droves is cyclical - I year ago people were leaving the Democratic Party in droves - this year people are leaving the Republican party in droves.

You cannot judge either by what is being touted as 'people leaving in droves'.

Hope that clarifies my point.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Democrats QUIT the party in droves, voters FURIOUS over Democrat support for riots

DON’T BE FOOLED: Black Americans are leaving the Democrat party in droves – Investment Watch

Why People Are Leaving the Democratic Party | RealClearPolitics!

Still not seeing the downside. Are you?

 

[trunks2k]

Not to mention, the FURIOUS DROVES LEAVING team blue didn't seem to have much effect on 2020.

Don't you get it? That's PROOF the demoncrats cheated! People were leaving the party in DROVES! So how did they win?!

 

[hislegacy]

Still not seeing the downside. Are you?

I personally see zero downside to Democrats leaving the party. I applaud them doing so.

 

[hislegacy]

Still not seeing the downside. Are you?

Did you miss this - I think the line "people are leaving (insert party)" is a whole lot of nothing.

My point (thank you for helping demonstrate it.) The political line - people are leaving *** party in droves is cyclical - I year ago people were leaving the Democratic Party in droves - this year people are leaving the Republican party in droves.

You cannot judge either by what is being touted as 'people leaving in droves'.

Hope that clarifies my point.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Did you miss this - I think the line "people are leaving (insert party)" is a whole lot of nothing.

At the end of the day it is the election result which define which party wins .. this result doesn’t say people are leaving democratic party.


Democrat Wins Big in New Mexico Special Congressional Election

 

[TLK Valentine]

I personally see zero downside to Democrats leaving the party. I applaud them doing so.

Republicans as well -- correct?

Personally, I think there ought to be a lot more than two major political parties.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Did you miss this - I think the line "people are leaving (insert party)" is a whole lot of nothing.

Saw it; didn't care.

It's unfortunate that the political duopoly will always be with us, but it's never a bad thing to imagine the world as it should be... once in a while.

 

[KCfromNC]

Thank heavens for the Democrats! They prevented a terrible mistake. The Texas voting law called for Sunday voting to start at 1 pm. But that was simply a typo. The Republicans meant to put 11 AM.

In an interview Tuesday with NPR, one of the negotiators, Rep. Travis Clardy of Nacogdoches, said the 1 p.m. start time was an error and that it should have been 11 a.m. Despite his claim, no Republicans raised an issue with the start time during final debate over the bill, and one of them even defended it.

Clardy told NPR that the Sunday start time was "one of the things I look forward to fixing the most" in a special session.

"That was not intended to be reduced," Clardy said. "I think there was a — call it a mistake if you want to — what should have been 11 was actually printed up as 1."

After Clardy's interview with NPR, another GOP negotiator and the bill's House sponsor, Rep. Briscoe Cain of Deer Park, said that what Clardy said was true and that lawmakers intended to fix the start time in a special session.

Call it what you want, but it looks like this strategy already produced positive results.

(assuming the promises in the last sentence are actually kept)

 

[Kentonio]

Unfortunately Trump was a kind of indicator for the GOP, not necessarily a "state change". The thing Trump allowed the GOP to do is realize that there is literally no limit to what one can do if one is able to abandon anything like integrity or care for the rank-and-file US citizen.

The GOP started about 40 years ago steadily undercutting education as a value and their voter base skewed further and further toward the less educated voter. This allowed them to further play up fears that could be leveraged. Whether it was fear of foreigners or fear of economic impact if science is correct and finally they needed to know exactly how far they could push this low-information voter base to support them no matter what.

Trump showed the way. He and Mitch McConnell have shown that there is no cost to taking extreme positions, even positions diametrically opposed to the same position they took just a couple years back on any given topic. Hypocrisy is for those who can remember more than a day in the past.

Now that they have established that they are OK with a violent insurrection against the US government there is literally no boundary to them. They are free of all moderating influences and can now proceed to leverage this knowledge to grab as much power as they want and hold it as long as they like.

Democracy dies when one party realizes it can be gamed and their naked lust for pure unadulterated power is clear for all to see.

Yup, the GOPs refusal to rally behind condemnation of Trump for 1/6 just means that the downward spiral will continue. Americans rewarding Trump with an extremely healthy vote total despite his loss, and rewarding the GOP with their house gains just confirms it. The bottom has not been reached, and when it falls even further than 'armed assault on the nations Capitol' then I suspect the actual bottom is going to be beyond disturbing.