Tattoos

[sherri]

ok

would jesus have gotten tatoos?

Since it says in the bible not too I can't see it happening (and I just wanted to say that I can't find any mention of the whole 'tattooing yourself for certain gods' as you mentioned, in the bible) only the statement 'don't tatoo your skin'. Not saying you're definatly wrong, I just can't see anything in the bible that supports it, thats all.


I have yet to see God bless sin - only answer prayer regardless because he loves us all and doesn't reserve his answers for those who are being perfect christians (because there arn't any).

And please don't think I'm attacking you because I am so not . We're all in the walk together and one of the main purposes of forums is to discuss issues and debate (hopefully without offending each other too much).

 

[Audiomechanic]

Perhaps you should start living a puritan life and not taking any artificial chemicals, or exposing yourself to UV rays of the sun, then.

Now you're just reaching.

The post above me poses a good point. WWJD? Did Jesus walk outside? Of course. Walking outside is not a sin. Did Jesus eat the food of the land? Sure. I agree that I could make better eating choices, but today's world, it's pretty difficult to eat food that is "all natural" all the time.

When you get a tattoo, there is a deliberate thought process that goes before hand. I don't walk into a resteraunt and think, "Gee, how can I poisen my body in this place?" But when you walk into a tattoo parlor, you are making a deliberate choice to place a perminant mark on your body. Make a perminant change to your body.

Another good point was raised earlier. If God so favored tattoos, if they are so "Holy," then why do most of them (I have been in a lot of them with friends) have demonic images and sexual images everywhere, some guy with no natural skin color left smoking a cigaret while cussing while he colors your skin? So far, I've enever seen a tatoo parlor built into a church.

 

[intricatic]

Now you're just reaching.

The post above me poses a good point. WWJD? Did Jesus walk outside? Of course. Walking outside is not a sin. Did Jesus eat the food of the land? Sure. I agree that I could make better eating choices, but today's world, it's pretty difficult to eat food that is "all natural" all the time.

When you get a tattoo, there is a deliberate thought process that goes before hand. I don't walk into a resteraunt and think, "Gee, how can I poisen my body in this place?" But when you walk into a tattoo parlor, you are making a deliberate choice to place a perminant mark on your body. Make a perminant change to your body.

Another good point was raised earlier. If God so favored tattoos, if they are so "Holy," then why do most of them (I have been in a lot of them with friends) have demonic images and sexual images everywhere, some guy with no natural skin color left smoking a cigaret while cussing while he colors your skin? So far, I've enever seen a tatoo parlor built into a church.

LOL You've not been to many good tattoo parlors. And I'm sorry you feel that way, but not everyone does. I'm not reaching; those things I mentioned are far more dangerous to your body than tattoos are.

 

[intricatic]

ok

would jesus have gotten tatoos?

Since it says in the bible not too I can't see it happening (and I just wanted to say that I can't find any mention of the whole 'tattooing yourself for certain gods' as you mentioned, in the bible) only the statement 'don't tatoo your skin'. Not saying you're definatly wrong, I just can't see anything in the bible that supports it, thats all.



I have yet to see God bless sin - only answer prayer regardless because he loves us all and doesn't reserve his answers for those who are being perfect christians (because there arn't any).


And please don't think I'm attacking you because I am so not . We're all in the walk together and one of the main purposes of forums is to discuss issues and debate (hopefully without offending each other too much).

Like I said, you have to look at the context of the quotes. The entire thing was based on pagan rituals in those days. The only reason you would have gotten a tattoo is for protection from spirits, or protection from pagan gods.

But anyhow, all these ridiculous legalities are giving me a migraine. My friends had saved those people, not because of their prayers alone, but because everyone else had failed - none of them were down to earth, and most people in the church condemned them for the way they lived on the same grounds that I'm sure many people here would. My friends were the only ones willing to sit down and talk to them without all that judgement.

