Taking Questions on Instant Creation

AV1611VET · Sep 9, 2017

Kylie said:
So you don't want to answer my question?

I don't care to go all through Genesis 1 and explain what was created ex nihilo and what was created ex materia.

I will, however, do one each for you.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The earth was created ex nihilo.

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Birds were created ex materia.

Larniavc · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
just noticed your tag.
an ex believer, one who went out fom us because they were never of us.

im sorry i dont converse with athiests .
i dont believe you exist

I do exist.

Alithis · Sep 10, 2017

Larnievc said:
I do exist.

I'm sure you do.
Just not atheists.
Yes I'm sure you can give rhemes of evidence supporting the existance of atheists. But I believe you are all fake any way.

VirOptimus · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
I'm sure you do.
Just not atheists.
Yes I'm sure you can give rhemes of evidence supporting the existance of atheists. But I believe you are all fake any way.

Hubris.

Larniavc · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
I'm sure you do.
Just not atheists.
Yes I'm sure you can give rhemes of evidence supporting the existance of atheists. But I believe you are all fake any way.

So you are suggesting I'm lieing to everyone (including myself)?

driewerf · Sep 10, 2017

Ygrene Imref said:
Why is it considered impossible, and/or improbable?

Why the and/or? Aren't impossible and improbable mutually exclusive?

Obliquinaut · Sep 10, 2017

AV1611VET said:
You got questions?

I got answers.

Oh, DO you? Excellent!

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...or of reality.

Can we be clear that you only have guesses? That indeed, even if you rely on the Bible itself we are looking only at your interpretation of the Bible?

Will you add the caveat that you might be in error?

Ygrene Imref · Sep 10, 2017

driewerf said:
Why the and/or? Aren't impossible and improbable mutually exclusive?

Not at all.

Well, not *really;* impossibility is a human limit, but not one that is universal. Infinities exist even if we can't perceive them.

AV1611VET · Sep 10, 2017

Obliquinaut said:
Oh, DO you?

Indeedy-do!

Fire when ready!

Obliquinaut · Sep 10, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Indeedy-do!

Fire when ready!

I already asked one! And, surprise, you didn't answer it!

"Are you willing to add the caveat that your answers may be mistaken?"

Alithis · Sep 10, 2017

VirOptimus said:
Hubris.

= flaming

If you can't see the point i`m making ..say so.

The scriptures are truth. They state that all creation declares God.
So if in the face of all evidence they say they don't believe God exists. Then they 1 .do so by willful choice 2. Lie
Because if the scripture is true. And it is.then atheists lie... Or God lies.
And we know God cannot lie.
Do the math.

By me saying I don't believe an atheist exists.. And that I believe they are fake.
I'm making the point that any one “choose” to disbelieve anything regardless of obvious evidence.

Your flamming accusation was in haste to say the least.

VirOptimus · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
= flaming

If you can't see the point i`m making ..say so.

The scriptures are truth. They state that all creation declares God.
So if in the face of all evidence they say they don't believe God exists. Then they 1 .do so by willful choice 2. Lie
Because if the scripture is true. And it is.then atheists lie... Or God lies.
And we know God cannot lie.
Do the math.

By me saying I don't believe an atheist exists.. And that I believe they are fake.
I'm making the point that any one “choose” to disbelieve anything regardless of obvious evidence.

Your flamming accusation was in haste to say the least.

No, I was correct and your further posts prove it.

Alithis · Sep 10, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Did you ever see this post I made?

Here's a test I made up in another thread:

Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.

Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".

Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.

The triune Godhead is a violation of what scientific law?

Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.

What day was Adam created on?

Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?

Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.

Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?

Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.

SOURCE: Noah's Ark

I want to answer

Alithis · Sep 10, 2017

Just realised you have atheist tag too.
So your response is typical.
Off to ignore you go .

VirOptimus said:
No, I was correct and your further posts prove it.

VirOptimus · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
Just realised you have atheist tag too.
So your response is typical.
Off to ignore you go .

Sure, if you cant answer, admit defeat.

Ygrene Imref · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
= flaming

If you can't see the point i`m making ..say so.

The scriptures are truth. They state that all creation declares God.
So if in the face of all evidence they say they don't believe God exists. Then they 1 .do so by willful choice 2. Lie
Because if the scripture is true. And it is.then atheists lie... Or God lies.
And we know God cannot lie.
Do the math.

By me saying I don't believe an atheist exists.. And that I believe they are fake.
I'm making the point that any one “choose” to disbelieve anything regardless of obvious evidence.

Your flamming accusation was in haste to say the least.

Indeed is it a choice to believe something.

Obliquinaut · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
I'm sure you do.
Just not atheists.
Yes I'm sure you can give rhemes of evidence supporting the existance of atheists. But I believe you are all fake any way.

Atheists are fake?

That is a curious position to take.

AV1611VET · Sep 10, 2017

Alithis said:
I want to answer

Go right ahead, my friend!

Obliquinaut · Sep 10, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Go right ahead, my friend!

Are you not going to answer my question, AV?

Kylie · Sep 10, 2017

AV1611VET said:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The earth was created ex nihilo.

Where does it specify that God created the heavens and the earth from nothing?

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Birds were created ex materia.

Yeah, that's fine. In the context of Gen 1, I'm happy to agree to that.

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