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I said:
Gladly, but I must ASSUME you understand "belief/faith" are
the same: I will prove it if you need, for now I assume you know:
"FreeGrace2 said:
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Those words are nouns, not verbs (action). It seems you are trying to force a noun to be a verb. God does NOT cause anyone to believe.
First:
I assume you have a Strong's concordance
Look up G4102 translated as "faith"
Now look up G4100 translated "believe"
which comes from G4102 (to have "faith")
Secondly:
"Believe" is a verb meaning "to have faith"
Thirdly:
You say God does NOT cause anyone to believe.
That is your opinion and you are entitled to have wrong opinions,
but the Bible (without question) teaches belief comes from God...
and is only possible to those God "elected" according to His own
Good Pleasure (and not because anything that elect would do)
This is known as the Gospel of Grace... you preach a gospel
of works (the "boaster's gospel")
BTW... are 35 examples of your error enough?
Or do you need more?
Those who CANNOT believe = not His sheep
Joh 10:26
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without,
all these things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
So, it only takes TWO (2) passages to establish that some men
were NEVER MEANT to be saved... they COULD NOT be forgiven.
They were never ELECTED or CHOSEN to be saved.
On the other hand, there are DOZENS of passages that establish
that GOD decides who He will elect to believe and be conformed
and be saved.
So you can PRETEND that MAN DECIDES to become "elect"...
but you are only pretending (the BROAD WAY most Christians follow)
you have not found the narrow way that leads to eternal life.
The Gospel is one of monergism (God alone) not synergism
(God needs man's help).
Those who CAN believe = His sheep
(1) Joh 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
(2) Joh 1:13
Which were born, not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.
(3) Rom 9:16
So then it is
not of him that willeth,
nor of him that runneth,
but of God that sheweth mercy.
(4) Php 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do
of his good pleasure.
(5) Joh 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(6) Joh 6:44
No man can come to me,
except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
and I will raise him up at the last day.
(7) 1Jn 4:19
We love him,
because he first loved us.
(8) Joh 17:9
I pray for them: I pray not for the world,
but for them which thou hast given me;
for they are thine.
(9) Eph 1:4
According as
he hath chosen us in him before the foundation
of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before
him in love:
(10) Gal 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by the faith OF [not in] Jesus Christ, even we
have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by
the faith OF [not in] Christ, and not by the works of the law:
for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
(11) Joh 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me;
and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
(12) Rom 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any
good or evil,
that the purpose of God according to election
might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
(13) Joh 6:39
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me,
that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up again at the last day.
(14) Mat_22:14
For many are called,
[called by the Gospel]
but few are chosen.
[chosen to be saved]
(15) Mat 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last:
for many be called,
[called by the Gospel]
but few chosen.
[chosen to become saved]
(16) Rom 9:15
For he saith to Moses,
I will have mercy on whom
I will have mercy, and
I will have compassion
on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then
it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth,
but of God that sheweth mercy.
(17) Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that
[faith is]
not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9
Not of works,
lest any man should boast.
(18) Rom 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant
according to the election of grace.
(19) 1Th 1:4
Knowing, brethren beloved,
your election of God.
(20) Joh 13:18
I speak not of you all:
I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.
(21) Joh 15:16
Ye have not chosen me,
but I have chosen you,
and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit,
and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall
ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
(22) Joh 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own:
but because ye are not of the world,
but I have chosen you
out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
(23) Act 1:24
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts
of all men,
shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
(24) Act 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way:
for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name
before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
(25) Rom 9:18
Therefore
hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy,
and whom he will he hardeneth.
(26) Rom 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump
to make one vessel unto honour,
and another unto dishonour?
(27) Rom 9:22
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power
known, endured with much longsuffering the
vessels of wrath
fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the
riches of his glory
on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
(28) Act 22:14
And he said,
The God of our fathers hath chosen thee,
that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
(29) 2Th 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you,
brethren beloved of the Lord,
because God hath from the
beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification
of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
(30) 2Ti_2:4
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please
him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
(31) Jas 2:5
Hearken, my beloved brethren,
Hath not God chosen the poor
of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
(32) 1Pe 2:4
To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men,
but chosen of God, and precious,
(33) 1Pe 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises
of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
(34) Rev 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings:
and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
(35) 1Pe_1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,
through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling
of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace,
be multiplied.
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