And no worries, I don't get offended easily. Though I do seem to get migraines easily.

And just so you know: I don't smoke pot, but I think it's ridiculous to outlaw it, and to look at it as some evil thing that will draw focus away from God. The wisest Christians I've ever met have been stoned.

 

[Irascible]

Context my man, context. In Gen 1:29-31 God was talking to Adam in an unfallen world. God gave us a paradise and told us to enjoy. God did not give us the Earth in its current condition. Hence we are not to partake of it as we could of then.

"idiocy in prohibition" is a laughable concept. The Ten Commandments amounts to ten prohibitions. Are they idiotic as well? Of course not. Is it idiotic to prohibit your kid from eating Death Caps? If we are to interpret your scriptural quote in the way you do then I suppose not. But I doubt you'd endorse the idea.

 

[Audiomechanic]

LOL You've not been to many good tattoo parlors. And I'm sorry you feel that way, but not everyone does. I'm not reaching; those things I mentioned are far more dangerous to your body than tattoos are.

I agree that in the physical sense, the things you mentioned are more dangerous than tatoos. But sin is sin in God's eyes, the severety of it doesn't matter. All of the things you mention are wrong according to God's Word. We live in a gray-area world where every issue has a gray area and nothing is just plain right or just plain wrong (which I disagree with strongly). God is not a gray-area God. It's either right (i.e. God completely agrees with it and promotes it and so far I have not found God promoting tats in the Bible), or it's wrong. God doesn't say, "Well, it's wrong BUT....."

I realize not everyone feels this way, and it's unfortunate (in my opinion). But that's ok, I guess. It appears that I am in a minority that is shrinking rapidly on this issue...which is funny because the line between right and wrong (in general) is becoming more and more blurred every day.

 

[intricatic]

I agree that in the physical sense, the things you mentioned are more dangerous than tatoos. But sin is sin in God's eyes, the severety of it doesn't matter. All of the things you mention are wrong according to God's Word. We live in a gray-area world where every issue has a gray area and nothing is just plain right or just plain wrong (which I disagree with strongly). God is not a gray-area God. It's either right (i.e. God completely agrees with it and promotes it and so far I have not found God promoting tats in the Bible), or it's wrong. God doesn't say, "Well, it's wrong BUT....."

I realize not everyone feels this way, and it's unfortunate (in my opinion). But that's ok, I guess. It appears that I am in a minority that is shrinking rapidly on this issue...which is funny because the line between right and wrong (in general) is becoming more and more blurred every day.

I agree completely that there is absolute truth and no grey-area in most issues of sin, but I still just cannot justify tattoos as being sinful. I think it's more of a traditional outlook on it that creates a bias towards that side of the issue, even though the reality is that there is nothing wrong with it, unless in the cases where people are getting them to glorify the self or some other pagan god/goddess.

It's funny because I know where you're coming from and I would completely agree that the line between right and wrong is being blurred. I just don't think that's the case in this topic. I think it's more that the reasoning behind tattoos have shifted into a completely differently spectrum of existance; not everyone gets them for the same reasons anymore. To a lot of people, they're just ways of remembering very pertinent times in their lives. They're neither just decoration, or to glorify any other god or goddess, however.

 

[Audiomechanic]

Well, I do have a very traditional outlook on a lot of things. I constantly tell people that I should have been born 56 years ago. I'd fit in much better. I'm 22 but my mindset is similar to that of the WWII generation.

Oh, well. Guess we'll agree to disagree. We both made good arguments. Maybe we'll convince others one way or the other with our comments.

 

[intricatic]

Well, I do have a very traditional outlook on a lot of things. I constantly tell people that I should have been born 56 years ago. I'd fit in much better. I'm 22 but my mindset is similar to that of the WWII generation.

Oh, well. Guess we'll agree to disagree. We both made good arguments. Maybe we'll convince others one way or the other with our comments.

