Tagalog?

[ChristsSoldier115]

Try Xhosa from South Africa...

linguistics are a slight side passion of mine. I never pursue it enough academically. You can learn a lot about a person and a people just from their language.

The difference in grammar and pronunciation might seem unimportant to fragile, but it is to me. I am not filipino so I am still confused on much cultural things in the country. Language can bridge the gap at least in that regard.

 

[faroukfarouk]

linguistics are a slight side passion of mine. I never pursue it enough academically. You can learn a lot about a person and a people just from their language.

The difference in grammar and pronunciation might seem unimportant to fragile, but it is to me. I am not filipino so I am still confused on much cultural things in the country. Language can bridge the gap at least in that regard.

You're American, right? (Ohio)

The Philippines is a very interesting country linguistically.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

You're American, right? (Ohio)

The Philippines is a very interesting country linguistically.

Most cultural ignorance is because of my bad teachers and seem to vary between islands.

Much like how people in texas do things differently than people in new york.

I was taught in Bohol that if I meet an person eldely to me to bring their hand to my forehead, but apparently this isn't universal, as they don't seem to do it on midanao.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Most cultural ignorance is because of my bad teachers and seem to vary between islands.

Much like how people in texas do things differently than people in new york.

I was taught in Bohol that if I meet an person eldely to me to bring their hand to my forehead, but apparently this isn't universal, as they don't seem to do it on midanao.

Sometimes there is a thin dividing line between language and culture.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Sometimes there is a thin dividing line between language and culture.

So true, you can tell a lot about a people in how they communicate.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

So far my hunting for mission works to join.. I've only come across this on the internet: Mission Ministries Philippines | A sustainable church in every slum To me this is the ideal group to probably join in the future for a person weak in Tagalog until I picked it up better. it is right near Manila and right in the middle of poverty. Everything else seems to be just short term there-for-a-week thing. If anyone's goog-fu skills are superior to mine please let me know if you know of better groups to inquire about joining. Heck, If you know whether these guys are good or not would also be welcome.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

These grammar concepts of focus and marker words are so hard for my brain to wrap around.

 

[vanillaicecream]

These grammar concepts of focus and marker words are so hard for my brain to wrap around.

I'm a filipina, I'd love to help, but..how?
hahaha
what have you learned about our language so far?

 

[vanillaicecream]

Tagalog is a kind of standard version of the language, isn't it?

Not really. There are more Cebuano-Speaking Filipinos compared to tagalog. Although tagalog is what's being taught in Elementary school. This is because, our national capital region is in the tagalog speaking area of our archipelago.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

I'm a filipina, I'd love to help, but..how?
hahaha
what have you learned about our language so far?

right now I do not understand the differences between

Ano ang ginagawa mo?

and

Ano ang ginagawa ninyo?

According to rosetta stone software it is somehow different but goggle translate translates both to the same phrase. context of the phrases?

 

[vanillaicecream]

right now I do not understand the differences between

Ano ang ginagawa mo?

and

Ano ang ginagawa ninyo?

According to rosetta stone software it is somehow different but goggle translate translates both to the same phrase. context of the phrases?

Sorry for the late reply.

"Ano ang ginagawa mo?" = What are you doing?
"Ano ang ginagawa ninyo?" = What are you guys doing?

When addressing someone:
Mo - for one person
Ninyo - more than one person

Hope that helped.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I like this kind of thread!

 

[vanillaicecream]

Magangdang just means "good" so It might be different translation in the vein of a NIV being different than a ESV. I think I'll download all three and see.

Maganda means beautiful or good.

Maganda ang umaga = The morning is beautiful/good

maganda + ang = Magandang -> combined

So, "magandang umaga" = good morning!


Magandang Balita or Maganda ang balita = The News is Good or The Good News

 

[faroukfarouk]

Maganda means beautiful or good.

Maganda ang umaga = The morning is beautiful/good

maganda + ang = Magandang -> combined

So, "magandang umaga" = good morning!


