Taking questions on Creationism.

[BananaSlug]

Considering I used to be a YEC, I am taking any questions on Creationism.

 

[Orogeny]

Did God do it?

 

[BananaSlug]

Did God do it?

Yes God did in fact do it. However, science cannot test for God because he exists outside the realm of the natural.

 

[AV1611VET]

Considering I used to be a YEC, I am taking any questions on Creationism.

From which standpoint? your current one or YEC?

 

[BananaSlug]

From which standpoint? your current one or YEC?

My old YEC standpoint.

 

[Orogeny]

Yes God did in fact do it.

Is the case closed?

 

[AV1611VET]

My old YEC standpoint.

1. How old was Adam the day God created him?

2. Is the earth 4 days older than the stars?

 

[BananaSlug]

1. How old was Adam the day God created him?

He was sexually mature. Any specific age would be a stretch considering the Bible does not specifically say how old he was when he was created.

2. Is the earth 4 days older than the stars?

Yes. The earth was created on the 1st day and stars were created on the fourth day.

 

[BananaSlug]

Is the case closed?

No.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did the amount of mass/energy start out at zero, then raise to its current level over a six-day period?

 

[BananaSlug]

Did the amount of mass/energy start out at zero, then raise to its current level over a six-day period?

No. Since God existed there was already an infinite amount of mass/energy to begin with. Though God is supernatural there are many verses in the Bible that support God having mass/energy. Therefore, there was never a period of zero mass/energy.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. Since God existed there was already an infinite amount of mass/energy to begin with. Though God is supernatural there are many verses in the Bible that support God having mass/energy. Therefore, there was never a period of zero mass/energy.

Aren't you describing creatio ex deo, then?

 

[BananaSlug]

Aren't you describing creatio ex deo, then?

Essentially yes but since God cannot be detected through scientific means (unless he wants to be detected), it appears to be creatio ex nihilo. Technically the Bible does not specifically say there was nothing before creation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Essentially yes but since God cannot be detected through scientific means (unless he wants to be detected), it appears to be creatio ex nihilo. Technically the Bible does not specifically say there was nothing before creation.

So the YEC position is that there is no such thing as creatio ex nihilo?

The Latin phrase ex nihilo means "out of nothing". It often appears in conjunction with the concept of creation, as in creatio ex nihilo, meaning "creation out of nothing" — chiefly in philosophical or theological contexts, but also occurs in other fields.

In theology, the common phrase creatio ex nihilo ("creation out of nothing"), contrasts with creatio ex materia (creation out of some pre-existent, eternal matter) and with creatio ex deo (creation out of the being of God).

 

[BananaSlug]

So the YEC position is that there is no such thing as creatio ex nihilo?

You have to remember that God is omnipotent. A being with infinite energy cannot "add on" more energy. God spoke the universe into existence, using his infinite energy to create it. Since God's energy is infinite, none of his power was taken away during the creation process, thereby appearing to be creating from nothing.

 

[AV1611VET]

You have to remember that God is omnipotent. A being with infinite energy cannot "add on" more energy. God spoke the universe into existence, using his infinite energy to create it. Since God's energy is infinite, none of his power was taken away during the creation process, thereby appearing to be creating from nothing.

Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

I'm not schooled enough in YEC to disagree, but I'm going to anyway.

I don't think that's the consensus of opinion -- but I could be wrong.

 

[BananaSlug]

Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

I'm not schooled enough in YEC to disagree, but I'm going to anyway.

I don't think that's the consensus of opinion -- but I could be wrong.

The spirit is energy. God's spirit is unlimited and infinite.

Isaiah 40:28
Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.

 

[Orogeny]

He's not even a YEC, but BS's YEC theories are a lot more coherent than most. That makes me pretty sad for YECs.

 

[BananaSlug]

So... no other questions? I was having fun!