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Taking Questions on Creationism

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Why would God decide to arrange the fossils in an order consistent with evolution?
Do you make your bed with the sheet on top and the blanket on the bottom?

Should cars have their tires on the roof, and their roofs on the bottom?

Or were they intelligently designed for optimum operation?
 
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It's both.

What do you think this is about?

Job 38:35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

Do you think it's just relevant to Job's time?

Or is the Bible unique, in that It is a live Book ... like It says It is?
But your interpretation Of Isaiah 28:10 is entirely out of context and unrelated to the clear import of the text. It's not just making scripure relevant to today, it's a grotesque and self-serving misuse of the Bible. Why do you think Christians like me come here to argue with creationists? Do you really think we care that much about the theory of evolution? No, it's to combat the insult to God's holy word on which creationism is based--you have provided a clearcut example which I will refer to constantly in future.
 
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But your interpretation Of Isaiah 28:10 is entirely out of context and unrelated to the clear import of the text.
Are you telling me that a man who tells his son he (the man) did something "decently and in order" IS NOT giving the son the impression that his father does other things "decently and in order"?

I paint my house decently and in order; but I mow my lawn helter skelter. :doh:
 
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Are you telling me that a man who tells his son he (the man) did something "decently and in order" IS NOT giving the son the impression that his father does other things "decently and in order"?
And that you get to dictate what the order is? Not a chance.
 
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And that you get to dictate what the order is? Not a chance.
I think the ground dictates the order.

Just like those round things out there dictate what order they are in from the sun.
 
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Here's one: Why is denying deep time based on your interpretation of scripture different from denying a spheroid earth based on your interpretation of scripture?
Because the only description of the shape of the earth given during the creation events is "without form."
 
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Okay, so if I told you then that it is possible that God could have layered the earth like it is, in accordance with the way He wrote His scriptures ...

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

... when He cleaned up after the Flood and terraformed the Earth back to a habitable planet within the space of one or two weeks, you would what?

Accuse Him of being tidy, or accuse Him of being deceptive?
Deceptive. how is the order in which fossils are found being 'tidy'? Why not just be honest about the facts, is there something to hide?
 
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Deceptive. how is the order in which fossils are found being 'tidy'? Why not just be honest about the facts, is there something to hide?
So you're saying it's not tidy?
 
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Do you make your bed with the sheet on top and the blanket on the bottom?

Should cars have their tires on the roof, and their roofs on the bottom?

Or were they intelligently designed for optimum operation?
In what way does burying the cambrian fossils 3 miles down, the Mississippian fossils 2 miles down, and the cretatious fossils 1 mile down constitute a design for optimum operation?
 
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In what way does burying the cambrian fossils 3 miles down, the Mississippian fossils 2 miles down, and the cretatious fossils 1 mile down constitute a design for optimum operation?
Beats me.
 
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Beats me.
Ah your God arranged the fossils in an order consistent with evolution, since for some reason that is the optimum order, but you have no idea why that is optimum?

I'm not buying it.
 
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Ah your God arranged the fossils in an order consistent with evolution, since for some reason that is the optimum order, but you have no idea why that is optimum?

I'm not buying it.
Suit yourself.

Perhaps He arranged them in the order that the kinds were created in Genesis 1?

I don't know.

I do know, however, that Noah and his family weren't the only persons around.

Angels were there as well.

So perhaps the order of arrangement is a message to them about something.

Don't know.
 
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Suit yourself.

Perhaps He arranged them in the order that the kinds were created in Genesis 1?

I don't know.

I do know, however, that Noah and his family weren't the only persons around.

Angels were there as well.

So perhaps the order of arrangement is a message to them about something.

Don't know.
No such luck. Fruiting trees are said in Genesis to be before all sea animals, but the record shows otherwise. Likewise whales are not as deep as they would be if be based on genesis 1.

And then you have the steady progression of fossils like the horse series. How can you explain that?

Did God do it in this order for angels somehow? Oh dear, that seems like a desperate grasp for an explanation.

How about we use Occams razor? Could it be that the fossils look like they lived at different time because they actually lived in different times?
 
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No such luck.
Fair enough.

Let's get back to the Creation Week in this thread and forget about fossils; or you just might end up doubting all your life.
 
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