Contrary to popular beliefs, I have a very traditional outlook, too. With some individuality. Heh.. I'd have prefered to have been born a few hundred years ago. Then I'd be taking your side on this whole tattoo business.

Anyhow, thanks for the convo mate, sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

Since when did getting a tattoo become a sin???

And how exactly is getting a tattoo 'defiling the body'?

I guess I just don't get that.

Fair enough if you were adorning yourselves with satanic symbols, or swearing or whatever, but to say that tattoos in and of themselves is 'defilement', well, that's a bit OTT in my opinion.

What is it about tattoos that makes some people on here think of them as some form of 'defiling'???

There are some gorgeous tattoos out there - far removed from the standard 'olive green and black' most people think of when they think tattoo.

What about henna for example? Or Samoan/Maori/Fijian traditional tattoos? Some of them are quite beautiful.

Sasch

 

[D'Ann]

I'm closing this thread temporarily to clean it up.

 

[D'Ann]

MOD HAT ON

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DEBATING DRUG USE. PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD ON DISCUSSING TATTOOS.

OTHERWISE, THIS THREAD WILL BE PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

MOD HAT OFF

 

[Jessa137]

I have one tattoo. It's on my lower back. It's a cross with the crown of thorns coming out from each side. It's pretty cool. I am going to get another one, too, that says "Grace" in aramaic or hebrew. I want it on the back of my neck. Anyone know what the word "grace" would be in either of those languages? Let me know!

Thanks,
Jess <><

 

[sherri]

Well, I do have a very traditional outlook on a lot of things..

There's nothing wrong with holding on to a moral standard while the rest of a society slowly flushes itself down the toilet.

Just because you don't agree with the norm doesn't mean you're wrong. It just means your standards are 'better' not 'old fashioned'.

 

[Lexi]

Yeah the chinese letter on white kids really crack me up. I saw one kid that had them all down his arm. I asked him what it meant and he was like " strength and power through unity" or some nonsense like that. It probally means,,, "i can't believe this cracker paid 100bucks for this tattoo he can't even read"

*snort* Sorry, that cracked me up! I personally think it's okay to get a tattoo that means something to you. I would like to get the Celtic knot of Motherhood done someday and with that you add a dot to the inside of the design for each child you have.

 

[Audiomechanic]

There's nothing wrong with holding on to a moral standard while the rest of a society slowly flushes itself down the toilet.

Just because you don't agree with the norm doesn't mean you're wrong. It means your standards are 'better' not 'old fashioned'.

Thanks!!! I feel a little better and less out of place now.

As far as society going down the toilet, lets just keep that on the "DL" k? Don't want anyone freaking out.

 

[intricatic]

Society isn't going down the toilet because of tattoos.

It's going down the toilet because of a great number of idiotic philosophies that are infesting many urban areas.

I would say it's also because of this concept of urbanism the government was pushing for since the early 20th century, but that would be just my own preferential thinking getting in the way.

 

[sherri]

Society isn't going down the toilet because of tattoos.

If there was smilie hitting another smilie over the head with something hard I'd be using it here



yeah I have ideas about the urban thing too but...........


I think we'd have to start another thread for that one

 

[amoonsin]

I'm not going to read all of this. But if you compare how the OT and NT are and when in time Jesus came. He could have came 100 years earlier or 100 years later, he came when he knew he would have the most impact, when the earth was the most ready for him, or grown up in a since. When you are a kid, you're parents give you rules to follow because you are a child, you can't play in street, no talking to strangers, no ice cream before meals, etc. But when we grew out of our child ages we grew out of those rules as well and into the rules of your government, state, etc. I believe the earth grew out of the OT rules and into the NT rules that Jesus taught. Just my 2 cents.

 

[AceHero]

I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with tattoos, but they don't appeal to me at all and I'd never consider getting one. I probably regret it later on in life.

I have a classmate who has a HUGE one on her back...I mean, it stretches from side to side! It's waaay too noticable.