surrender

[Holy Roller]

Love is a human concept.

Cats and dogs don't love; when a mother cat or dog sees predators it's not love; it's something else.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

God love's you any how.
Have you ever experienced in life. A desire for something like in a job to acquired high stature only to get it and that it wasn't what you imagined or anticipated.Be careful of what you as for and long with that being said God will not be mocked in the end.Lord of lord king of kings. Don't give him what he asks for God for he doesn't know what he needs.

Sorry, what?

In terms of the job example, I think you're underestimating my goals in life. Not having s god doesn't mean your goals are superficial. My goals involve helping people, changing the world and continuing to experience Love.Things like jobs are incidental...if I'm working for a good cause and making enough to provide a comfortable life for the husband and kids I hope to eventually have, then promotions and stuff are meaningless.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Cats and dogs don't love; when a mother cat or dog sees predators it's not love; it's something else.

Yep, you're right there.

 

[allhart]

Sorry, what?

In terms of the job example, I think you're underestimating my goals in life. Not having s god doesn't mean your goals are superficial. My goals involve helping people, changing the world and continuing to experience Love.Things like jobs are incidental...if I'm working for a good cause and making enough to provide a comfortable life for the husband and kids I hope to eventually have, then promotions and stuff are meaningless.

The old saying of wisdom. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it.The knowledge between understanding and experience. Not truly understanding the cost before the experience....

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

The old saying of wisdom. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it.The knowledge between understanding and experience. Not truly understanding the cost before the experience....

I'd rather learn from experience than adhere to any absolutist dogma.

 

[SAPguy]

Firstly that's flat out insulting, If you enter a debate expect to have people challenge your beliefs, but do not be as low as to insult another un-involved religion. In the hope that a follower of it won't be their to defend it.

Secondly we have more proof for the exhistance of the origonal buddha than that of christ, we also know that christ when travelling in the east met a buddha and discussed philosiphy with him. Care to disprove your messiah?

Thirdly it's not about believing in buddha, it's just a man giving his thoughts on life, it's up to you to decide whether they are accurate or not. It's not really about belief.

And finally. I suffered from bi-polar and Uni polar deppression as a result of my conversion to christianity (nearly committing suicide at my conditions height), it was buddhism that got me through that time, and it continious to do so, to this very day.

Define happiness. Then we can talk about whether or not buddhism has helped me.

I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm simply saying that whatever you choose to believe and follow will ultimately require you to make some changes to your lifestyle, therefore giving up control because of SOMETHING or someone.

If the teachings of Buddha click for you and help you live your life, then I'm happy that you have found something to put your energy behind and follow.

The question was why do people not want to surrender. My answer is that people are selfish, controlling beings and surrendering any amount of control to anything is hard for most people.

The discussion had nothing to do with proving or disproving the existence of God .

 

[allhart]

I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm simply saying that whatever you choose to believe and follow will ultimately require you to make some changes to your lifestyle, therefore giving up control because of SOMETHING or someone.

If the teachings of Buddha click for you and help you live your life, then I'm happy that you have found something to put your energy behind and follow.

The question was why do people not want to surrender. My answer is that people are selfish, controlling beings and surrendering any amount of control to anything is hard for most people.

The discussion had nothing to do with proving or disproving the existence of God .

If you had the ability to change the world! What would you, so call fix? A thought, Jesus came to the world with that ability and choose not to change your world in famine,poverty,suppression. Just as the the Pharisees where complaining about Jesus sitting with those in sin. He didn't come just for change or to change the ability to sin.Your freedom to surrender comes with effect of our sin, So what could you change? In a world of freedom to choose.

 

[allhart]

If you had the ability to change the world! What would you, so call fix? A thought, Jesus came to the world with that ability and choose not to change your world in famine,poverty,suppression. Just as the the Pharisees where complaining about Jesus sitting with those in sin. He didn't come just for change or to change the ability to sin.Your freedom to surrender comes with effect of our sin, So what could you change? In a world of freedom to choose.

No one cares to look into real issues, but to have superficial conversation. Going no where.

 

[Sojourner1]

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[tapero]

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