Magandang Balita or Maganda ang balita = The News is Good or The Good News

I see there is no definite article, either ('the'). Interesting...

 

[vanillaicecream]

I see there is no definite article, either ('the'). Interesting...

The = Ang

Ang magandang balita = The Good News

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Sorry for the late reply.

"Ano ang ginagawa mo?" = What are you doing?
"Ano ang ginagawa ninyo?" = What are you guys doing?

When addressing someone:
Mo - for one person
Ninyo - more than one person

Hope that helped.

Well I figured that out the next day befriending a filipino on fb. I think she either has bad internet, or is mad at me because I have no interest in her beyond friendship and just ask language questions most of the time. I get a response maybe every two weeks.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Maganda means beautiful or good.

Maganda ang umaga = The morning is beautiful/good

maganda + ang = Magandang -> combined

So, "magandang umaga" = good morning!


Magandang Balita or Maganda ang balita = The News is Good or The Good News

I figured out that last part a couple days ago. Rosetta stone teaching methods with the pictures drive me crazy.

umaga = morning
hapon = afternoon
gabi = evening
madaling araw= ...night??

those last two confuse me because night time and evening means the same thing for me.

The weekdays are a bit confusing to me. linggo is sunday.. but it also means the week? I guess it is the context of the surrounding words to help determine it.

Those web sites that explain the basics is nice, but the languages affixes are still troubling for me to figure out just yet. It seems like you can through it all around the root word, Whereas english has fixed suffixes and prefixes.

I would ask more questions on words but right now I cannot think of any, but I definitely confuse the words for the seasons. talamig meaning winter being the only one I can easily know.

 

[vanillaicecream]

I figured out that last part a couple days ago. Rosetta stone teaching methods with the pictures drive me crazy.

umaga = morning
hapon = afternoon
gabi = evening
madaling araw= ...night??

those last two confuse me because night time and evening means the same thing for me.

The weekdays are a bit confusing to me. linggo is sunday.. but it also means the week? I guess it is the context of the surrounding words to help determine it.

Those web sites that explain the basics is nice, but the languages affixes are still troubling for me to figure out just yet. It seems like you can through it all around the root word, Whereas english has fixed suffixes and prefixes.



I would ask more questions on words but right now I cannot think of any, but I definitely confuse the words for the seasons. talamig meaning winter being the only one I can easily know.

Araw =sun or day
E.g. isang araw =one day
Araw ng kalayaan = day of freedom
Sumikat ang araw = the sun has risen

Madali= early or fast (depends on use)

Madali ang araw or Madaling araw =Early morning

Taglamig =winter season - lamig means cold
Tagulan =rainy seaon - ulan means rain
Tagaraw= sunny season/summer -araw means sun

Linggo can refer to a whole week or Sunday
Lunes -monday
Martes -tuesday
Miyerkules -wednesday
Huwebes -thursday
Biyernes -friday
Sabado -saturday

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Araw =sun or day
E.g. isang araw =one day
Araw ng kalayaan = day of freedom
Sumikat ang araw = the sun has risen

Madali= early or fast (depends on use)

Madali ang araw or Madaling araw =Early morning

Taglamig =winter season - lamig means cold
Tagulan =rainy seaon - ulan means rain
Tagaraw= sunny season/summer -araw means sun

Linggo can refer to a whole week or Sunday
Lunes -monday
Martes -tuesday
Miyerkules -wednesday
Huwebes -thursday
Biyernes -friday
Sabado -saturday

Now if only I can get that pronunciation right for words. Just about every word with "ng" gets me.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Actually I think I pronounce most of the worlds ok, but Rosetta stone is just picky.

Saan = where
Kailan = when

?
What is the word for why?
I'm still trying to understand the basics.

Saan ka magulang = Where are your parents? or do I say
Saan mo magulang?

ka na = are you ..?

nagugutom ka na? = are you hungry? Can I use ka na for other things?
Malamig ka na?