Taking questions on the Creation

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

I love it when creationists rely on fallacies like this to make their point. Keep doing what your doing and let the rest of us know how fringe you guys are.

Nice picture but I don't see the hammer.

 

[AV1611VET]

If God can do anything, can he create a stone so heavy that not even God can lift it?

Yes, then He would set it aside and get on with His work.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why should we ask you when we can read it for ourselves?

That's a very good question --

Have you read it for yourself?

or do you make things up and add them to the story for other creationists to believe?

It is not beyond me to make educated suppositions.

I noticed your post count, are you an invalid?

Not totally.

GOD DID IT - CASE CLOSED?

Yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

When did God create the King James Version?

AD 1611.

Was it always around?

Yes and no.

His Word is eternal; but It takes different forms, of which the AV1611 is One of Them.

What did people do before modern English was invented?

Used Old English?

 

[AV1611VET]

I got one, why would it matter to Christianity the way in which God created life, and the universe?

Instant creation brings the participants onto the scene in an instant of time.

What is done, then, is literal -- not figurative.

Three major doctrines that cannot be accounted for if evolution was used are:

1. No death before the Fall
2. Original Sin
3. Our sin nature

Also, I believe that you are an embedded age creationist, (correct me if I'm wrong).

No correction needed -- you are absolutely right.

So, is there anything that scientists could discover that would make you believe that the world is not 6000years old?

They already have -- I do not believe this world is 6000 years old; I believe it is 4.57 billion years old, but has only been in existence for 6015 years.

• Physically = 4.57 billion years old
• Existentially = 6015 years

 

[AV1611VET]

Ibtl

No doubt a reference to this: 502.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Why should we ask you when we can read it for ourselves? or do you make things up and add them to the story for other creationists to believe?

I noticed your post count, are you an invalid?

AV gets his post count so high by posting on counting threads where he just posts one whole number after another. At least that way he can legitimately say that he has posted something rational.

 

[greenery]

AV gets his post count so high by posting on counting threads where he just posts one whole number after another. At least that way he can legitimately say that he has posted something rational.

Posting on counting threads? doing maths or just typing in numbers? I don't understand.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Posting on counting threads? doing maths or just typing in numbers? I don't understand.

just typing in a number and entering the post, for example counting by 10
http://www.christianforums.com/t7413149/

 

[rockaction]

Maybe because all the writers knew the prophecies that were intended to be met and knew of the other writers.

Yes these probably are forgries, especially the first passage which was almost certainly added or at least highly embellished by a later Christian translator. Josephus was an orthodox jew and would not have referred to Jesus as the Christ.

you broke the two rules, biblebelvr. so I guess you proved my point.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Ibtl

No doubt a reference to this: 502.

um, does lbtl mean look back to learn?????

 

[AV1611VET]

um, does lbtl mean look back to learn?????

In Before The Lock

(IOW, assuming I will eventually request this thread be closed.)

 

[The Lady Kate]

Considering Thor is the planet Jupiter I won't take the other side of that bet.

Sorry Agonaces, but Thor is not the planet Jupiter... Thor is, in fact, the state of Wisconsin.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Due to some misunderstandings with where I stand on the Creation Event, I'm going to bring this subject up again.

If you have any questions concerning the Creation Event, I'll be happy to try and answer them to the best of my ability.

I really don't care where you stand on the "Creation Event." Thanks for asking though.

 

[bibleblevr]

Maybe because all the writers knew the prophecies that were intended to be met and knew of the other writers.

So you theory is that they all got together to make up a false story of a guy named Jesus, then wrote it down and along with the other apostles, started a religion. If so why did they do this? They had nothing to gain, in fact they all (but one) died grizzly deaths for this scheme of thier's

Andrew-Crucified
Bartholomew- beaten and crucified
James-stoned
Other James- beheaded
John- exiled, then old age
Judas- stoned
Peter- crucified upside down!
Philip- crucified
Simion-crusified
Thomas- killed by spear
Mathius- stoned

Yes these probably are forgries, especially the first passage which was almost certainly added or at least highly embellished by a later Christian translator. Josephus was an orthodox jew and would not have referred to Jesus as the Christ.

I don't know enough about Josephus or other ancient historians to argue with you, maybe someone else will pick up the debate.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

So you theory is that they all got together to make up a false story of a guy named Jesus, then wrote it down and along with the other apostles, started a religion. If so why did they do this? They had nothing to gain, in fact they all (but one) died grizzly deaths for this scheme of thier's

Andrew-Crucified
Bartholomew- beaten and crucified
James-stoned
Other James- beheaded
John- exiled, then old age
Judas- stoned
Peter- crucified upside down!
Philip- crucified
Simion-crusified
Thomas- killed by spear
Mathius- stoned




I don't know enough about Josephus or other ancient historians to argue with you, maybe someone else will pick up the debate.

Yep. They had to save face.

 

[Freodin]

So you theory is that they all got together to make up a false story of a guy named Jesus, then wrote it down and along with the other apostles, started a religion. If so why did they do this? They had nothing to gain, in fact they all (but one) died grizzly deaths for this scheme of thier's

Andrew-Crucified
Bartholomew- beaten and crucified
James-stoned
Other James- beheaded
John- exiled, then old age
Judas- stoned
Peter- crucified upside down!
Philip- crucified
Simion-crusified
Thomas- killed by spear
Mathius- stoned




I don't know enough about Josephus or other ancient historians to argue with you, maybe someone else will pick up the debate.

Maybe you should have considered that the gospels were not written by either of the persons you mentioned? And that the accounts of their grizzly deaths might be as false as the figures who alledgedly suffered them?

 

[Chesterton]

Three major doctrines that cannot be accounted for if evolution was used are:

1. No death before the Fall
2. Original Sin
3. Our sin nature

Can you elaborate on this? I don't understand why any of those couldn't be accounted for if evolution is true.

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you elaborate on this? I don't understand why any of those couldn't be accounted for if evolution is true.

A literal Adam would be needed.

As it is, the closest evolution gets to them are y-Adam and mtDNA Eve, who supposedly lived thousands of years apart from each other.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

A literal Adam would be needed.

As it is, the closest evolution gets to them are y-Adam and mtDNA Eve, who supposedly lived thousands of years apart from each other.

Easy there buddy, stick with creation. You have no idea what evolution "gets." Stay on the reservation.